S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

View Stats:
Nochnoy Dec 17, 2024 @ 12:32am
5
2
2
Huge patch 1.0.4.
Every day I go to the site to report file changes in development. It is already the third week that they are actively changing something there. You can see that they are changing libraries and systems related to root mechanics, artificial intelligence and for some reason locations, as if they do not make a patch but a DLC.

It is very sad that the developers have almost no communication with the players from their side, we learn about their actions post facto because of what many people have time to many times to make themselves up, to think of unnecessary and disappointed in advance, which is currently a critical error, given the not very smooth release of the game.

So one developer only confirmed in a “comment!” on reddit that yes, they are preparing a big patch. (I think you already know and I don't need to look it up).

Reporting site:
https://steamdb.info/app/1643320/history/
< >
Showing 1-15 of 47 comments
Gynsu2000 Dec 17, 2024 @ 12:37am 
4
2
2
Give them a break, you'll have a patch note when it will be ready.
W@Rr!0R Dec 17, 2024 @ 12:39am 
i hope before 25 Dec 2024
W@Rr!0R Dec 17, 2024 @ 12:40am 
Originally posted by tolik.samoy:
Every day I go to the site to report file changes in development. It is already the third week that they are actively changing something there. You can see that they are changing libraries and systems related to root mechanics, artificial intelligence and for some reason locations, as if they do not make a patch but a DLC.

It is very sad that the developers have almost no communication with the players from their side, we learn about their actions post facto because of what many people have time to many times to make themselves up, to think of unnecessary and disappointed in advance, which is currently a critical error, given the not very smooth release of the game.

So one developer only confirmed in a “comment!” on reddit that yes, they are preparing a big patch. (I think you already know and I don't need to look it up).

Reporting site:
https://steamdb.info/app/1643320/history/

unable to understand the site . can you please explain man
W@Rr!0R Dec 17, 2024 @ 12:41am 
2
Originally posted by Gynsu2000:
Give them a break, you'll have a patch note when it will be ready.
True man :scarecrowface:
Nochnoy Dec 17, 2024 @ 1:17am 
Originally posted by W@Rr!0R:
Originally posted by tolik.samoy:
Every day I go to the site to report file changes in development. It is already the third week that they are actively changing something there. You can see that they are changing libraries and systems related to root mechanics, artificial intelligence and for some reason locations, as if they do not make a patch but a DLC.

It is very sad that the developers have almost no communication with the players from their side, we learn about their actions post facto because of what many people have time to many times to make themselves up, to think of unnecessary and disappointed in advance, which is currently a critical error, given the not very smooth release of the game.

So one developer only confirmed in a “comment!” on reddit that yes, they are preparing a big patch. (I think you already know and I don't need to look it up).

Reporting site:
https://steamdb.info/app/1643320/history/

unable to understand the site . can you please explain man
The site only shows reports on modified libraries (files) and one can only guess their values by name and size. There is no objective information there, except the fact that “something is being done for a long time, something big”.
Nochnoy Dec 17, 2024 @ 1:19am 
3
I'm just saddened by people who raise a lot of stink and it's so sad to see the comments of people who don't want to go deeper into understanding, don't realize the process in any way and only impatiently say their “I want” and “give” without looking at what's going on around them to expand their worldview and finally realize that not everything revolves around them and their desires.
The developers are aware of the problems, the technical bugs have already been fixed, and the game is available. They've been doing some big patch for 3 weeks now (I'm getting tired of waiting for it, but I check their reports every day). They released the game when it was most profitable to recoup the money invested in development (no one thinks games are going to be given away for free, right? ), and they themselves said that they expected the game to fail because of its technical state, so nobody thought about million-dollar purchases, which means that nobody deceived you, you deceived your own expectations, you bought the game knowing about its state from reviews (and if you didn't watch the reviews, it's your own fault for not wanting to understand anything and acting impulsively in life), and at the same time the PROGRAMMERS are newcomers. They're not a big, inexperienced company, they have only a few very old, weak by today's times games, they're the first to make an open world game on Unreal Engine 5, and you want what from them? Stars from the sky? Are you adequate?

For that matter, if they gave you a game just to screw you over - no one would be releasing patches right now, taking their millions of dollars in profits, or even saying thank you.

It's just people, not Jesus Christ. Inexperienced people in the European market. Who are dealing with that kind of money for the first time in their lives. And yes, the situation is like cyberpunk when people who don't really know much about modern game development try to make something breakthrough. If you don't have an understanding of human...
Baron01 Dec 17, 2024 @ 1:28am 
2
3
Well, huge patch is all nice and dandy but it is taking a long time. I have parked the game just before point of no return, one last mission before it is over. I did that to see what big changes, improvements and additions are added by next patch. I have already dumped a lot of time to Stalker 2, too much to be honest for how unpolished and incomplete it is. My patience and interest is running thinner every day the patch does not deploy. I waited over a week for them to deploy patches that fix post-SIRCAA game and it was a mixed result at best. I'm now waiting for nearly a week doing for patch 1.0.4 while the game is still bugy, I have several quest items stuck in my inventory, several quest bugged in journal and nothing else to do in the game.

Originally posted by tolik.samoy:
I'm just saddened by people who raise a lot of stink and it's so sad to see the comments of people who don't want to go deeper into understanding, ...
None of the text you wrote make any sense nor it is relevant to the issue. GSC is relatively experienced company. I can not say whether any, some or most of people who worked on original trilogy are still in the company but that is not relevant anyway. You do not build a modern game with amateurs you randomly pick on Facebook or Instagram, you hire or retain experienced developers for the job. Again, this is not relevant to me as a player who paid for a game and expect a product to work and contain features that were advertised.
If GSC was too ambitious in their undertaking and cut too much to chew, again this is their problem. Their developer processes should have guided them to resolve these issues or down-scale their production to size they can manage with given resources and time. Ultimately, it was GSC or their publisher who decided to release unfinished, unpolished and buggy game. Stalker 2 is not early access game, it was not sold as such.

I'm fed up by people defending GSC or the game telling me I should not be complaining about state of the game or that I should have more empathy with the developers. My empathy ends where their buggy product starts while we are more than 3 weeks from release and waiting for more patches to improve the game or add features that should have been in the game from the start.
Last edited by Baron01; Dec 17, 2024 @ 1:41am
Nochnoy Dec 17, 2024 @ 1:34am 
Originally posted by Baron01:
Well, huge patch is all nice and dandy but it is taking a long time. I have parked the game just before point of no return, one last mission before it is over. I did that to see what big changes, improvements and additions are added by next patch. I have already dumped a lot of time to Stalker 2, too much to be honest for how unpolished and incomplete it is. My patience and interest is running thinner every day the patch does not deploy. I waited over a week for them to deploy patches that fix post-SIRCAA game and it was a mixed result at best. I'm now waiting for nearly a week doing for patch 1.0.4 while the game is still bugy, I have several quest items stuck in my inventory, several quest bugged in journal and nothing else to do in the game.
I know what you mean. That's what I'm saying that communication between developers and players would at least somehow mitigate this bitter fact
Originally posted by tolik.samoy:
Every day I go to the site to report file changes in development. It is already the third week that they are actively changing something there. You can see that they are changing libraries and systems related to root mechanics, artificial intelligence and for some reason locations, as if they do not make a patch but a DLC.

Yes I think this will the first real patch, based on the feedback of players. The previous ones were stuff that was already planned and partially finished but could not be added into the game before release, so I expect a huge patch with many bug fixes and a lot of improvements.
Virgo Dec 17, 2024 @ 2:18am 
"green flesh" 👀
UnKn0wN Dec 17, 2024 @ 2:23am 
this big patch won´t do miracles, I think it was a mistake to mess with A-Life now, they should have fixed all the quests and post SIRCAA content first and then try to improve A-Life when the game was in a more stable and fixed state.
my plan was to at least complete a playthrough and then reinstall the game in a year or two to see A-life improvements and maybe the first DLC...
now I got the feeling it will be a mess for a long time and I might not even finish the game once in the near future.
hope I am wrong but you get the picture..
[UA]WhiteOverlord Dec 17, 2024 @ 2:40am 
There are letters in your words.
The only negative thing about this NEXT-BIG-PATCH is that it is big. Big patch need big time to test everything. Smaller patches could be released more often, maybe once a week. But let them cook. Maybe NEXT-BIG-PATCH will show us that we were wrong. Maybe it will improve the game in unimaginable way.

Also let's do not forget that game is huge and complicated. If GSC could develop it to this state I am sure they can fix those few thingas that are broken.
Chungo Beepis Dec 17, 2024 @ 2:46am 
yeah its been a while. Currently locked in the main quest that just crashes when i go near a concrete pillar. Super frustrating.
Mad Doog Dec 17, 2024 @ 2:47am 
Ok, paste the link on the Reddit thread
LeadHead Dec 17, 2024 @ 2:51am 
2
Originally posted by tolik.samoy:
I'm just saddened by people who raise a lot of stink and it's so sad to see the comments of people who don't want to go deeper into understanding, don't realize the process in any way and only impatiently say their “I want” and “give” without looking at what's going on around them to expand their worldview and finally realize that not everything revolves around them and their desires.

Sorry, but as much empathy, support and patience as I have for GSC, no development studio or publisher is your friend and you should never look at them as more than a transactional partner. You paid money for a product, it either matches the description on the box or it doesn't. If it doesn't, you reach out to their support and see if it can be resolved. That's the end of a customer's relationship with the developer.
If there are people who "don't want to go deeper", then you are completely way down deep somewhere and have completely lost the plot.

Originally posted by tolik.samoy:
Inexperienced people in the European market. Who are dealing with that kind of money for the first time in their lives.
I'm not sure if you've worded it correctly, but mismanagement of funds and the project is a feature now, wtf??
This new culture of "they really care, just wait and see", as if literally every studio is some indie basement project with budget of a lemonade stand, has to stop, it's idiotic and driving the industry into an endless unsustainable cycle - the money has already been taken from the customer, our part of the deal has been fulfilled. When is the publisher's part of the deal going to be fulfilled?
< >
Showing 1-15 of 47 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Dec 17, 2024 @ 12:32am
Posts: 47