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That's exactly what happened to me! I was just vibin through the Zone and suddenly "beep" and the message saying "Regenerator (1) was removed from your inventory". And I was like what?
1) There is no chance that during such a short period scientists (with destroyed Ward and crippled Malachite) could regain control over Duga and proceed with experiments.
2) The anomaly appearing in the room near the Alfa artrfact during the experiment is exactly the same as the one apperaing in the Skif's appartment.
3) The Alfa used in the experiment is the same found by Skif (maybe it is the one, and the anomaly teleported it?)
Thus, in the cut-scene we might see the Second Caribbean experiment. And there is no Zone spreading accriss the world. Zone has definitely changed (birds, Fausts's speach etc. as mentioned above), but it is still not clear what has really changed with the zone.
BUT. What's with strider, what was really happening in the Kaimanov's house and what's with Kaimanov is really the question))) And we have ever met Kaimanov at all, but not Faust in disguise.
1000% agreed! this is what I was saying all over the socials, thank you for coming to same conclusion! :D
This ending timeline clearly shows that it takes place during the Second Caribbean experiment as we can see Skif at his home and watching his kitchen to burn down which is the game's intro cinematic. This happened BEFORE the events of the actual game. The only thing this end cinematic reveals is that such incidents happened all over the world not only in Skif's appartment and that will probably raise interest in even more companies and governments around the globe, but you can clearly see on the map in the experiment room that as the anomalous activity dots appear, they disappear moments after because it's NOT new Zones emerging all over the world, it's the Second Caribbean experiment shown from the POV of the scientists in the experiment room during the intro Skif cinematic, it can't be more clear that THIS is the case but some people will just believe what they want to believe.
But truth is, this ending is not Faust/Doctor ending. It's actually the Zone's ending. The only good ending really - THE canon ending and I bet DLCs will follow up on this ending if they will serve as sequels and not prequels.
It's the Zone's ending because we discover that C-Con couldn't ever exist in the first place, since Subtle Matter can't preserve human consciousness, so the entire C-Con experiment didn't work but Subtle Matter had a "copy" of the C-Con so all people involved around C-Con thought that it worked but all that really happened, that what people thought is C-Con was actually the Zone wearing C-Con coat. The Zone itself used Stalker program to create agents that would protect it, including Scar, Strelok and entire monolith faction. Faust was an exception, because he was a human controller and had free will but at the same time he was mentally connected to the Zone and he CHOSE to become the Zone's advocate, so he was like an agent, but from his own free will.
Skif was special, because in this ending, he was the only human who didn't want to do anything with the Zone or use it in any way, he just wanted to let it be, him entering the 8th pod allowed the Noosphere to get a full control of the Zone so it would be able to defend itself properly - that's why we see the Zone's perimeter with this huge amount of anomalies around in the ending cinematic.
As for the "Faust being the Doctor" reveal, I am still confused about that, but everything I said before still applies. Maybe we will find out in the DLCs.
I actually think that this ending makes no sense at all due to how the pods work, if you read the original thesis that Dr.Kaimanov wrote about the pods it's clear that the method that is used in game is actually the third one. This method consists of someone acting as a mediator to the Noosphere to translate data between the Noosphere and the scientists, in short the mediator has no actual power over the Noosphere, but is merely a mediator someone who translates the data. So unless Faust had a team of scientists conviniently placed and prepared for when Skif entered the pod it wouldn't be possible. Same as for Scar's and Strelok's endings wouldn't be possible according to the thesis written by Dr.Kaimanov. As for C-Consciousness, they are clearly around since they did brainwash Scar and implanted him the memories of a warden, and we know that the Ward came into existance in the zone sometime after CoP, so it's clear that the whole "Strelok killed the all the C-Consciousness scientists" is a facade.
Nah you are confused. Strelok shot the pods in the end of ShoC and that's the canon ending Stalker 2 is rolling with - as you can see in Stalker 2 ending, all 7 pods are shot and the corpses of scientists are inside.
Clear Sky wanted to preserve the Zone, study it and learn from it, but they knew that Strelok is C-Con agent brainwashed by Project Stalker (but actually the Zone's agent) who was tasked to make sure no one can ever hurt or control the Zone, so they hired Scar to kill him. But when Scar and Strelok finally met at CNPP, emission hit them, the Zone brainwashed Scar making him an agent and Strelok (apparently dead from emission was put on a death truck). Luckily Strelok suffered an amnesia and truck was struct so the Ghost found him and brought him to Sidorovic.
The amnesia reversed the brainwashing at the same time but in the end, Strelok did what the Zone wanted from the beginning - to kill C-Con scientists because they were taking a hold of the Zone via their connection to the Noosphere. But this wasn't enough, the Zone needed someone else to connect to the Noosphere who had pure intentions of freeing the Zone - that's Skif in this ending.
As for why Scar created the Spark and wanted the Shining Zone even though he was a brainwashed Zone agent, I have no idea, but he clearly somehow defied the Project Stalker programming as in Stalker 2, he clearly had his own plan in mind and not obeying the Zone's will. Maybe that's because he was also immune to emissions but it damaged his brain, so maybe he was partially a brainwashed agent, partially his old but corrupted self, I don't know.
In the end, we most certainly lack a lot of critical information here as people are coming up with their own theories and also find evidence to support them, but we can't all be right. :D
You misinterpreted the story. In Clear Sky, the Clear Sky faction, former members of C-Consciousness, know exactly how the zone operates because they created it. Scar on the other hand isn't hired by them to eliminate Strelok, he's instead asked by to figure out what is causing the emissions and that they believe the emissions are a form of protection against intruders (Which is true since it's members of C-Counscioussness that are causing the emitions) and Scar agrees to do so because he might not survive future emissions, because while he can survive an emission it's also damaging his nervious system and is slowly being killed by them (This is explained at the beginning of Clear Sky). "Strelok is C-Con agent brainwashed by Project Stalker (but actually the Zone's agent) who was tasked to make sure no one can ever hurt or control the Zone". Again this is made up lore, at the end of Clear Sky you can see Strelok being brainwashed from Scar's perspective who is also being brainwashed. " Strelok (apparently dead from emission was put on a death truck).". Again more made up lore, as I said before you can see Strelok and Scar being brainwashed at the ending of Clear Sky, also this wouldn't be possible since Clear Sky takes place in 2011 and Shadow of Chernobyl in May of 2012, and because the representative at the end of Shadow of Chernobyl explains that Death Trucks are how agents are transported to the Zone not the way to dispose of their bodies, this is also explained in Stalker 2. Also when Strelok was brainwashed he wasn't tasked with protecting the Zone, he was instead tasked with killing himself. And Ghost didn't find Strelok it was Red who did, Ghost was long dead by then, and the medic in Cordon in Stalker 2 will also confirm that it was Red if you ask him about the facility hidden in the Cordon. As for C-Consciousness, the pods didn't contain all members of C-Consciousness, this is even confirmed in Stalker 2 as the Doctor is an actual member of C-Consciousness, also Lebedev the leader of Clear Sky alongside some of the faction's members were all members of C-Consciousness, and one of the mechanics in Call of Prypiat was also a member and he's the one who worked on the Gauss Rifle.
this I mostly agree with, I didn't mean to say that CS hired Scar to kill Strelok from the beginning, but eventually that was Scar's task and that's also why Strelok has the PDA with a message "Kill Strelok" because that was last mission of Scar, it's the Scar's PDA the Strelok has
Even though that's what we see in the end of Clear Sky, Strelok couldn't be brainwashed there and then for the first time, because if he was, then he would be an active agent in Shadow of Chernobyl, acting without free will, but he DID had a free will, hence he couldn't be an agent anymore - the thing is, he was already an agent from before events of Clear Sky prequel, that's also the reason why the second brainwashing in the end of CS didn't work on him, what really happened in the end of CS is that Strelok was partially exposed to the emission which almost killed him and then when the truck was struct, he probably had a head injury and suffered an amnesia.
Whole next part you said is so wrong and you are contradicting yourself.
Firstly, Shoc starts shortly after CS ends... that's it
Secondly, how could trucks be used to import agents into the Zone when the Project Stalker complex itself is inside the Zone... and even IF what you said is true, then Shoc intro cinematic makes no sense because we know Shoc is after CS but Strelok was already in the Zone during CS so there is no point transporting him into the Zone again while he is ALREADY there. No, what happened is like I said, he was considered dead, so the government put him on a disposal truck, it was only the Zone's will I guess that the truck was struct, and Strelok's body was found by Red like you said and brought over to Sid - entire Shoc wouldn't even happen if that truck wasn't struck by lightening, which is a pure coincidence (Zone's doing in my opinion).
This is often misbelief among fans who didn't get the CS ending. Strelok was not tasked to kill himself... that in itself doesn't make sense, if C-Con wanted Strelok dead, Monolith would just kill him.
He had the PDA with task "Kill Strelok" because like I said above, that was the last thing Scar was told to do in the end of CS. And Strelok kept the PDA as a memento, and obviously he kept it all the way through to Stalker 2 and showed SAME pda to Skif. THAT'S what really happened there.
Again, no, they weren't part of the C-Con, they were part of the C-Con project, but the actual C-Con were only the 7 scientists that went in to the pods, thinking that the experiment of merging their brains would work and allow them to control the Zone by them existing inside Subtle Matter.
AND this is the fun part.
As we discover in Stalker 2, human consciousness can't really live in the Subtle Matter, it only stores a soulless imprint of one's brain iside of it that can't act on it's own.
So that entire plan of controlling the Zone through C-Con failed. Real C-Con never came to be, but since Subtle Matter stores a life-less copy of those who tried to connect to it, everyone involved in the C-Con project who tried to communicate with the C-Con via the visiograph (or whatever it was called) thought that it worked. BUT. IT. DID. NOT. What they were communicating with and receiving orders from was just a mindless, soulless copy of the C-Con scientists that went into the pods.
So what was really going on behind the C-Con, was the Zone itself acting in a self preservation mode. But since human prior experiments and ill intentions prevented the Zone to act freely, it chose to use the C-Con existence as a mirage and use project stalker to create Monolith that would protect it. Then only thing the Zone needed, was someone else to connect to the C-Con to reverse what they did and free the Zone - and that's what we see in the Doctor/Faust/Skif ending - Zone is free and it secured it's borders so that no one can get in or out finally getting full control.
This is the only version that makes sense to me.
Also, canon ending of ShoC is Strelok shooting down the C-Con pods so if Strelok was indeed a C-Con agent in SHoC (assuming the REAL C-Con - scientists living in the subtle matter actually existed) then firstly, why would they order him to kill himself (makes no sense for multiple reasons one of which I stated above) and why would they allow him to shoot their own pods if they were the ones who brainwashed him? Because they didn't, because real C-Con doesn't exist and it was all the Zone's machinations and the "Kill Strelok" PDA was taken off Scar.
I couldn't wrap my head around one thing: what the ♥♥♥♥ that ZOne is, how could she "talk" and persuade Faust to do what he's done? ANSWER ME, BIG BRAIN BOIZ
Interesting conclusion. Could you elaborate further? The endgame cutscene was just a flashforward, a vision of what Skif must do. What was all that game about then? What happened? Does this imply that all that was just a scheme to lure Skif into the Zone, and the actual game didn't even started?
That flashfoward only makes sense if you have THIS ending, it's not shown in any other ending. So yes, according to this ending, The Noosphere already shown Skif his "Destiny" through the Alpha when he touched it, but everything you did to get that ending indeed happened. It wasn't just an illusion and it wasn't a scheme. Like I said, the point was, Zone needed someone who willingly wanted to free the Zone. Skif does that in this ending, and only this one.
The creation of the Zone is a direct consequence of scientists doing the Carribean Experiment & interfering with the Noosphere. The Zone came to an existence the moment Doktor Kaymanov sabotaged the C-Con experiment, the Zone is basically an inter-dimensional defect, a side effect of scientists trying to take a hold of Noosphere and not knowing what they are dealing with.
Zone didn't have to persuade Faust.. Faust CHOSE to help the Zone. We know from Project Controller that Faust was a controller with a human soul and free will. His psychic abilities allowed him to connect directly to the Noosphere. He DECIDED to help the Zone as the Noosphere called to him. That "Come to me" or "Idi ku mene" line, is actually THE ZONE calling for help.
Faust was playing along with Noontide but he always planned to activate their Monolith brains once again from the very start. But in the end, he got corrupted, as him being a controller was still just a lab experiment and his brain must have eventually stop working properly, he got mad and Skif had to put him down. But he was always loyal servant of the Zone itself, because he CHOSE it. Same way as Skif chose to help the Zone in this ending.
You are off by a long shot when it comes to the lore of the Stalker series. To start off, no Shadow of Chernobyl doesn't take place shorty after the events of Clear Sky, again if you just look at the dates at the start Scar's and Strelok's PDAs, you will see that the events take about a year apart of each other. And no Strelok wasn't brainwashed before the events of Clear Sky, he was acting on his own free will until the ending of Clear Sky, and yes the Monolith did attack Strelok during both CS and SoC. Also Strelok's real task was indeed to kill himself (Again this is basic SoC lore as C-Cousciousness failed to kill him and expected him to comply with his mission). And no the government didn't try to dispose of Strelok's body by using the death trucks because the government has no control over the Zone nor C-Conciousness (Again basic Stalker lore which you seem to get wrong) and no the death trucks aren't used to dispose of dead bodies, they are used to transport agents from within the generators where they were brainwashed to the outer layers of the zone. And no C-Conciousness aren't just the scientists that are inside the pods, but also the rest of the scientists involved in project X, and even in Stalker 2 if you get the Ward's ending you will be tasked with obteining a list of agents of C-Consciousness and you will clearly see that Scar was implemented the memories of a warden and the Ward came after the events of CoP, which takes place a few weeks after the events in SoC, so there is clearly evidence that C-Consciousness is still operational, and like I said before there are several other characters in the series that were also part of C-Consciousness. "So that entire plan of controlling the Zone through C-Con failed. Real C-Con never came to be, but since Subtle Matter stores a life-less copy of those who tried to connect to it, everyone involved in the C-Con project who tried to communicate with the C-Con via the visiograph (or whatever it was called) thought that it worked". Again this is all just made up lore, yes C-Consciousness were successful in taping into the Noosphere and implanting their minds within it to control it (Again this is just basic Clear Sky lore), but weren't fully in control and that's how the zone was created, in the alternative ending of SoC if you choose the help C-Conciousness to control the zone, you will be wired inside the 8th pod by other scientists that are not inside the pods and C-Conciousness will obtain complete control of the zone, stopping all emisions and anomalies. "So what was really going on behind the C-Con, was the Zone itself acting in a self preservation mode. But since human prior experiments and ill intentions prevented the Zone to act freely, it chose to use the C-Con existence as a mirage and use project stalker to create Monolith that would protect it. Then only thing the Zone needed, was someone else to connect to the C-Con to reverse". Again this is completely made up, all emisions up until the ending of SoC are controlled emisions as they are caused by C-Conciousness in an attempt to prevent stalkers and soldiers from getting close to them, they are also the ones who created the brain scorcher and the Monolith (Again basic lore that you didn't read or understand). However the Monolith doesn't protect the Zone, it only protects the facilities it was made to protect and isn't aware of who the agents of C-Consciousness are (Again basic SoC lore, as they will attack Strelok on sight). Conclusion: Read the Stalker lore, watch it on youtube or just play the original trilogy and pay attention to what is being said before coming up with conclusions that contradict the lore of the Stalker series. Also as a side note don't take for granted the words that are coming out of the characters in Stalker 2 as it's well known that they are all trying to use Skif in their own ways and will lie to him about everything, Scar about the Shining Zone, Strelok and the Ward about C-Consciousness being eliminated even when there is evidence to the contrary, Dr. Kaimanov about subtle matter (Yes it's real since Strider can show you the events of the CNPP at the ending of SoC, which wouldn't be possible), etc.... The real truth lies somewhere in between all of that and will likely get explained with the future DLCs, which from what I've read will take place in the past and before the events of Stalker 2.