High Latency (~60/120ms) and Stutterings issues STALKER 2

[Bastonix]

Colossals stutttering and 60/120ms latency while having a rtx 4070 / i7 5700X / 32go Memory / SSD HARDRIVE

It is possible that is my 60hz 1080p monitor wich causes thoses stuttering/fps drops ? ( I put VSYNC On )

NVIDIA PANNEL SETTINGS :
-Cache Shaders Memory : 100go
-Low Latency Mod : Ultra
-Energy Eco mod : On

BIOS SETTINGS :

-XMP Profile : Enabled
-CPU : -0.05 Undervolted

INGAME SETTING :

All on high except
- Field of view, Post processing on LOW
- Shaders, Visual Effects, Hair Texture, Antialyasing on MEDIUM

Upsacling : DLSS QUALITY ( FG OFF )


If someones with the same or less powerful system had found any fix, you'll be very welcomed !

[mooner]

I found disabling the Fullscreen optimizations in the properties of the exe file made a difference to the smoothness. Stalker2-Win64-Shipping.exe

[Bastonix]

Originally posted by NijimaXL:

Dont use the ultra latency as sometimes it actually increases latency. Use the one before the ultra latency setting.

Yes this is what I did a few days ago, it seems to be worse with Ultra mod, good advice

[Bastonix]

Originally posted by mooner:

I found disabling the Fullscreen optimizations in the properties of the exe file made a difference to the smoothness. Stalker2-Win64-Shipping.exe

Seriously ? Aha seems weird but i'll give it a try and say back if it made différence :)

[edwvee]

Originally posted by Orochimaru:

Originally posted by edwvee:

How did you measure latency? By the way I have almost the same rig and I play 80fps lock + framegen to make the game not so annoying in the villages. I feel a bigger delay, but however the game is much smoother and not so disappointing in "cities".

Ok thanks for thoses explanation for XMP
I now understand why it keeped crashing when I tried to overclock my CPU while XMP enabled.. aha

My Latency is measured by the NVIDIA Overlay, it shows me % of GPU & CPU us, a FPS meter and the ammount of Latency

I tried Frame Gen, it has increased my FPS but when I choose DLSS Frame Gen it disabling V-Sync and if I cap my FPS it still screen tearing.
Then it put an huge delay wich is increased by my already high Latency, so the delay gives me a motion sickness feeling and headaches..
Finaly if it increased my fps, its not stabilizing them so its stuttering the same as without FG.

Try to add some voltage after enabling XMP profile, like 0.1-0.3. This could help and should be safe enough.

[edwvee]

Originally posted by Orochimaru:

Originally posted by Orochimaru:

Ok thanks for thoses explanation for XMP
I now understand why it keeped crashing when I tried to overclock my CPU while XMP enabled.. aha

My Latency is measured by the NVIDIA Overlay, it shows me % of GPU & CPU us, a FPS meter and the ammount of Latency

Originally posted by Mac:

its not your monitor - i'm using a crappy cheap dell 22inch 1080p 60hz monitor.

My system:
Nvidia 4060, entry level.
16GB ram
i7 9700 8 core 0 threads

My settings:
All on high
DLSS - Quality
Framegen (Reflex is on by default - its grayed out, but thats to prevent you turning it off)
Vsync is of by default when using framegen

My trick:
Nvidia control panel
Custom profile: Stalker 2
Max Frame Rate: 65

Setting max framerate forces framegen to ONLY gen extra frames when it start dipping below 65fps.
This 65 is also to allow for a little garbage frames to keep the gpu stable whilst the cpu is processing the frames.
65 is also set to keep the screen tearing down to compensate for not using vsync.

Because the max frames are 65, for each frame generated it adds next to no latency for input.

May I ask you if you Enabled Motion Blur and if your Field of View, Foliage Quality and Post Traitement setting is high too?

And then, i'm unfortunely forced to use Vsync cause even if I cap my FPS to stabilize them, it keeps Screen Tearing without VSync..

I wanna know what kind of charms let your similar monitor without screen Tearing while disabling Vsync ahaha

I play everything maxed out, but maybe less grass could give me more stable FPS.
PS: Buy at least 144Hz monitor and screen tearing won't be so noticeable.

[Bastonix]

Originally posted by edwvee:

Originally posted by Orochimaru:

May I ask you if you Enabled Motion Blur and if your Field of View, Foliage Quality and Post Traitement setting is high too?

And then, i'm unfortunely forced to use Vsync cause even if I cap my FPS to stabilize them, it keeps Screen Tearing without VSync..

I wanna know what kind of charms let your similar monitor without screen Tearing while disabling Vsync ahaha

I play everything maxed out, but maybe less grass could give me more stable FPS.
PS: Buy at least 144Hz monitor and screen tearing won't be so noticeable.

And what about Blur Effect, you maxed out too ?

Yea i know, my girlfriend Bought me a 32" QLED 2650x1440p HDR included but without G-Sync.
But she absolutly want me to wait until Xmas lmao

[Bastonix]

Update : disabling XMP profile and GPU Schuedule makes DLSS FG unusable, the option is totaly greyed..

[Livyatan]

tldr vsync will add latency, but you need it if screen tearing, I have it on, it's not a deal breaker but I have enabled it through nvidia control panel not ingame.
Framegen adds loads of latency. That's the opposite of help.

Any luck? What settings are you running.

I have a pretty good rig, but I did mod it with... https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/7

I'm sure it's been recommended already.

I've read somewhere that vsync in game is awful. So I enabled it in my nvidia control panel as a global setting. With that I set the frame limit in game as off and that over all helped with the stutter.

I haven't monitored my latency, but I only really notice latency issues when framegen is on (framegen naturally adds a lot of latency) and that's only really what the reflex stuff is for, to counter act that. Of which... I just awful with it on or not. Framegen, in general is pretty awful if you are not at least running a stable 60fps. If you cannot achieve that, I cannot recommend framegen.

You deffo want your xmp profiles on. Don't really see why slowing down your ram will help.

I have a 4060ti 16gb, 32gb ram, 5800x3d and a decent ssd. So... I don't know how that compares, but this game is crazy demanding and my computer doesn't run it flawlessly or anything.

Settings wise. I'm running at 1080p, running all settings at high and motion blur is set to 0% (It costs fps, and its an awful feature, I don't want to add blur to the game?)
Solid fps up until towns. :P Which dips like 5-20fps depending on the npcs, I've learnt to deal with thanks to Dragons Dogma, I've heard lowering the hair quality down to low helps. But I feel that's more for people with gpu limitations, I don't really see how that's gonna help the cpu.

Edit: Power settings on pcs... Honestly eco mode is gonna do the opposite of help too. You want to set it at its default.

If there's anything else you've fiddled with your computer? I would generally try to revert to default tbh. My computer is pretty much default and I haven't really come across any extreme problems with this wave of "modern games"

Also. This sounds super silly, but have you updated your gpu driver? :)

Edit 2: Anything to help, it might be worth disabling any overlays you have working in the background, ie steam overlay, nvidia overlay.

Sometimes stuttering can be actually caused by you actually monitoring how your computer is doing whilst playing. So if you're using afterburner or some crazy indepth performance monitoring thing, the more pc will struggle doing it's job. I noticed this whilst monitoring things with a new gpu, I was checking out loads of things ingame to the point where monitoring was actually cause micro stutters!

All I have running tbf, is steams overlay system, and a barebones fps check enabled from steam, of which you sadly need the steam overlay stuff on to work... At least I believe.

[Bastonix]

Originally posted by Livyatan:

tldr vsync will add latency, but you need it if screen tearing, I have it on, it's not a deal breaker but I have enabled it through nvidia control panel not ingame.
Framegen adds loads of latency. That's the opposite of help.

Any luck? What settings are you running.

I have a pretty good rig, but I did mod it with... https://www.nexusmods.com/stalker2heartofchornobyl/mods/7

I'm sure it's been recommended already.

I've read somewhere that vsync in game is awful. So I enabled it in my nvidia control panel as a global setting. With that I set the frame limit in game as off and that over all helped with the stutter.

I haven't monitored my latency, but I only really notice latency issues when framegen is on (framegen naturally adds a lot of latency) and that's only really what the reflex stuff is for, to counter act that. Of which... I just awful with it on or not. Framegen, in general is pretty awful if you are not at least running a stable 60fps. If you cannot achieve that, I cannot recommend framegen.

You deffo want your xmp profiles on. Don't really see why slowing down your ram will help.

I have a 4060ti 16gb, 32gb ram, 5800x3d and a decent ssd. So... I don't know how that compares, but this game is crazy demanding and my computer doesn't run it flawlessly or anything.

Settings wise. I'm running at 1080p, running all settings at high and motion blur is set to 0% (It costs fps, and its an awful feature, I don't want to add blur to the game?)
Solid fps up until towns. :P Which dips like 5-20fps depending on the npcs, I've learnt to deal with thanks to Dragons Dogma, I've heard lowering the hair quality down to low helps. But I feel that's more for people with gpu limitations, I don't really see how that's gonna help the cpu.

Edit: Power settings on pcs... Honestly eco mode is gonna do the opposite of help too. You want to set it at its default.

If there's anything else you've fiddled with your computer? I would generally try to revert to default tbh. My computer is pretty much default and I haven't really come across any extreme problems with this wave of "modern games"

Also. This sounds super silly, but have you updated your gpu driver? :)

Edit 2: Anything to help, it might be worth disabling any overlays you have working in the background, ie steam overlay, nvidia overlay.

Sometimes stuttering can be actually caused by you actually monitoring how your computer is doing whilst playing. So if you're using afterburner or some crazy indepth performance monitoring thing, the more pc will struggle doing it's job. I noticed this whilst monitoring things with a new gpu, I was checking out loads of things ingame to the point where monitoring was actually cause micro stutters!

All I have running tbf, is steams overlay system, and a barebones fps check enabled from steam, of which you sadly need the steam overlay stuff on to work... At least I believe.

I dont know how can you have thoses perfs..

I've already tested all form of Vsync ( fast, adaptative, in game, no vsync but FPS capped ) but its always Stutters with all form of Vsync except fast Vsync wich make the same screen Tearing as I turn vsync off..

Maybe its all about this mod.. i'll check out

In terms of Overlays, I even stop my NVIDIA fps measuring and my windows defender lmao

Finaly Latency isnt the real problem, caus even when i enable FG, I cannot see a real difference of delay ( before updtates i had delay its weird )
Its just my NVIDIA overlay that says 60/120ms even in the main menu but I think its kinda broken because it show 0 ms of Latency all the time in other games like Stalker Gamma.

Yea its more a stuttering problem

EDIT : Even your Foliage quality is on high ?

[Wozherd$🐧]

Originally posted by Orochimaru:

Originally posted by Wozherd$🐧:

I had GPU scheduling off for some reason on my windows machine, Gonna just turn on and see if it helps.

Don"t hesitate to come back saying if it worked ! :)

It hasn't improved performance, Might've made it worse or reset did it.

[Bastonix]

I ask myself, its maybe stupid but if finaly its the same problem as Gamma : disabling the core 0 of processor ?

[Bastonix]

Originally posted by edwvee:

Originally posted by Orochimaru:

Ok thanks for thoses explanation for XMP
I now understand why it keeped crashing when I tried to overclock my CPU while XMP enabled.. aha

My Latency is measured by the NVIDIA Overlay, it shows me % of GPU & CPU us, a FPS meter and the ammount of Latency

I tried Frame Gen, it has increased my FPS but when I choose DLSS Frame Gen it disabling V-Sync and if I cap my FPS it still screen tearing.
Then it put an huge delay wich is increased by my already high Latency, so the delay gives me a motion sickness feeling and headaches..
Finaly if it increased my fps, its not stabilizing them so its stuttering the same as without FG.

Try to add some voltage after enabling XMP profile, like 0.1-0.3. This could help and should be safe enough.

You mean overclocking ?

[Bastonix]

I can confirm that we have to wait until they optimize a lot before having a fluid gamplay

I realized this by playing other Upscaled or/and Frame Gen games like Ready Or Not and Metro Exodus, and damn thats look gorgeous..

You surely wanna tell me its all about the engine but look at Fortnite lmao
Its just a compromise between graphics and fluidity, we cant put photorealistic too much without struggling even rtx 4090s..

Another exemple to prove its not only the engine, just remember Dragon Dogma 2.
It has stutterings, blurry, pixellisation on long distance and foliages popping
And its not the same engine at all..

[Huhbibi]

I have a 4070 ti super with a i7-14700k overclocked at 5.4 GHz and have 60 - 80 input latency and have tried practically everything that I could think of to fix it.

[Bastonix]

Originally posted by Huhbibi:

I have a 4070 ti super with a i7-14700k overclocked at 5.4 GHz and have 60 - 80 input latency and have tried practically everything that I could think of to fix it.

Yeah me too.. I was thinking it was my Latency meter was broken cause I have 40/90ms playing Stalker 2 but 0 ms playing Métro Exodus.