Ship classes (UFP)

[cervesian]

Maybe I am too stupid or something like this but I'am in my second game as UFP and it seems I am unable to research any ship class except for Miranda (start ship class) and Intrepid (in my first game I was lucky and also got the California). What is it that I am missing / What do I need to do to get other classes (e.g. Akira, Excelsior, ...)?

[VampXGamer]

Having the same problem, I can only build Miranda and Intrepid class. I've gone through the missions and the research tree, got the Enterprise D but only those two hulls are available.

[jedirobus]

Originally posted by VampXGamer:

Having the same problem, I can only build Miranda and Intrepid class. I've gone through the missions and the research tree, got the Enterprise D but only those two hulls are available.

Much, much later in the game "years" wise I finally saw Excelsior and Galaxy come up in the research tree but it took hours, i dunno if there is a faster way but they eventually do come it looks like. dunno if you ever get new science vessels though

[Village Idiot]

Originally posted by jedirobus:

Originally posted by VampXGamer:

Having the same problem, I can only build Miranda and Intrepid class. I've gone through the missions and the research tree, got the Enterprise D but only those two hulls are available.

Much, much later in the game "years" wise I finally saw Excelsior and Galaxy come up in the research tree but it took hours, i dunno if there is a faster way but they eventually do come it looks like. dunno if you ever get new science vessels though

What type of ship is the Excelsior?

[BrianDavion]

... it's the excelsior... Sulu's ship from trek 6. and the enterprise B...

[Village Idiot]

Originally posted by BrianDavion:

... it's the excelsior... Sulu's ship from trek 6. and the enterprise B...

Oh no no, I mean the ship classification in game.

I read from someone that there's only 5x ships per faction and the Federation only have the Miranda, Defiant, Intrepid, Galaxy and Sovereign.

[sarrowquand]

I didn't see Excelsior until 2395. It really should be your second ship option, Excelsior and Miranda as workhorse ships, eventually Intrepid as an advanced fast cruiser, after Galaxy even.

At least Oberths loling around being defencless but useful is on point.

[Dozand]

this game to ♥♥♥♥ for have Akira class, it use stupid old stellaris ship system -covet, dectr. cruser, battleship, titan, so what we have from game files --- MIRANDA // INTREPID // EXCELSIOR // GALAXY // SOVEREIGN aannnddd DEFIANT as secret ship, no great Constitution. no Akira and etc. wait dlc if it be =)

[OLO]

for whatever reason, and I had to take a look at the game files for this, the ships are locked behind timers, with the sovereign not realistically showing up as an option till about 130+ years. Their all like this, theirs a check every 10 odd years that increases the likelyhood of a new ship showing up in research, so about 30ish years after each type(I know wonky explanation but its all timegated.)

[cervesian]

Thanks for the answers, I finally got the excelsion in 2392 or so.

The timer explains a lot, but this really should be changed in my oppinion. At least the Excelsior appears way too late (in canon it was a new ship class in the 2280s. This means that in the game it appears like 100+ years too late.

[Syn]

It's disconcerting that there are so few classes, and that one slot was wasted on the hideous non-canon Lower Decks crap garbage scow Churritos.

[sarrowquand]

They should have it setup so you have all 5(?) hull types unlocked from the start and then you research a better verison of them. Start with Constitution, Miranda, Constelation, etc and Constitution upgrades to Excelsior, eventually Miranda is replaced by Akira, Constelation with Interpid etc.

[RogueSkyknight]

Most empires by this time would have had their equivalent destroyer, cruiser, and battleship classes, so starting with them wouldn't be a bad idea imo.

Galaxy class is a bit later sure, but no so much that I think it would causes issues with fans (Ambassador would be here canonically); D'deridex or a related near-equivalent caused Khitomer so fine there. The Vor'cha was just entering service at this time according to basically every sources I've seen on it; and the Cardassian's have a non-canon game specific ship anyway.

Balance the cost/fleet size so people don't just spam battleships out the gate and I think we'd have a fairly good (and mostly lore accurate) start.

[Dozand]

yea, i m hardly recoment have screen ships with mass S slot flaks even when use BS or titan, they do great job vs rokets corvets spam ai like use

[Redfazey]

Originally posted by Syn:

It's disconcerting that there are so few classes, and that one slot was wasted on the hideous non-canon Lower Decks crap garbage scow Churritos.

Lower Decks is canon. I'm not sure why the game developers decided it was so important as to have it with the Enterprise as a special ship, but it is canon.

[evilestkhan]

here we go again miranda was in 'wrath of khan' no need to research it.