I don't get the concept of the game

[Dabu]

The game looks cute but doesn't know what it wants to be. I don't get the effort put into this where clearly it's mecanics doesn't merge at all with the main components of the game: PVP and Survival.

What's the point of building cute houses and make gardening / farms if the point is PVP ? Can you even enter the houses ? What's the point of them, what's the point in decoration all together in this scenario ?

What's the point to kill others ? To steal their flowers and fish ? For what extent ? Survival ? I don't see any parameters linked to survival like thirst, hunger, heat/cold, etc... There's only like a stamina bar / health bar on the corner right, is that it ?

You can see on screenshots that the ressources you collect will go in the Compendium, a sort of archive like Animal Crossing but again what's the point if this is just Rust in the world of Animal Crossing.

The game looks beautiful but it seems like a bad joke, one that's funny on paper but which could never work in practice because the two genre aren't compatible enough to generate an audience in the long-term.

And what's a shame is that the game looks good ! You could make a good Animal Crossing clone, art direction is on point ! But where this game can't implement AC basic functions like NPCs, it can't either compete with real survival games that have more depth into them. All around, it just can't please AC fans nor Survival Fans.

It really isn't much more than what it seems: a joke that start crumbling on itself the more you look at it.

[Barrizzle]

Have you played it yet? Ah, okay. Cool :D

[Dabu]

Originally posted by Barrizzle:

Have you played it yet? Ah, okay. Cool :D

No but there's a Steam page with informations about the game, a trailer, and dev-logs. Seems enough to elaborate on the concept of the game. Very cool indeed.

[Loot Goblin]

Review before gameplay.... broooooo

[Zorlac]

Originally posted by Dabu:

The game looks cute but doesn't know what it wants to be. I don't get the effort put into this where clearly it's mecanics doesn't merge at all with the main components of the game: PVP and Survival.

What's the point of building cute houses and make gardening / farms if the point is PVP ? Can you even enter the houses ? What's the point of them, what's the point in decoration all together in this scenario ?

What's the point to kill others ? To steal their flowers and fish ? For what extent ? Survival ? I don't see any parameters linked to survival like thirst, hunger, heat/cold, etc... There's only like a stamina bar / health bar on the corner right, is that it ?

You can see on screenshots that the ressources you collect will go in the Compendium, a sort of archive like Animal Crossing but again what's the point if this is just Rust in the world of Animal Crossing.

The game looks beautiful but it seems like a bad joke, one that's funny on paper but which could never work in practice because the two genre aren't compatible enough to generate an audience in the long-term.

And what's a shame is that the game looks good ! You could make a good Animal Crossing clone, art direction is on point ! But where this game can't implement AC basic functions like NPCs, it can't either compete with real survival games that have more depth into them. All around, it just can't please AC fans nor Survival Fans.

It really isn't much more than what it seems: a joke that start crumbling on itself the more you look at it.

Are you really reviewing a game you haven't played? Seriously? Why are you here?

[Jabodl]

This question of concept basically covers any early access survival type game. Even after release most survival elements like hunger, thirst, hot/cold environments mean next to nothing.

For me the most fun in survival games are other players and making up your own rules.

Oh and no I have not played it yet but probably will give it a try. Just because it has fishing and PvP cause I love virtual fish and stealing other peoples fish. I can also never have enough

[Dabu]

I didn't actually thought that many people could be so poor in their argumentations.

Okay so I have a few concepts in my head ready to be sold on Steam for you guys. Let's create a Stardew Valley BattleRoyale, a Doom Coloring and Educational Workbook, a Super Mario Visual Novel and a GTA Puzzle Game.

Surely, you'll be willing to pay 20$ to test them out and then tell me that it doesn't work and that the idea was stupid afterward, right ? Like you couldn't guess it beforehand.

Just because you randomly mix genres and popular franchises together means that the idea will be good. I don't need to play and test a game to understand that it's concept is poor and only relies on the popularity that Animal Crossing has. At best, this is a an attempt at a cashgrab on a popular franchise, take the AC skin out of this game and you have litteraly nothing left.

And you want the best part ? They know it. That's why most of the screenshots and even the main banner of the game on Steam shows Animal Crossing first and the guns later. This concept is f*cking dumb and goes nowhere.

Originally posted by Jabodl:

This question of concept basically covers any early access survival type game.

No, it doesn't. Simply because most indie-devs does something before production phase called "Game-Design" where you establish rules, gameplay and motivations as a base structure. Valheim, Phasmophobia, ULTRAKILL, Raft, BeSiege, Darkest Dungeon, Dead Cells, Hades, Slay The Spire... and many more had a clear concept and vision on the direction they wanted to go and no one ever questionned their decision because it made sense in the first place.

Originally posted by Jabodl:

Even after release most survival elements like hunger, thirst, hot/cold environments mean next to nothing.

Go play The Forest, Raft, Don't Starve, DayZ, This War of Mine or even f*cking Minecraft and see if survival elements means next to nothing. You'll either lose most of your health or die by daylight. If you have an opinion to make, make sure to elaborate a coherent one before saying that survival games don't rely on the basic mecanics making a survival game work.

[Zorlac]

You simply cannot give the feedback your giving based on screenshots man. It's ridiculous to think anyone would take you seriously. Nothing but negative feedback on a game you've not played?

I've not played it either, and you can make a note that I'm not passing any judgement on it good or bad.

[Helldiver Joe]

Don't judge a book by it's cover

[Dabu]

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[Zorlac]

I read it all and you are simply in no place to give this kind of feedback not having played the game.

[Jasujo]

Tbh, I would totally play a Super Mario visual novel and a Metroid dating simulator.

[Dabu]

Originally posted by Youtube.com/c/zorlac:

I read it all and you are simply in no place to give this kind of feedback not having played the game.

Then, I actually can't do anything for you, mate. If you can't comprehend the differences between the critics made against a concept and a whole review elaborating on every aspect of the game, this is hopeless. The fact that you're even associating the two like it's the same thing is even more concerning.

Your whole argumentation since the beginning is just "You have no right to say that", which is ridiculous. You can determine if the concept of a game works just by looking at the idea on paper; even Kickstarter is based on this whole concept of "fund it if you think this could work" psychology. Hollow Knight was funded through this method simply by the thousands of people reading informations and watching the trailer of it. This is what I'm doing here, and this concept doesn't work.

It's not even that hard to understand. We can disagree and talk about it, but if you have nothing left to add besides repeating the same thing with no other defense than that, I'll simply pass from now on because it really feels like talking to a wall or a children.

[Dabu]

Originally posted by Jasujo:

Tbh, I would totally play a Super Mario visual novel and a Metroid dating simulator. :controllerThumbsUp:

Ok, I can agree that some people will have fun on the most weird and bizarre concepts you can found

But it still makes LongVinter a niche game at best and a wasted potential in a better genre at worst.

[Zorlac]

Originally posted by Dabu:

Originally posted by Youtube.com/c/zorlac:

I read it all and you are simply in no place to give this kind of feedback not having played the game.

Then, I actually can't do anything for you, mate. If you can't comprehend the differences between the critics made against a concept and a whole review elaborating on every aspect of the game, this is hopeless. The fact that you're even associating the two like it's the same thing is even more concerning.

Your whole argumentation since the beginning is just "You have no right to say that", which is ridiculous. You can determine if the concept of a game works just by looking at the idea on paper; even Kickstarter is based on this whole concept of "fund it if you think this could work" psychology. Hollow Knight was funded through this method simply by the thousands of people reading informations and watching the trailer of it. This is what I'm doing here, and this concept doesn't work.

It's not even that hard to understand. We can disagree and talk about it, but if you have nothing left to add besides repeating the same thing with no other defense than that, I'll simply pass from now on because it really feels like talking to a wall or a children.

I'm not asking you to do anything for me. I'm TELLING you that you have no place giving this kind of feedback based on screenshots.

[Dabu]

Originally posted by Youtube.com/c/zorlac:

I'm not asking you to do anything for me. I'm TELLING you that you have no place giving this kind of feedback based on screenshots.

Stop only reading the first sentence of my messages, stop repeating yourself while I tell you this defense is pathetic and childish, start giving responses to the arguments I've given you and we'll have a conversation.

This is the last time I respond to your robotic nonsensical single line, I feel like I've actually given way more time and arguments than I should to your answers, we'll be talking again when you actually have something else to say than the actual looping insanity that goes on in your head since the last 2 hours.

If you want to have the last word by repeating one last time yourself by saying that I have no right to give my opinion on the concept of game and not the game as a whole, do so. It will only adds to the insane child aspect of your whole "argumentation".