so saiga 12 or ram 2

[iWhisky]

After several tests I can't decide between the two and if one is more efficient than the other.

[Baron01]

Originally posted by arestavo:

Originally posted by Rym DMF:

Used Saiga all the time up until found unique R2 Texan. Fully upgraided Texan do 2x dmg of Saiga. Only Downfall is slow reloading.

Weird. I upgraded my Texan and the damage is about the same as my upgraded Saiga.
Edit - here's a picture showing that: https://i.ibb.co/bv7bCGs/Saiga-v-Texan.jpg

That range on Texan! Saiga is just better weapon for general situations, you can use it for CQB or in open terrain. Try swapping from buckshots to slugs on Ram2 or SPAS-14 and see how your fight goes.
Also, the screenshot is likely misleading as I'm pretty sure weapon still deal different amount of damage even if they are shown as doing maximum damage. There is no way M701 bullet does the same damage as a shotgun blast or that RPG does that tiny damage it is indicated by its damage bar. It is about time someone datamines stat values for our gear so we can compare them properly.

Edit:
I search interwebs and there is actually datamined spreadsheet with stats. And all shotguns do same amount of damage per shot and deal more damage than sniper rifles. /facepalm

[Treusch]

As far as I'm concerned shotguns come into categories.

1. SAIGA
2. Not the SAIGA

I literally hear it in my head like the old school SEGA logo sound.

SAI-GAH!!!

You can get one really early by heading to Yantar as soon as you can leave the lesser Zone. There is one on a crane in a vehicle graveyard. You can get to it by jumping across a bunch of buses OR..... Standing below it and shooting it so it flies into the air and down to the ground.

You can use this map to find the location.

Cheers.

https://mapgenie.io/stalker-2-heart-of-chornobyl/maps/the-zone

[Sholomar]

I switched to the RAM because the game doesn't let you reverse caliber changes and I wanted to go back to buckshot from slug. I'm fine with both. They are both comparable to each other. It takes around 10 seconds to reload the RAM versus 4.5 seconds for the Saiga, however you can reload partial rounds with the RAM, whereas if you accidentally interrupt the reload process of the Saiga (something I found to happen with some frequency with my assault rifles) by say sprinting, you have to start the reload process over.

Both are fine. I wasn't going to spend $140K just to buy and upgrade another Saiga for buckshot use when I already had a RAM. In practicality it's rare I need to reload the shotgun in the middle of a fight, and the RAM carries 14 rounds, the Saiga 13 rounds with extended mag.

RAM with buckshot is for short range, the Rhino is for mid range, and the flustercluck is for weak enemies like dogs, humans at any range, and long range.

[DarkFire]

I enjoyed using both the Ram-2 and D-12 until I got a Margach D-12MT. No choice at all after that.

[Rym [DMF]]

I was using Saiga for a long period of game. But later i found unique R2 shotgun Texan. Fully upgraded it does 2x dmg of saiga... Only downfall of texan is slow reloading but now it's my favorite shotgun. only 2 shots at torso to bloodsucker... When bandits together at row 1 shot enough to do a triple kill... So... Saiga or R2 my choise is Saiga. But unique R2 far surpasses Saiga in dmg...

[Nite69]

does anyone know which tech upgrades the Saiga 12 cause I been everywhere in game, I can't find one that will

[VonDoom4]

Going Ram-2 as it is a shotgun machine gun to me, always emptying the entire mag

[Myztkl©-Kev]

according to the stats that were pulled, the Ram has more HP, more durability, does 10 more damage a shot and better range, but the DPS is 300 vs the saigas 1400. That being said, im currently slugging around the M701 (which is a beast) with an underbarrel shotgun (5 shot magazine fed) and im loving that combo more than just a stand-alone shot gun.

[Myztkl©-Kev]

Originally posted by Nite69:

does anyone know which tech upgrades the Saiga 12 cause I been everywhere in game, I can't find one that will

the town north of the red forest, cant remember what its called.

[Baron01]

Originally posted by Nite69:

does anyone know which tech upgrades the Saiga 12 cause I been everywhere in game, I can't find one that will

Technician in Yaniv station can upgrade all end-game weapons. Mind you there are still a few upgrades that are currently impossible to upgrade as no technicians will do them. This is most likely a bug.

[Nite69]

Thanks guys I just found it

Originally posted by Baron01:

Originally posted by Nite69:

does anyone know which tech upgrades the Saiga 12 cause I been everywhere in game, I can't find one that will

Technician in Yaniv station can upgrade all end-game weapons. Mind you there are still a few upgrades that are currently impossible to upgrade as no technicians will do them. This is most likely a bug.

even with blueprints they won't do them?

[Mr. Clark]

Ram.

[Coolverine]

Still using the Sledgehammer.

[Myztkl©-Kev]

Originally posted by Nite69:

Thanks guys I just found it

Originally posted by Baron01:

Technician in Yaniv station can upgrade all end-game weapons. Mind you there are still a few upgrades that are currently impossible to upgrade as no technicians will do them. This is most likely a bug.

even with blueprints they won't do them?

some stuff like the SSP-100 armor cant be upgraded anywhere, devs confirmed it is a bug.

[Myztkl©-Kev]

Originally posted by Coolverine:

Still using the Sledgehammer.

I was maining the sledgehammer until I got the m701 underbarrel shotgun, but the sledge (and the SPSA-14 in general) have the lowest durability out of all the shotguns.