Year restriction of Sovereign class ship

[dyc201089]

Hi people, any idea what year will sovereign class ship appear in the tech tree? I finally got Galaxy class around year 2425 right now and still waiting for sovereign class...

[IndianaJones]

You will get it before 2500 to face the Borg.
I played a few week ago so I'm not sure about this, but I think it required top tier starbase with some additional module. And it builds around 2 years alone.

[dyc201089]

Originally posted by Deadlock:

You will get it before 2500 to face the Borg.
I played a few week ago so I'm not sure about this, but I think it required top tier starbase with some additional module. And it builds around 2 years alone.

But I already solved the Janeway events, will it still be available?

[Skorpius]

I failed the borg , Janeway event and by 2480ish the borg came back and wiped out all life on the map, Cardies were first to fall, then Romulans, then Feds, as I was Klingon, I recalled all my ships to Quonos for a last stand. I got wiped also, but I only got to Vorcha class ship, I was currently researching the Neg var while the Borg were exterminating all life. I imagine if I did not fail the Janeway event , The borg would have not been as powerful. I think the dates for the borg invasion change , if you fail the Janeway mission, I need to play again and make sure to finish the Janeway mission. I do not know, for sure, just have to try to figure it out lol. This time I will play as the Puny Feds.

[bratacsga]

The thing I've found with the Borg missions is delaying completion is smarter. Each step before Kathy appears has a 5-year countdown, and on my first couple of playthroughs I went for the each mission as soon as it appeared... which meant I didn't have enough firepower to keep Kathy alive when the time came.
Waiting until near the end of the countdown before I started the missions bought me a lot more time, so this time around I was easily able to keep Kathy alive, finish off the Borg, and get back to integrating minor powers (I was on 8 or 9 out of 10 when Kathy returned) for the win... and then like an idiot I decided to keep it running. The other three are to week to even consider attacking me, so no Bajor this time around... and I'm just running down the clock to see if anything else happens before the 300-years win

[Raskol]

Originally posted by Skorpius:

I failed the borg ,

How did you get the event to fail? Genuine question, because every playthrough I did I never managed to fail the event and trigger the full Borg crisis.

[danm_45]

I failed the Borg event in my first game because the other 3 powers major powers declared war against me while my fleets were on the other side of my territory in an occupation war. I just could not spare the ships. Now I know that it would have been better to surrender than to let the Janeway event fail.

[Skorpius]

I failed it once because the event was outside My warp bubble. The other time, is because I did not have enough ships for two rounds of borg. I won the first round and then brought Kathy back. The second round of borg ships, I was not able to kill all the borg ships. Then Kathy got dusted as soon as she entered the system. I was Klingon both times. In fact I have not beat the Janeway event with Klingons yet. Only with the Feds

[thelebk]

I don't believe the date information above is correct. I just completed the game as the Federation and NEVER got the Sovereign Class Ship. Only the upgraded enterprise. The game ends in a point victory before the Sovereign class is ever unlocked. Kinda sucks.

[IndianaJones]

Originally posted by thelebk:

I don't believe the date information above is correct. I just completed the game as the Federation and NEVER got the Sovereign Class Ship. Only the upgraded enterprise. The game ends in a point victory before the Sovereign class is ever unlocked. Kinda sucks.

AFAIK there are two winning conditions, assimilate 12 minor nations or have highest empire score after 300 years.

You can still continue playing after victory (1st condition), Sovereign class still needs to be researched, it just locked like other ships to some stardate.
Did you scroll down through all available researches? It's not that obvious there are more than 3 research items and the scroll-bar is tiny.

What was your last ship?

[IndianaJones]

I dug into some game files.

If I understood them correctly, Sovereign is internally a Titan Class, and it should show as a research option after 118 years from game start. That would be 2464 for a chance to get it in research as an option.


Stellaris code

	weight_modifier = {
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.5
			has_ethic = ethic_pacifist
		}
	}
here ===>	# These are the weighting modifier used to determine how likely this technology is drawn as an option.
	    # If weight is multiplied by 0, this tech can't be drawn as an option, but can still be given by scripts and console commands.

Star Trek Infinite code

	weight_modifier = {
		modifier = {
			factor = 0
			years_passed < 110
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 5
			years_passed > 118  # <=== here
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 5
			any_neighbor_country = {
			has_technology = tech_titan_unlock
			}
		}

[dyc201089]

Originally posted by Deadlock:

I dug into some game files.

If I understood them correctly, Sovereign is internally a Titan Class, and it should show as a research option after 118 years from game start. That would be 2464 for a chance to get it in research as an option.


Stellaris code

	weight_modifier = {
		modifier = {
			factor = 1.5
			has_ethic = ethic_pacifist
		}
	}
here ===>	# These are the weighting modifier used to determine how likely this technology is drawn as an option.
	    # If weight is multiplied by 0, this tech can't be drawn as an option, but can still be given by scripts and console commands.

Star Trek Infinite code

	weight_modifier = {
		modifier = {
			factor = 0
			years_passed < 110
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 5
			years_passed > 118  # <=== here
		}
		modifier = {
			factor = 5
			any_neighbor_country = {
			has_technology = tech_titan_unlock
			}
		}

That's awesome! I didn't expect it to be called titan class, was searching by keyword sovereign. Guess it's just inherited from Stellaris code, which sucks...
I'll wait until 2464 to see if the tech appears.

[thelebk]

Originally posted by Deadlock:

Originally posted by thelebk:

I don't believe the date information above is correct. I just completed the game as the Federation and NEVER got the Sovereign Class Ship. Only the upgraded enterprise. The game ends in a point victory before the Sovereign class is ever unlocked. Kinda sucks.

Did you scroll down through all available researches? It's not that obvious there are more than 3 research items and the scroll-bar is tiny.

What was your last ship?

There is a chance I may have missed a research with a scroll bar but I don think so. I won the game after 300 years shortly after I unlocked and deployed galaxy class ships.