S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

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trappist713 8 FEB a las 10:35 a. m.
SteamDB for STALKER2 is updated several times a day.
The next big patch is coming soon. Please stop whining.
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_Atr4Mør5 9 FEB a las 5:55 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por WINKOИER:
Publicado originalmente por _Atr4Mør5:
Yeah. Because you're the kind of person who sponsors poor quality releases.
Better go buy KCD2 and play in that perfect quality game + support your developer.
Daniel Vavra is a genius game designer.
that's just low effort bait, try harder :)
Not bait.
When KCD2 is perfect at release, Stalker 2 require 2 years of patching like it happened with CP2077. Exactly same s**t.

I've never seen such game that has so many soft locks.
Even after some patches.
You even can't end/done the Stalker 2, cuz 100% you will get soft lock somewhere.
Última edición por _Atr4Mør5; 9 FEB a las 5:57 a. m.
matiasapr30 9 FEB a las 6:10 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por _Atr4Mør5:
Big copium.
I mean the game was released in 2024 (lol) and still hasn't been patched enough to be played, and won't be patched because the garbage engine requires skilled software engineers on the dev team, and GSC doesn't have those employees.

UE5 is a prim trashy piece of trash where all the money was poured into the graphics for cinema and pre-rendered cinematics, not in usability of development, as it was in UE3 and UE4.

Literally no one has made a single good game on UE5 yet, without major manual changes to the engine.
<ejem>Tekken 8 is made on UE5 .... but they made the game for smahers boys, Kids
The Praetorian 9 FEB a las 6:47 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por _Atr4Mør5:
Publicado originalmente por The Praetorian:
В смысле прекратить ныть, ты гонишь что-ли? Деньги заплачены? Да. Релиз был? Да. Продукт за который были заплачены деньги где? В 3.143де!! Это не продукт, а чистое н@36@лово иди0т0в, корявая демка преальфы, а не продукт. Никто не ноет, это констатация фактов. И это рынок, не политика или нытьë. Это товарно-денежные отношения. По факту это лютый кидок, такой же как с A:CM от gearbox в своё время. Тебе ссут в глаза, но тебе всё божья роса.
Ну так и не**й предзаказ делать)))
Купил? Страдай.
Мог подождать 2 года и купить по скидке.
Да я как бы не страдаю, мне п0xyй, я ток вон в аномали гамма впервые зайти собрался, там всё на уровне. Эту же ср@нь ещё не ставил и не собираюсь ещё очень долго. Просто вымораживает сама постановка ситуации иди0т@ми. Вменяемые люди предъявляют вменяемые претензии, хомячки защищают откровенно вср@тый кусок г08на. Вокруг той же a:cm в своё время жижа бурлила прям кипяченая, а тут неее, это другое. Дасxy9ли🤷‍♂️
_Atr4Mør5 9 FEB a las 7:21 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por The Praetorian:
Publicado originalmente por _Atr4Mør5:
Ну так и не**й предзаказ делать)))
Купил? Страдай.
Мог подождать 2 года и купить по скидке.
Да я как бы не страдаю, мне п0xyй, я ток вон в аномали гамма впервые зайти собрался, там всё на уровне. Эту же ср@нь ещё не ставил и не собираюсь ещё очень долго. Просто вымораживает сама постановка ситуации иди0т@ми. Вменяемые люди предъявляют вменяемые претензии, хомячки защищают откровенно вср@тый кусок г08на. Вокруг той же a:cm в своё время жижа бурлила прям кипяченая, а тут неее, это другое. Дасxy9ли🤷‍♂️
Во, нормально. Гамма топ.
Так и вокруг КП2077 тоже ныли что игра забагованная.
И вокруг Ассасинс Кридов с Воч Догсами.
Но прекл в том что там игры хоть и были без оптимизации или с багами, но прохоидились.

Тут же, Софт/Хард лок почти каждого 5-го мейн-квеста сюжетной линии. Я такого не видел за свои 25 лет гейминга ни разу.
The Praetorian 9 FEB a las 7:34 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por _Atr4Mør5:
Publicado originalmente por The Praetorian:
Да я как бы не страдаю, мне п0xyй, я ток вон в аномали гамма впервые зайти собрался, там всё на уровне. Эту же ср@нь ещё не ставил и не собираюсь ещё очень долго. Просто вымораживает сама постановка ситуации иди0т@ми. Вменяемые люди предъявляют вменяемые претензии, хомячки защищают откровенно вср@тый кусок г08на. Вокруг той же a:cm в своё время жижа бурлила прям кипяченая, а тут неее, это другое. Дасxy9ли🤷‍♂️
Во, нормально. Гамма топ.
Так и вокруг КП2077 тоже ныли что игра забагованная.
И вокруг Ассасинс Кридов с Воч Догсами.
Но прекл в том что там игры хоть и были без оптимизации или с багами, но прохоидились.

Тут же, Софт/Хард лок почти каждого 5-го мейн-квеста сюжетной линии. Я такого не видел за свои 25 лет гейминга ни разу.
Ну я о том же. Ладно был бы лёгкий/средний "недопил", такие почти все уже лет десять к ряду. Можно было бы за уши как-то позицию защиты притянуть. Но тут неиграбельный пустой обмылок. И при этом самый яростно защищаемый. Награды 6л@ть выдают восторженные. Цирк. У меня тоже стажа уже за 30ку и ничего уже не удивляет, кроме того как отчаянно и молниеносно начали тупеть люди:steamfacepalm:
Jouchebag 10 FEB a las 3:26 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Skirnir:
Publicado originalmente por Jouchebag:

Nope.

I'll just leave this here..
https://www.xboxforums.com/

That's not an official Microsoft forum. The closest thing is the clunky Microsoft Answers pages which are terrible.

From what I can tell, there is rarely a significant difference between the Game Pass version and the Steam version for most games. I'm an avid user of both there usually isn't a version difference, or at least not for long. It is a point to keep in mind, it could be relevant in some situations.

Stalker 2 has been getting updates at the same time on Game Pass and Steam. The problems people mention as verifiable Steam owners are also in the Game Pass version.
KingDoogan 10 FEB a las 5:38 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por _Atr4Mør5:
Big copium.
I mean the game was released in 2024 (lol) and still hasn't been patched enough to be played, and won't be patched because the garbage engine requires skilled software engineers on the dev team, and GSC doesn't have those employees.

UE5 is a prim trashy piece of trash where all the money was poured into the graphics for cinema and pre-rendered cinematics, not in usability of development, as it was in UE3 and UE4.

Literally no one has made a single good game on UE5 yet, without major manual changes to the engine.

3.5 months ago and you all act like it's been a year :lunar2019deadpanpig:
Cadaver747 10 FEB a las 6:09 p. m. 
I would pay 5 bucks for proper Lighting Effects DLC.

Please, for the love of STALKER, remove that damned "Lumine" nonsense!

The grass plant models look adequate, but with the absent lighting and shadow effects, they seem bland. To be honest, it reminds me of Tomb Raider 1 (1996); every grassy element has the same fully bright palette in daylight. They all look the same and indistinguishable. The best way I could put it is that they look out of place, unnatural, and break all immersion.

Another example, which I mentioned in another thread: I saw two soldiers patrolling the village during nighttime, and the lights from their flashlights cast an almost perfect shadow from the fence to the nearest house. It looked fantastic!

So, the game knows how to operate with shadows correctly, or there are special places where the developers have forced proper shadow and lighting effects. I don't know which is worse.

In my opinion, proper lighting effects (+shadows) is the most important thing developers should implement, but they probably will never do so: every change in game code cost millions to implement nowadays in AAA games, and GSC should be hard at work with finishing their story DLCs.

The promised and heavily advertised A-Life 2.0 comes next. But it's another topic which was discussed thousands of times already.

Maybe we'll see a Director's Cut edition with everything fixed and changed for the better, but I'm afraid that's the best we could get. ;(
Última edición por Cadaver747; 10 FEB a las 6:11 p. m.
_Atr4Mør5 11 FEB a las 12:05 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por KingDoogan:
Publicado originalmente por _Atr4Mør5:
Big copium.
I mean the game was released in 2024 (lol) and still hasn't been patched enough to be played, and won't be patched because the garbage engine requires skilled software engineers on the dev team, and GSC doesn't have those employees.

UE5 is a prim trashy piece of trash where all the money was poured into the graphics for cinema and pre-rendered cinematics, not in usability of development, as it was in UE3 and UE4.

Literally no one has made a single good game on UE5 yet, without major manual changes to the engine.

3.5 months ago and you all act like it's been a year :lunar2019deadpanpig:
Yes. In 3 months, about 12 patches with 1000 fixes have been released for Baldurs Gate 3.
This is an example of productive work.
I realize that the release is difficult, I realize that after the release there was a new year and holidays.
But I also think that if devs realize what they're doing and they care about their audience, they will try to save their "child" and reputation.

Not these 3 patches that don't really change anything, the game came out worse than any other game in a while. Earlier one of the key developers said that “The situation like with CP2077 will not happen again”. It didn't?

The whole situation is ridiculous.

With all due respect to the developers who have to listen to discontent from players. I'm just saying how I see it despite the bigotry of the others.
Última edición por _Atr4Mør5; 11 FEB a las 12:07 a. m.
miChi 11 FEB a las 12:51 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por _Atr4Mør5:
Publicado originalmente por WINKOИER:
that's just low effort bait, try harder :)
Not bait.
When KCD2 is perfect at release, Stalker 2 require 2 years of patching like it happened with CP2077. Exactly same s**t.

I've never seen such game that has so many soft locks.
Even after some patches.
You even can't end/done the Stalker 2, cuz 100% you will get soft lock somewhere.
yeah but kingdom come is gay so...
more like kingdom c u m
Última edición por miChi; 11 FEB a las 12:51 a. m.
Fred 11 FEB a las 3:35 a. m. 
I think that GSC chose the wrong patch repair strategy,
which is more than frustrating for players.
Instead of big patches that fix everything at once and take 6-8 weeks to program,
you should first make small patches that fix the bugs in side quests and main quests for a zone.
I'm stuck with Waran with the PDA's that I have in my inventory and can't hand in?
I have now turned over every stone in every zone in 6 weeks,
all traders are trading green,
+ crafted with boxes after Jupiter and Prypyat, also works with patch 1.1.4,
have traded almost 5 million brands with bandit farming,
with armor you can make 40k-80K + brands per run.
But at the moment it's game over until the dump is patched.
Therefore small patches, zaton, chemical plant, garbage dump, so that things can move forward at all.
So everyone is waiting for the big patch that fixes 1000 bugs and adds 300 new ones. That doesn't really advance the game.
Let's not even talk about the botched Ai! In its current state,
the Ai can outsmart, regardless of whether 2x 6 NPCs appear, cover is everything,
run 1 bar of stamina, and eliminate everyone in peace using SniperMode with an AKM, Denipro with 1 shot.
Only this gets a bit boring.
Camille 11 FEB a las 10:43 a. m. 
I really wish there was a way to filter out all the negative comments on this Steam forum. It's a bit discouraging seeing so much of the "copium" and "it's all trash" stuff everywhere.

Back to the topic:
I am still really waiting for their patch with hardware Lumen, which they said they would release after the initial launch. It would help the game a lot. Hardware Lumen would eliminate all the awful noise and visual glitches. I mean, the first GPUs capable of using hardware ray tracing were the RTX 20 Series, which launched almost 8 years ago.

Why are we still taking even older GPUs from before 10 years into consideration?
Joikax 11 FEB a las 1:16 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por KingDoogan:
3.5 months ago and you all act like it's been a year :lunar2019deadpanpig:

It may aswell have been. Game released terribly undercooked and I don't see anyone around saying we couldn't have waited another year, even amongst the old fans.

Perhaps if they didn't release such a broken mess of a game and fail to demonstrate that they can (or are willing to) fix it in a reasonable amount of time things would have been different.
Need I remind you that the only big fix we got thus far was in regards to shader compiling and it wasn't even a fix, they just disabled it for the time being? 3.5 months gone by and nothing to show for it on such a frontline issue, or anything else besides some number tweaks in regards to mutants and quest rewards, by the way.

Perhaps if they hadn't sold editions with future DLCs included people wouldn't feel so angsty by the fact that the base game isn't anywhere near stable enough for it to receive enjoyable DLCs anytime soon.

... I could go on and on but alas, here we are, excusing an undercooked product because the shef couldn't be bothered making sure the dish was at least reasonably cooked before being served. Where else has that logic ever worked out?
Última edición por Joikax; 11 FEB a las 1:22 p. m.
Sparhawk122 11 FEB a las 1:32 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Joikax:
Publicado originalmente por KingDoogan:
3.5 months ago and you all act like it's been a year :lunar2019deadpanpig:

It may aswell have been. Game released terribly undercooked and I don't see anyone around saying we couldn't have waited another year, even amongst the old fans.

Perhaps if they didn't release such a broken mess of a game and fail to demonstrate that they can (or are willing to) fix it in a reasonable amount of time things would have been different.
Need I remind you that the only big fix we got thus far was in regards to shader compiling and it wasn't even a fix, they just disabled it for the time being? 3.5 months gone by and nothing to show for it on such a frontline issue, or anything else besides some number tweaks in regards to mutants and quest rewards, by the way.

Perhaps if they hadn't sold editions with future DLCs included people wouldn't feel so angsty by the fact that the base game isn't anywhere near stable enough for it to receive enjoyable DLCs anytime soon.

... I could go on and on but alas, here we are, excusing an undercooked product because the shef couldn't be bothered making sure the dish was at least reasonably cooked before being served. Where else has that logic ever worked out?

Due to the long wait. Can only assume the next patch will be decent in size.
prawns 11 FEB a las 5:00 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Joikax:
Publicado originalmente por KingDoogan:
3.5 months ago and you all act like it's been a year :lunar2019deadpanpig:

excusing an undercooked product because the shef [sic] couldn't be bothered making sure the dish was at least reasonably cooked before being served

I like my steak and seafood somewhere between rare and medium rare, depending on the cut/quality.

Better cut, better restaurant, and the more undercooked, the better it is.

Just saying.
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