S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl

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Korben Dallas 20 NOV 2024 a las 18:36
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All things considred, Gamma is better. But Stalker 2 is streamlined
As the title says, The game is good but it seems like they under saturated some things to fit a bigger dumber audience.

I've been playing Stalker Anomaly with every type of mod, and it seems to be more of the Stalker series spirit. Granted stalker 2 is Stalker 2, the OGs.

I was expecting a bit more, specifically with the graphics. it seems like reshade and 4k mods for Stalker anomaly make it look better then Stalker 2. That said i know reshadess and hopefully mods come soon/

But man; i expected more like faction wars more integrated stuff like that.
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Norðmaður 20 NOV 2024 a las 19:32 
stalker 1 was streamlined aswell without mods, yall don't even know ♥♥♥♥
I Throw Spears. 20 NOV 2024 a las 19:43 
Maybe give the game more than a day?

GAMMA was made *YEARS* after CoP even, let alone SoC.

And lets not forget, GAMMA/Anomaly is NOT a Stalker release.

It is a complete, and total overhaul. Even so far as going from 32 -> 64 bit exe.

If you are disappointed, ignore Stalker 2 and let the modders have at it for a decade and then enjoy Stalker IOTA or whatever.
Sir Galahad 20 NOV 2024 a las 19:44 
Publicado originalmente por Phil McCracken:
Everybody who complains about GAMMA is a pea brained knuckle dragger. If it takes you hours to get a new gun(Which you can change because the whole point of the modpack is to be MODULAR), idk what to tell ya.

Nah just people who prefer graphics over gameplay, i doubt they will admit to being such type of people, pity them for they know not what they do.
Última edición por Sir Galahad; 20 NOV 2024 a las 19:45
Cheyenesku 20 NOV 2024 a las 19:45 
LOL, Gamma better. I like GAMMA buts thats not what Stalker game is. Its Tarkov in Stalker map.
sol 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:06 
Publicado originalmente por JSNFARRELL:
Publicado originalmente por sol:

Have you played yet? Thoughts? I agree with your line of thinking. This is a nice change of pace so far. Especially HUD off.
I wasn't quick to jump into it earlier being release day and all so I tried the XSX copy while hanging on the couch and it was nice to just boot up without the cons of running modpacks (Anomaly, GAMMA, "Custom", etc.) especially with the recent install/update issues GAMMA is having. Will boot up the PC version tomorrow and likely add a custom ReShade ontop. Hopefully they patch it again before then!

You?

brother im almost 4 hours game time today and im loving every second. highly recommend hud off and just rely on PDA. make sure drivers are up to date and ive heard high sharpness looks crazy bad with the new radiation system.
Feuver 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:21 
Publicado originalmente por Korben Dallas:
As the title says, The game is good but it seems like they under saturated some things to fit a bigger dumber audience.

I've been playing Stalker Anomaly with every type of mod, and it seems to be more of the Stalker series spirit. Granted stalker 2 is Stalker 2, the OGs.

I was expecting a bit more, specifically with the graphics. it seems like reshade and 4k mods for Stalker anomaly make it look better then Stalker 2. That said i know reshadess and hopefully mods come soon/

But man; i expected more like faction wars more integrated stuff like that.

Modders are a different beast than game devs. They can work unlimited hours, completely out of passion, for years with zero returns. Stalker Anomaly has been out for years and re-uses 100% of the assets from the base game. No ♥♥♥♥ it's going to be one hell of an impressive package.

GAMMA is a fine-tuned mod by a modder who really really loves crafting and modding. It's insanely bloated with garbage you don't need, and makes a game that has become overly simple for stalker veterans much more complex to add more replay value. It's not at ALL made to be a base experience, and any new players who has never played STALKER will be completely stuck in GAMMA within the first few hours. There's almost no guidance and no real way to figure out how to craft, repair and fix ♥♥♥♥.

So, no ♥♥♥♥ Stalker 2 (Just like Soc,CS and CoP before it) is much more simplified and streamlined. It's made to appeal to STALKER fans, not GAMMA or ANOMALY fans.
Última edición por Feuver; 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:21
Kain 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:27 
Man, GAMMA, that's an aples to oranges comparison, GAMMA is like Misery levels of micro management, but a bit less difficult. Hell, even the base games of the trilogy are nothing close to GAMMA, I'm not saying it's worse or better, but they feel like two completely different experiences and has different goals.
JDumbz 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:28 
Another Gamma skid thinking this was going to be a Stalker Gamma Tarkov experience, LOL.
Última edición por JDumbz; 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:29
Sir Galahad 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:31 
Publicado originalmente por Feuver:
Publicado originalmente por Korben Dallas:
As the title says, The game is good but it seems like they under saturated some things to fit a bigger dumber audience.

I've been playing Stalker Anomaly with every type of mod, and it seems to be more of the Stalker series spirit. Granted stalker 2 is Stalker 2, the OGs.

I was expecting a bit more, specifically with the graphics. it seems like reshade and 4k mods for Stalker anomaly make it look better then Stalker 2. That said i know reshadess and hopefully mods come soon/

But man; i expected more like faction wars more integrated stuff like that.

Modders are a different beast than game devs. They can work unlimited hours, completely out of passion, for years with zero returns. Stalker Anomaly has been out for years and re-uses 100% of the assets from the base game. No ♥♥♥♥ it's going to be one hell of an impressive package.

GAMMA is a fine-tuned mod by a modder who really really loves crafting and modding. It's insanely bloated with garbage you don't need, and makes a game that has become overly simple for stalker veterans much more complex to add more replay value. It's not at ALL made to be a base experience, and any new players who has never played STALKER will be completely stuck in GAMMA within the first few hours. There's almost no guidance and no real way to figure out how to craft, repair and fix ♥♥♥♥.

So, no ♥♥♥♥ Stalker 2 (Just like Soc,CS and CoP before it) is much more simplified and streamlined. It's made to appeal to STALKER fans, not GAMMA or ANOMALY fans.

Sounds like a user problem, no handholding is the reason why i play it.
King_Y ☢ 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:32 
man after playing stalker 2, just for the sake of stability and actually being playable, even vanilla anomaly is simply a better experience. Going from south to north, progressing, deactivating the brain scorcher.... is a better experience overall.
Neoignaz 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:34 
Publicado originalmente por Wilihey:
Publicado originalmente por Korben Dallas:
Yes. when it came out. this feels like a filtered down version version for the mass. Have you played Stalker anomaly ?
stalker anomaly is okay, a melting pot of all 3 games with some other stuff that changes the game design, GAMMA is just confused in its direction and the progression is entirely artificial, everything is locked through insane amount of grinding and repairing one weapon takes hours and a lot of back and forth to get the materials required to craft a repair kit, and you also have to progress through the story to get tools which is your only access to better tier weapons and armors

the original games actually had game design to them instead of being the work of hundreds of different modders with entirely different visions for what they wanted their anomaly experience to me bunched together into an abomination, and the tourists who started playing gamma before any other stalker game because they watched one operator drewski video completely flooded the stalker community and turn their game into the same gmod realism garbage brainrot that was flooding youtube years ago, overall the worst thing that may have happened to the stalker community like when a really niche song you loved goes mainstream on tiktok
Literally, people will act like GAMMA is the retail game itself lmao.
Blade 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:39 
Gamma or not I enjoy Stalker 2, but I hope some aspects will change. On Veteran difficulty, the game isn't challenging enough for me at the moment. One major issue is the loot. I found 20 medkits in the first hour and an excessive amount of ammo—it's a bit much. I've only played for about 8 hours, so maybe it gets different later; we’ll see.

Also, I can't turn off the Christmas tree icons on my compass—it just doesn’t work. I can disable the entire compass, but not specific elements. It's still early in the game, but I'm enjoying it regardless. Sorry for my English!
Última edición por Blade; 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:40
Jinzo 20 NOV 2024 a las 20:51 
Publicado originalmente por Feuver:
Publicado originalmente por Korben Dallas:
As the title says, The game is good but it seems like they under saturated some things to fit a bigger dumber audience.

I've been playing Stalker Anomaly with every type of mod, and it seems to be more of the Stalker series spirit. Granted stalker 2 is Stalker 2, the OGs.

I was expecting a bit more, specifically with the graphics. it seems like reshade and 4k mods for Stalker anomaly make it look better then Stalker 2. That said i know reshadess and hopefully mods come soon/

But man; i expected more like faction wars more integrated stuff like that.

So, no ♥♥♥♥ Stalker 2 (Just like Soc,CS and CoP before it) is much more simplified and streamlined. It's made to appeal to STALKER fans, not GAMMA or ANOMALY fans.

I think OP's point is that its made for the mass market as opposed to "hardcore" stalker fans, anomaly etc was just mentioned to reinforce this point.

Given the amount of resources you get so quickly i would be inclined to agree, it plays more like a shooter than a survival horror, and its not like this is that surprising, you just can't make big budget games like this without aiming for the largest audience possible.
VVakba 21 NOV 2024 a las 0:48 
"hardcore stalker fans" don't play Anomaly this much, since it's a different game with a different balance and design.

Or they play it with the Old World Addon, which isn't Anomaly anymore since it revert back all of the changes to be very similar to a vanilla freeplay gamemode.

If you replay the 3 main games, difficulty is present, but the new one is definitely harder (except the end of SoC at the npp...).

Also, the old games are very much... a shooter. And not a Tarkov ultra realistic one, it's Counter Strike with bullet drop. Especially Clear Sky. Ressources management was always superficial.
Última edición por VVakba; 21 NOV 2024 a las 0:48
Feuver 21 NOV 2024 a las 6:13 
Publicado originalmente por Jinzo:
Publicado originalmente por Feuver:

So, no ♥♥♥♥ Stalker 2 (Just like Soc,CS and CoP before it) is much more simplified and streamlined. It's made to appeal to STALKER fans, not GAMMA or ANOMALY fans.

I think OP's point is that its made for the mass market as opposed to "hardcore" stalker fans, anomaly etc was just mentioned to reinforce this point.

Given the amount of resources you get so quickly i would be inclined to agree, it plays more like a shooter than a survival horror, and its not like this is that surprising, you just can't make big budget games like this without aiming for the largest audience possible.

EXcept OP mentions Gamma, not Anomaly. Anomaly is much closer to base games. Gamma is like an entirely game where you are constantly carrying crafting and dismantling things for small incremental gain in power.
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