80% Positive Reviews... Really?

[Grimtasy]

How does this game get 80% positive reviews with the current optimization issues, outright unstable engine with memory leaks and softlocking bugs that prevent completion of the main story without dev tools?

I don't understand. I ask genuinely, because as a Stalker fan I bought this game in Ultimate Edition and I really genuinely don't understand where 80% positive reviews come from. If this was a Bethesda game and they released a broken mess like this, the game would be downvoted to oblivion in a matter of hours.

If the game was marked as Early access - Early Beta and they charged maybe 30 bucks (or more for supporters, whatever), I could understand the review scores. But now? Full release? in this state? Come on.

[Soth]

Because the atmosphere, vibe, and ambition this game gives off from what is pretty much an indie dev is 100x better than milquetoast Bethesda cheese, or other AAA with shoehorned or obvious "modern audience" (is there even such a thing?) pandering aesthetics. It's just straight forward with some oldschool focused gameplay that hits a particular immersive sim / atmospheric / anomalous vibe. And within that niche we are hungry for games like this, so even if it needs some work, it deserves all the positive reviews. I put it in a similar category with Deus Ex, or Prey, niche immersive sim/ atmospheric exploration / RPGs, but for whatever reason they don't get enough support by the publishers because they don't sell like GTA5 or Call of Duty. I also put it in a similar category as Control and Alan Wake because it goes for a type of weird science fiction/horror/cosmic horror niche that I love and slwant more of. I don't mind it's not perfect, but I support it fully because I want more games in this vein and know that it will just take some time for them to sharpen it up. They have a roadmap of 2 expansions of content and multiplayer still, so I support that and want it to succeed.

[Dae]

Originally posted by Mulatto:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Exactly.

Why aren't you playing your game?

[Kröte]

Originally posted by Mulatto:

Originally posted by MudMux:

Ah yea, another one of skills issue (git gut , noob etc ... )

I guess you are the lucky one with no problems at all.
But still , please explain to me why the "gameplay loop" is solid ?

For me personally, the part of the main quest that I was allowed to play was very engaging.
But everything in between just feels boring. It feels empty.

Perhaps my expectations were simply too high.

I mean, what did you expect of a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game? If you expected CoD, you were gonna be sorely disappointed. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has always been about the exploration of the game world and surviving the harshness of The Zone.

Might just be that you are stupid.

And what do I need to survive in the Zone? Emptiness? Or enemies spawning 2 inches behind you? It can't be thirst as you only get hungry, and for hunger you have 200 breads and sausages in your inventory, and if you get attacked you just use some of your 300 medikits.

The only thing you have to survive is the unrealistic economy.
People acting like it's a hardcore survival game, maybe it was many years ago, now it's just a casual shooter.

[strongled]

Originally posted by Mulatto:

Originally posted by NHwu36:

he explained many broken aspects of the game now you want him to go into DETAIL on how or why he believes there broken is this going to change your mind at all? no.. then why keep defending a game the devs & tons of people are saying isnt working correctly.

He's getting upset that people are treating him like a hater when acting like a hater. If he wants people to take his criticisms of the game seriously, he should be able to, rather eloquently, explain what it is about the game that is bad.

Saying the game has "poor combat AI" is not a good reason when, in my experience, outside of a few instances of the AI bugging out, the AI seems perfectly fine. They use grenades to try and flush me out of hiding spots, they attempt to flank me when they can, and the overall experience is one that I greatly enjoy. What part of that is "poor"? I have no idea because he's not explained that.

Sorry that I expect criticisms to be more than "game bad. dun liek."

Sorry, he didn't add "generic AI swarm tactics" next to "bad AI" for your brain to activate.
You already know what the issues are, you're just lying.

[NHwu36]

Originally posted by Mulatto:

Originally posted by NHwu36:

he explained many broken aspects of the game now you want him to go into DETAIL on how or why he believes there broken is this going to change your mind at all? no.. then why keep defending a game the devs & tons of people are saying isnt working correctly.

He's getting upset that people are treating him like a hater when acting like a hater. If he wants people to take his criticisms of the game seriously, he should be able to, rather eloquently, explain what it is about the game that is bad.

Saying the game has "poor combat AI" is not a good reason when, in my experience, outside of a few instances of the AI bugging out, the AI seems perfectly fine. They use grenades to try and flush me out of hiding spots, they attempt to flank me when they can, and the overall experience is one that I greatly enjoy. What part of that is "poor"? I have no idea because he's not explained that.

Sorry that I expect criticisms to be more than "game bad. dun liek."

why does anybody here need to justify anything to you? what does anyone here owe you for an explanation? move on

[Zibigan]

Originally posted by Dae:

Originally posted by Mulatto:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Exactly.

Why aren't you playing your game?

They have to defend the company that doesn't care about them so they can get good boy points.

[Grimtasy]

Originally posted by Soth:

Because the atmosphere, vibe, and ambition this game gives off from what is pretty much an indie dev is 100x better than milquetoast Bethesda cheese, or other AAA with shoehorned or obvious pandering aesthetics. It's just straight forward with some oldschool focused gameplay that hits a particular immersive sim / atmospheric / anomalous vibe. And within that niche we are hungry for games like this, so even if it needs some work, it deserves all the positive reviews. I put it in a similar category with Deus Ex, or Prey, niche immersive sim/ atmospheric exploration / RPGs, but for whatever reason they don't get enough support by the publishers I don't mind it's not perfect, but I support it fully because I want more games with this scope, ambition and focused experience and know that it will just take some time for them to sharpen it up. They have a roadmap of 2 expansions of content and multiplayer still, so I fully support that and want it to succeed.

I agree 100% with your statement. But given the current state of the game, I kinda lost the momentum and realized how far we actually are from a true complete and satisfying Stalker 2 the way it was promised and the way so many of us pictured and waited so much and for so long.

[MudMux]

Originally posted by Mulatto:

Originally posted by MudMux:

Maybe I'm less intelligent than you, we'll never know.

For me it seems like you are trying to insult me, which invalidates all your posts ....
But lets get back to exploration and all that nice stuff you said.

For me personally, there is nothing to explore, cause everything is just empty. Find another loaf of bread ? Or more Vodka ? Thats not a solid "gameloop" (whatever gameloop even means)

I also never complained the game being to hard or to harsh. For me its just empty.

But If you like the game (and I bet you do) , thats fine.
Just imagine how much better it could be ....

How would you make the game better?

This is a personal preference:
I would like to see more life in the zone (it will be probably change if they fix (or add) the A Life system)
I know the zone should be harsh, every emission kills a lot of people and thats why is should be empty. But for gameplay sake its boring that way.

Obv. all necessary optimization steps

More lore , like the PDA entries we used to have.

[Mulatto]

Originally posted by Dae:

Originally posted by Mulatto:

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Exactly.

Why aren't you playing your game?

I just finished playing a few hours of it. I just like hopping on here to see all the people crying about the game lmao

[SaLaĐiN]

Originally posted by Mr_Purple:

Maybe because despite technical issues the game is *actually* good? I read top reviews and people fairly point those one out. I finished my first run and despite it's issues - had an absolute blast.

It is not, it is just the Far Cry in Stalker universe.

Plagued by bugs, bad performance and empty map.

[Mulatto]

Originally posted by Kröte:

Originally posted by Mulatto:

I mean, what did you expect of a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game? If you expected CoD, you were gonna be sorely disappointed. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. has always been about the exploration of the game world and surviving the harshness of The Zone.

Might just be that you are stupid.

And what do I need to survive in the Zone? Emptiness? Or enemies spawning 2 inches behind you? It can't be thirst as you only get hungry, and for hunger you have 200 breads and sausages in your inventory, and if you get attacked you just use some of your 300 medikits.

The only thing you have to survive is the unrealistic economy.
People acting like it's a hardcore survival game, maybe it was many years ago, now it's just a casual shooter.

Maybe play the game on a difficulty higher than Rookie

[Carlos Spicywiener]

Originally posted by Mulatto:

Originally posted by Zibigan:

They have to defend the company that doesn't care about them so they can get good boy points.

Ooh, you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ are REAL upset.

Shup soldier. Git back to work! So much trollin to be done!

[MudMux]

Originally posted by Mulatto:

Originally posted by Dae:

Exactly.

Why aren't you playing your game?

I just finished playing a few hours of it. I just like hopping on here to see all the people crying about the game lmao

Did you really enjoy the game as much as you thought you would?
Really no disrespect or anything. Just cuious. Maybe me expectations are just way to high

[fox]

Back to 80+ wghere it belongs

[NHwu36]

Originally posted by Mulatto:

Originally posted by Zibigan:

They have to defend the company that doesn't care about them so they can get good boy points.

Ooh, you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ are REAL upset.

...says the guy who came into a discussion to argue against everyone's opinions as if there not valid