Mutants are bullet sponges. WHY??

[Commissar Tordez]

is it a difficulty thing or is it across the board that boars eat 6 buckshot and bloodsuckers take 90 rounds of 5.45 before they get put down? cant wait for mods to make the damage levels what they SHOULD be.

[Kashra Fall]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von JackieTheDemon:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kashra Fall:

If only everyone had an endgame shotgun early in the game, you know, when they send a bloodsucker at you at every stash like they are the most common mutant in the franchise =D.

You can get the Saiga very early on. Just do the main quest until you find Nimble, he drops his Saiga during your fight with him, and does not pick it back up.

Wait, you're telling people to do the main quest in an open world game, that ends the game by doing the main quest O.o? You jest, right? Open world games are notorious for making people waste time doing random other events before the story events.

[JackieTheDemon]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kashra Fall:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von JackieTheDemon:

You can get the Saiga very early on. Just do the main quest until you find Nimble, he drops his Saiga during your fight with him, and does not pick it back up.

Wait, you're telling people to do the main quest in an open world game, that ends the game by doing the main quest O.o? You jest, right? Open world games are notorious for making people waste time doing random other events before the story events.

Well that's the only instance of the Saiga I've found so far and I'm 60 hours into the game.

and that was 40 hours ago.

[ChosenOne]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SilverX95:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von |Kron|Solo|:

Just play original S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - every mutant is bullet sponge, it's normal in this game, just shoot in head if you need more damage.

Play Escape from Tarkov if you want one tap gameplay.

they weren't this bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InCdul4bC9k
in SOC and COP i don't remember having to dump 20 rounds of buck into a bloodsucker

WOW, this looks so boring.. shooting 1000 rounds.. They should fix this huge bug

[wafflesandp3ssy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Legion:

I got into a fight with a horde of Fleshes and one of them took 5 near point blank shotgun shots to the face as it was charging to get put down....'iT's JuSt LiKe ThE oRiGiNaL gAmEs'....is it ♥♥♥♥ like the original games! I swear those that say this never played any of the previous 3 STALKER games.

Lmao I just checked one of my GAMMA videos and I put a bloodsucker down in 1 head shot...good luck doing that in this game! 1 shot Bloodsucker shot [streamable.com]

god u kiddies are cringe...GAMMA is not an original stalker game u muppet!only bloodsuckers hp are bugged rn,the other mutants all die as they should.comparing gamma to og stalker is like comparing arma 2 to dayz,they are wildly different games.

[Kashra Fall]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lots-of-fia:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Legion:

I got into a fight with a horde of Fleshes and one of them took 5 near point blank shotgun shots to the face as it was charging to get put down....'iT's JuSt LiKe ThE oRiGiNaL gAmEs'....is it ♥♥♥♥ like the original games! I swear those that say this never played any of the previous 3 STALKER games.

Lmao I just checked one of my GAMMA videos and I put a bloodsucker down in 1 head shot...good luck doing that in this game! 1 shot Bloodsucker shot [streamable.com]

god u kiddies are cringe...GAMMA is not an original stalker game u muppet!only bloodsuckers hp are bugged rn,the other mutants all die as they should.comparing gamma to og stalker is like comparing arma 2 to dayz,they are wildly different games.

Posted a comparison of all the stalker games (Not modded.) in comparison to S2. The bloodsuckers went down in less than a mag of AR, or 2 shots from a spas. Vs the bloodsucker at the start for the person was 3 and a half magazines of AR416. Granted, it isn't the best weapon and he was hip firing, those shots were hitting hence the red mist.

[wafflesandp3ssy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Legion:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kashra Fall:

I couldn't help but chuckle over the fact it took him nearly 4 mags on the first blood sucker in S2.

It's crazy how many players go on about how the mutants where the same in the previous 3 STALKER games when its quite ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clear they aren't...

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lots-of-fia:

dogs die in 1 shot lol...hit them in the head with a 5.45 and they go down.only the bloodsuckers seem abit bugged atm,the other mutants seem fine

Ahh yeah the fleshes (literally one of the weakest mutants in the previous 3 games) taking at least 4 plus near point blank shotgun shots to the face is the norm...are you playing on easy or something lol?

nah i just know how to play stalker lol,fully upgraded armor piercing weapons and bullets make a world of difference

[Legion]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lots-of-fia:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Legion:

I got into a fight with a horde of Fleshes and one of them took 5 near point blank shotgun shots to the face as it was charging to get put down....'iT's JuSt LiKe ThE oRiGiNaL gAmEs'....is it ♥♥♥♥ like the original games! I swear those that say this never played any of the previous 3 STALKER games.

Lmao I just checked one of my GAMMA videos and I put a bloodsucker down in 1 head shot...good luck doing that in this game! 1 shot Bloodsucker shot [streamable.com]

god u kiddies are cringe...GAMMA is not an original stalker game u muppet!only bloodsuckers hp are bugged rn,the other mutants all die as they should.comparing gamma to og stalker is like comparing arma 2 to dayz,they are wildly different games.

Ahh yeah Fleshes taking at least 4 point blank shotgun shots to the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ face in STALKER 2 is normal when they are literally one of the weakest of mutants in all the previous STALKER games that would go down in 2 maybe 3 shots at most! I honestly doubt you played the previous 3 games if you think the amount of damage mutants can take in this game is fine...

[wafflesandp3ssy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kashra Fall:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lots-of-fia:

god u kiddies are cringe...GAMMA is not an original stalker game u muppet!only bloodsuckers hp are bugged rn,the other mutants all die as they should.comparing gamma to og stalker is like comparing arma 2 to dayz,they are wildly different games.

Posted a comparison of all the stalker games (Not modded.) in comparison to S2. The bloodsuckers went down in less than a mag of AR, or 2 shots from a spas. Vs the bloodsucker at the start for the person was 3 and a half magazines of AR416. Granted, it isn't the best weapon and he was hip firing, those shots were hitting hence the red mist.

like i said b4 twice allready,the bloodsuckers are bugged rn yes.the other mutants ainth

[Kashra Fall]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lots-of-fia:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kashra Fall:

Posted a comparison of all the stalker games (Not modded.) in comparison to S2. The bloodsuckers went down in less than a mag of AR, or 2 shots from a spas. Vs the bloodsucker at the start for the person was 3 and a half magazines of AR416. Granted, it isn't the best weapon and he was hip firing, those shots were hitting hence the red mist.

like i said b4 twice allready,the bloodsuckers are bugged rn yes.the other mutants ainth

They aren't bugged though. The modders already discovered why they are surviving. They have 30 armor points. You have to outdo the armor with armor pen and people simply don't have that early game, or sometimes even late game depending on the weapon. A M860 wil slugs and pen increase, can drop them in 2-3 shots. How many people you think have those readily available to deal with sometimes 2 suckers at a time?

[wafflesandp3ssy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Legion:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lots-of-fia:

god u kiddies are cringe...GAMMA is not an original stalker game u muppet!only bloodsuckers hp are bugged rn,the other mutants all die as they should.comparing gamma to og stalker is like comparing arma 2 to dayz,they are wildly different games.

Ahh yeah Fleshes taking at least 4 point blank shotgun shots to the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ face in STALKER 2 is normal when they are literally one of the weakest of mutants in all the previous STALKER games that would go down in 2 maybe 3 shots at most! I honestly doubt you played the previous 3 games if you think the amount of damage mutants can take in this game is fine...

instead of whining like a 5yr old child how bout u put ur game on rookie or just refund.

[wafflesandp3ssy]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kashra Fall:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von lots-of-fia:

like i said b4 twice allready,the bloodsuckers are bugged rn yes.the other mutants ainth

They aren't bugged though. The modders already discovered why they are surviving. They have 30 armor points. You have to outdo the armor with armor pen and people simply don't have that early game, or sometimes even late game depending on the weapon. A M860 wil slugs and pen increase, can drop them in 2-3 shots. How many people you think have those readily available to deal with sometimes 2 suckers at a time?

yea,its allmost as if they are meant to be dangerous as hell early game

[inf4nitiz]

All mutants are not that hard to kill but there is a mod on nexus from grok that reduces mutant hp, I feel like chimeras are the only broken mutant as they take way too many bullets to kill

[GaryDaYeti]

Ammo is already super scarce as enemies drop sometimes 1-5 rounds, now suddenly a bloodsucker which takes like 90 shots of 5.45 is zipping around me and I cant even hit him, all my ammo is gone and I am left with like 50 rounds of Makarov. It's a little TOO much.
A full magazine should take down that beast.

[Crypto Gamer]

I think Bloodsuckers are around 2.5 times stronger than the basic weakest S1 bloodsucker on Master difficulty.

Although S1 had slightly different types of bloodsuckers even the strongest one(who had a weak cloak) was weaker.

And they also seem to be MORE common than in S1.
Way too common.

Not worth the ammo to fight them.

Flesh is also much stronger and no longer dies from a 1-2 close-range shotgun shot.

Seems to be even stronger than a S2 Boar.

Dogs seem to be in the same health or close to it.


Most Mutants seem to be slightly stronger but maybe because S2 veterans nerfs player dmg to 75% that gives mutants 133% EHP.

S2 Repair costs are MUCH higher than S1 repair costs they are even higher than many hardcore moded S1........

So fighting mutants cost a lot of money in S2.

And A-life is much more"rare"in S2 so you are less likely to meet random stalkers fighting mutants and or you flee into a nearby wandering friendly group so they help you fight them.(Often how I killed Chimeras in S1).


It also seems the headshot dmg bonus to mutants is much less in S2 than in S1.

Stalker's health seems to be around the same in the series.

I think the S2 player on Veteran is slightly more tanky than the S1 player on Master.

[GaryDaYeti]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von inf4nitiz:

All mutants are not that hard to kill but there is a mod on nexus from grok that reduces mutant hp, I feel like chimeras are the only broken mutant as they take way too many bullets to kill

Do these mods disable achievement unlocks or anything of that sort?