Gold Version

[Godwoken Dovahkiin]

Is there no Gold version of Rise of the Elves? I wanted all the Disciples 2 content available and I feel like I bought Gallean's Return for no reason. This game confused me with all the editions it had on CD back in the days.

[strigvir]

Gold Edition is just a bundle of Rise of the Elves and Gallean's Return. You won't be able to play Guardians of the Light / Servants the Dark campaigns with RotE changes even in Gold Edition.

[Godwoken Dovahkiin]

Originally posted by strigvir:

Gold Edition is just a bundle of Rise of the Elves and Gallean's Return. You won't be able to play Guardians of the Light / Servants the Dark campaigns with RotE changes even in Gold Edition.

I see, so basically the only thing that's missing is the 4 mission mini campaign from RotE Gold?

[QWEEDDY2]

If you buy Disciples 2 Gold on any site except GOG - u have all official gold content. If u bought it in the any except Steam\GOG - you have last version.

For Steam\GOG you must buy both and combine. Main files from VPK archives (google it GCFScape) from Steam + 6 exe(and 1 manual file) from GOG (only exe patched!)

Disciples the Rise of the Elves always be stand alone game, it not a DLC like light\dark\gallean. You can try to find extracted original campaign (easy to find live links for Russian\Polish, both incorrect) or make you own(*). But it never be official, cause yu must edit all Day1 events.

http://nevendaar.com/index/0-43
http://netd.sklabs.ru/Scenarios/D2Scenarios.html
some names misprints and only one Tutorial listed.
A Pact with the Devil is a extracted map from 2nd The Elven Alliance campaign (prequel?) - not balanced

[QWEEDDY2]

Also, original Dark Prophecy (ver. 1.1 and 1.2 at least) do not have bug with Un-FOG script for original campaigns. And GR have minor balance change and at least one character change (Lyf the Dark Elf).
Im prefer original Collector's Edition CD (found it on italy forum-tracker TNTVillage, but wrong image - can be patched but require Crack) at least for Tutorial (different too) and Empire campaign. And same for GR, Empire and most skirmish maps (dont forged to copy them back from RotE to GR) - in GR, and other 3 campaigns in RotE... still as alternative cause not 100% accuracy copy.
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[Godwoken Dovahkiin]

That's a lot of work to get all the content, feelsbadman. I used to play Servants of the Dark and Guardians of Light back in my teens, this goes deeper than I imagined. I just wanted to beat the story and the extra maps, I usually did quests and mess around trying to reach maxed units to see how they looked.

Have you heard of any modern game that plays like Disciples 2? I bought 3 but I didn't like it that much, bought Reniassance and Ressurection and apparently Reincarnation is the definitve edition I should've bought in the first place and there was no need to buy Reniassance. Why is Disciples so complicated? :(

[QWEEDDY2]

With Dis3 is more harder... Reincarnation =\= gold edition. Lack of features, and battle mechanics\balance based on broken Ressurection. AI excluded from Ressurection and Reincarnation - even more scripted stupid campaign. Also only Renaissance have online achiev. (same bugged as offline addons achievm.) I recommend walkthrough Disciples 3 in Disciples 3, and maybe Ressurection in Reincarnation. Or leave Reincarnation for further playing Skirmish\Online.

For Disciples 2 you can extract any campaigns by loading save files as map in ScenEditor. You must use only start_autosave and do some editing. Hex editor first, if you want play each map separate in Skirmish.
If you do not want doing something - just play GR in GR, and only 2 elven campaigns in RotE game
http://yadi.sk/d/M0XF6vcYZLLm4
Check Disciples folder. I put there 6 drm-free exe + two manual (one not inc. in steam), and im copy-paste 100% compatible maps in 2-\3-Export.7z archives. 2- =GR version, 3- =RotE version, 1- =Dark Prophecy version of Export folders.
RotE support GR heroes, but have minor stats screen bug only when you start a new game. One of the RotE (from Gold) heroes compatible with GR (cause 3 lvl only and same artefacts), but crashed. I re-save him in GR. So i copy-paste 99% compatible leaders from GR<->RotE

1-Export.7z archive contain maps from Dark Prophecy CE 1.1 version -- some maps patched from 1.0, and some differ than GR\RotE variant. Original Tutorial v.1.x include as well.

[Godwoken Dovahkiin]

Ah I see, thank you for the files, this makes everything much simpler!

Also, do you happen to know where to find the change log from the game versions? I tried googling but I couldn't find much info, all I know is that GR is apparently harder.

[QWEEDDY2]

Hmm... Web archive can help. But there is no of-al changelog for 1.41-2.0 version. All we know that 2.0 is a Gallean's Return - extended Dark Prophecy game. Most technical and balance chages from 1.41 patch actually. One or even two of two-sized demons have additional attack ability. Lyf have different description about Dark Elves race. Un-FOG map scripts work differ in Editor (now have fog\un-fog option) (actually original campaigns map events must be same, developers missed something).
Read all txt and manual in both Galleand\Elves installation root folders. +1 manual from my link (with DRM-free exe). It have changes for 2.02 and 3.01+RotEGold updates (gog do not have last one). For 1.41 i can find link in Web Archive - wait a seconds...
http://web.archive.org/web/20070205132801/http://www.strategyfirst.ca/downloads/patches/D2Patch1.4readme.txt
1.4-1.41 change described in installed txt file after patching: 1.41 hotfix only changes main menu version from 1.3-1.41

[悟り]

The 'Disciples II Rise of the Elves' on steam is the 'Rise of the Elves - Gold' version.

The sad thing though is the game version. Steam doesn't have the 3.01 patch of the executables (Discipl2 and ScenEdit both 3.0).

The only thing that is 3.01 is the Main Menu screen, the game version is still in 3.0 which contains a couple of bugs.

You can confirm this by casting the Elven spell called Gallean's Boon - it does not add 50HP but adds 50% of Max HP.

In 3.01 the Doppelganger cannot clone Sir Allemon.

Steam need to update this game to 3.01.

All of you who have own this game can confirm this by looking at the executable's properties

[QWEEDDY2]

http://yadi.sk/d/M0XF6vcYZLLm4

[strigvir]

Thanks for the virus.

[QWEEDDY2]

Always use your antivirus... but also - http://www.virustotal.com/ . No guarantees.
You can buy GOG version in addition to DRM Steam version and copy-paste exe files (GCFScape for VPK archives for steam version).

[悟り]

Why just can't steam patch this. They can contact Strategy First/Akella for the files and update the app on steamdb.

[悟り]

@QWEEDDY2

Do you have the Guardians of the Light and Servants of the Dark mini-campaign available?

I want to make a Custom Saga out of it in ROTE but I don't have a Gallean's Return to get a copy of.

[QWEEDDY2]

Buy it. :p
There is no live links for english version, i think. Russian exist, but with some minor scripts errors.

I can create in game, packed and send for you Star_campaign autosaves - but you steel need GR Editor. Files for Editor useful only for translate Editor to other lang. I dont think it be work from empty folder or from RotE folder.

Send you friend request. I wanna PM you personal link with some files that required for GR editor.