Storyteller

Storyteller

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MrSam Mar 23, 2023 @ 12:40pm
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Where is all the demo content?
Seriously, the full game feels less finished than the demo from a year ago. Entire story themes are missing, jester hats are gone and it doesn't feel like anything new was added. Surely it's not gonna be sold as DLC, right?
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Sam Mar 23, 2023 @ 12:49pm 
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Originally posted by MrSam:
Seriously, the full game feels less finished than the demo from a year ago. Entire story themes are missing, jester hats are gone and it doesn't feel like anything new was added. Surely it's not gonna be sold as DLC, right?
The reasons aren't that interesting. There were just changes to bonus objectives over the course of the last year or so of development. Certain demo stories were cut or reworked into different stories in the final game, either because they didn't fit well or weren't up to quality, etc.

But no, we're definitely not going to sell you demo levels as DLC.
Lord_Dracon Mar 23, 2023 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Sam:
The reasons aren't that interesting. There were just changes to bonus objectives over the course of the last year or so of development. Certain demo stories were cut or reworked into different stories in the final game, either because they didn't fit well or weren't up to quality, etc.

So when you "cut or rework" the price, maybe I'll buy it.
Last edited by Lord_Dracon; Mar 23, 2023 @ 5:12pm
EVILDM Mar 23, 2023 @ 1:45pm 
Demo was superior. It had more soul and it was more charming. I spent more time on the demo then on the finished game. The missing content and the lost ability to costumize the stories are a huge letdown. I enjoyed going back to the demo over and over even after finishing it, I don't feel the same way about this. Quantity went up but quality overall went down.
lyndonguitar Mar 23, 2023 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by EVILDM:
Demo was superior. It had more soul and it was more charming. I spent more time on the demo then on the finished game. The missing content and the lost ability to costumize the stories are a huge letdown. I enjoyed going back to the demo over and over even after finishing it, I don't feel the same way about this. Quantity went up but quality overall went down.
any ideas where i can download the demo
Kiavik Mar 23, 2023 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Sam:
Originally posted by MrSam:
Seriously, the full game feels less finished than the demo from a year ago. Entire story themes are missing, jester hats are gone and it doesn't feel like anything new was added. Surely it's not gonna be sold as DLC, right?
The reasons aren't that interesting. There were just changes to bonus objectives over the course of the last year or so of development. Certain demo stories were cut or reworked into different stories in the final game, either because they didn't fit well or weren't up to quality, etc.

But no, we're definitely not going to sell you demo levels as DLC.

Well, let me tell you that removing the jester hat extra challenges was a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible idea. It's like you carved a big chunk of the soul out of the game. I don't get why. No offense, but it was a really bone-headed decision. Hope they're added back at a later time, because it was a huge disappointment to not have them there.

And all the demo content that went missing... Yikes, what were you thinking?
Pidge Mar 23, 2023 @ 5:38pm 
I absolutely loved the demo. This thread sums up how I feel too. It feels like between the demo and the full release the game lost a lot of its soul.
Zero Mar 23, 2023 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by Kiavik:
Originally posted by Sam:
The reasons aren't that interesting. There were just changes to bonus objectives over the course of the last year or so of development. Certain demo stories were cut or reworked into different stories in the final game, either because they didn't fit well or weren't up to quality, etc.

But no, we're definitely not going to sell you demo levels as DLC.

Well, let me tell you that removing the jester hat extra challenges was a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible idea. It's like you carved a big chunk of the soul out of the game. I don't get why. No offense, but it was a really bone-headed decision. Hope they're added back at a later time, because it was a huge disappointment to not have them there.

And all the demo content that went missing... Yikes, what were you thinking?
I do wish the game was longer, but the challenges aren't gone even if the jester hat is.

Instead of unlocking them all after you complete all of the original challenges, each one is immediately available after you complete the first version.
Salju Mar 24, 2023 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by Sam:
Originally posted by MrSam:
Seriously, the full game feels less finished than the demo from a year ago. Entire story themes are missing, jester hats are gone and it doesn't feel like anything new was added. Surely it's not gonna be sold as DLC, right?
The reasons aren't that interesting. There were just changes to bonus objectives over the course of the last year or so of development. Certain demo stories were cut or reworked into different stories in the final game, either because they didn't fit well or weren't up to quality, etc.

But no, we're definitely not going to sell you demo levels as DLC.


So you made the game shorter and less fun on purpose. The demo was great and was why I wanted to buy the game. The game that you released isn't like the demo. And if you need the money that bad then you could have just released it as EA title at a cheap price or something. Making people pay almost 15 usd for an hour to two hour game with an end credits sequel baiting doesn't look good.
loki Mar 24, 2023 @ 5:28am 
I actually quite like the final version.
It feels more cohesive and challenging.
Demo levels are indeed fun, but might not quite fit the launch version.
Congrats on finishing the game, devs 👑
magicsmile251 Mar 24, 2023 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Salju:
Originally posted by Sam:
The reasons aren't that interesting. There were just changes to bonus objectives over the course of the last year or so of development. Certain demo stories were cut or reworked into different stories in the final game, either because they didn't fit well or weren't up to quality, etc.

But no, we're definitely not going to sell you demo levels as DLC.


So you made the game shorter and less fun on purpose. The demo was great and was why I wanted to buy the game. The game that you released isn't like the demo. And if you need the money that bad then you could have just released it as EA title at a cheap price or something. Making people pay almost 15 usd for an hour to two hour game with an end credits sequel baiting doesn't look good.
cannot agree more. The demo is much more fun, more flexible.
sillythings Mar 25, 2023 @ 4:20am 
Seeing the complaints about the lack of jester levels, I went back and watched a playthrough of the demo. Genuinely do not understand people's issue with the changes. The "jester levels" are literally still there, just more streamlined, and without the jester theme, as Zero pointed out.

About the only thing that really feels like it's missing is the Adam & Eve levels that include God and the Tree of Knowledge, but we also got a lot more new stories and themes (I especially enjoyed the Detective ones). Everything else that was changed or scrapped feels like it provided a more cohesive, polished and clearer version of the game in the end.

And how is the demo more flexible?
Last edited by sillythings; Mar 25, 2023 @ 4:21am
Namunull Mar 25, 2023 @ 11:32am 
I had high expectations that the final version of the game would honor many classic stories and plots, but alas...
consulting a book about classic plots would help, I guess?
(Also I have no idea how the final version got them removed, all the shining creativity from the demo. the short volume is not the worst issue here. Now most of the levels feel repetitive and dull-)
Last edited by Namunull; Mar 25, 2023 @ 11:36am
Not to mention that having the icon of a lock in what clearly looks like the middle, and not the end, of the book, really hints at there being content to be unlocked when you beat the game. But no, what you unlock is... the end screen. Yay! But hey, you get a crown whose shadow you get to see look at while you don't play the game anymore because you've already beaten it. Nice! :/

To be very clear, I loved the demo and I also loved all the minutes I spent on the full game. But the demo (especially that "ending reel" thing) basically promised more content than what was delivered. My feeling is that at some point the game had to be shipped as-is and a lot of content was cut.

***EDIT***
Well, now with the recent update the game got MUCH more complete and satisfactory! The amount of content is just right (in my opinion). Amazing game! I'm just a tiny bit annoyed that now the game is free for anyone with a Netflix account (which I have), but well, it's always nice to support indie devs, especially fellow South American devs.
Last edited by GoldSkulltulaHunter; Sep 30, 2023 @ 11:54am
Damian Apr 1, 2023 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by EVILDM:
Demo was superior. It had more soul and it was more charming. I spent more time on the demo then on the finished game. The missing content and the lost ability to costumize the stories are a huge letdown. I enjoyed going back to the demo over and over even after finishing it, I don't feel the same way about this. Quantity went up but quality overall went down.
Couldnt agree more. Demo was way more superior and fun, didnt hesitate to refund this game after i had only 1 hour of playtime
thiagorn26 Apr 1, 2023 @ 4:16pm 
I really liked the game a lot (I played it on the Nintendo Switch). But I also played the demo version a year ago. I agree that the demo version offered a greater variety of scenarios. As I played through the chapters of the full version of StoryTeller, I couldn't help but notice how much the same characters and similar stories kept repeating themselves (eg The Lovers, the king/queen, the gnomes...). The chapter that I found most interesting was the one about the witch, which was different from all the other stories that kept repeating themselves. Don't get me wrong, I don't regret having bought the game, but I think it lacked the creation of more scenarios for the players, I expected a little more.
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