Compiling Shaders Causes my CPU to Reach Abnormally High Temps

[Jet]

I'm using an i9-13900k with a tri-fan liquid cooling solution and an RTX 4090. Every time I sit through the shader compilation process to its end and start playing the game, my CPU usage will be around 50% and my temps will hover around 85 Celsius most of the time. Sometimes my CPU's temps will even get up to 99 Celsius! My 4090's fans will turn on a lot as well. The only other game that I've played that puts this much stress on my CPU and GPU is Cyberpunk 2077. This all didn't start happening until patch 1.1.3.

Last night I just installed the UE Tools mod. This mod allows me to completely skip the shader compilation process and now my CPU will stay at low temps and maintains around 15% usage. I don't even notice any stuttering like how people will say when you skip that process. My GPU's fans don't spin up anywhere near as much.

If anyone is having these issues then download UE Tools.

https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/64

[FilthyAnimal]

Change the termal paste on your cooler for CPU

[SilverX95]

is ya bios up to date?
newer bios's fix a lot of stuff with 13 & 14 gen intel with power and Temps and overvolting.
that and checking if the thermal paste needs Changing and if the sticker is removed from the cooler, cause ya never know.

[Jet]

Both solutions are something I need to do, but like I said after installing UE Tools my CPU and GPU haven't had heat issues after being able to skip shader compilation.

[Bandy]

Don't panic quite yeah, perhaps your system is a 'boutique' pre-bought gaming computer?
Open BIOS and set much more aggressive cooling fan curves, because it is likely the manufacturer was trying to make the system quieter at the expense of high operating temps

Resetting aggressive BIOS fan curves and your system will be louder but always run cooler and better buffered\prepared for those spikes in activity like shader comp.

You also need to know, AIO liquid coolers have a longer response lag between high CPU temps and the water pump reaction, and then fans ramping up to meet the radiator cooling needs. AIO coolers are gimmicky and in general gamers do not know how to manage them well. Not saying this is you, but sounds like it...

Also, as mentioned, never trust somebody else to apply TIM and seat your CPU. Read how to do this properly! Have heard stories about store bought computers with the plastic film still on chip face. Think about it, these grunts are likely getting paid minimum wage...

[Jet]

Originally posted by Bandy:

Don't panic quite yeah, perhaps your system is a 'boutique' pre-bought gaming computer?
Open BIOS and set much more aggressive cooling fan curves, because it is likely the manufacturer was trying to make the system quieter at the expense of high operating temps

Resetting aggressive BIOS fan curves and your system will be louder but always run cooler and better buffered\prepared for those spikes in activity like shader comp.

You also need to know, AIO liquid coolers have a big response lag between high temps and the pump and then fans ramping up to meet the cooling needs. AIO coolers are gimmicky and in general gamers do not know how to manage them. Not saying this is you, but sounds like it...

My PC is not pre-built. I've used this cooler since Feb. 2023. It's an ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360 ARGB. I haven't had temp issues AT ALL since 1.1.3 or any other game other than CP2077.

[Bandy]

Originally posted by Jet:

Originally posted by Bandy:

Don't panic quite yeah, perhaps your system is a 'boutique' pre-bought gaming computer?
Open BIOS and set much more aggressive cooling fan curves, because it is likely the manufacturer was trying to make the system quieter at the expense of high operating temps

Resetting aggressive BIOS fan curves and your system will be louder but always run cooler and better buffered\prepared for those spikes in activity like shader comp.

You also need to know, AIO liquid coolers have a big response lag between high temps and the pump and then fans ramping up to meet the cooling needs. AIO coolers are gimmicky and in general gamers do not know how to manage them. Not saying this is you, but sounds like it...

My PC is not pre-built. I've used this cooler since Feb. 2023. It's an ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360 ARGB. I haven't had temp issues AT ALL since 1.1.3 or any other game other than CP2077.

Read my post again your missing something... and I don't care about past experience with other games, you need to solve the problem facing you.

[Jet]

How do you know this is not a game-related problem? This happened after 1.1.3, not before it. No other game I've played has sent my CPU temps to the moon. You're also not reading MY posts. You are still assuming my PC is pre-built. I've built it myself. There is only one orientation to seat the CPU into the socket or the system won't even turn on. I applied the thermal paste myself the same way I always have since 2014.

Most importantly, ever since I installed UE Tools and skipped shader compilation, my CPU and GPU have stayed quiet when playing this game. If my problem isn't game-related, I would be getting high temps outside of gaming applications. That isn't the case.

[Arc]

Originally posted by Jet:

... I would be getting high temps outside of gaming applications...

You are comparing this to any other code compilation processes, right ?

Originally posted by Jet:

How do you know this is not a game-related problem? ....

Been seeing this for quite number of years, people are generally blaming the game when they get surprised just how much the shader compilation relies on hardware, since most clueless folks do not actually stress test their system under full load and use "but muh AIO" as a magic excuse.

These topics are in every single one game that has shader compilation or that uses their CPU for more than 50% on all threads.
vast majority is of course on Intel CPUs, since they are the least power efficient and most power hungry, especially with the factory out of spec OC on some motherboards pulling 300+W in boost.

[{1stCAV}HoXtyYy]

that means that you never use your cpu at high usage download cinabench and give a test there check you thermals if they reach same or higher

[MapleOmega]

Shader compilation on my 9800x3d went up to TJmax sometimes. Doing an undervolt on all cores -30 fixed the issue. Shader complilation is just very CPU intensive from what I understand.