Borg mission

[car21lou]

If you fail the Borg mission is there any way of winning against the borg when they re appear later in the game?

When I start the pathogen mission and get all the ships there required I can't beat the borg as their fleet is over 10k strong.

[OceanhaZe]

Depends on who you are playing as. However, you should have well over 10k when they appear endgame.

[danm_45]

It looks possible, but you will need a lot of massive fleets. The hardest part seems to be reaching all of the highway nodes before your planets get overrun.

[car21lou]

Originally posted by OceanhaZe:

Depends on who you are playing as. However, you should have well over 10k when they appear endgame.

I'm playing Fed.

[car21lou]

Originally posted by danm_45:

It looks possible, but you will need a lot of massive fleets. The hardest part seems to be reaching all of the highway nodes before your planets get overrun.

So I have to them and destroy the fleets there?

[danm_45]

Originally posted by car21lou:

Originally posted by danm_45:

It looks possible, but you will need a lot of massive fleets. The hardest part seems to be reaching all of the highway nodes before your planets get overrun.

So I have to them and destroy the fleets there?

It has been a while but I think you need to send a science ship after the defending fleet is destroyed at each highway node. It is a race before every colony gets assimilated, as defending is hopeless. I don't know if there is another step afterwards, I got assimilated before finishing.

[trapani2]

I always fail at the Borg mission. The 2nd enemy wave is over 20 strength and I can't handle it at the time it comes. Then the wave comes at the end and all of a sudden everyone is Borg. I think the mission itself needs a nerf or the wave that comes at the end should be beatable somehow (which it currently is not)

[bratacsga]

Originally posted by trapani2:

I always fail at the Borg mission. The 2nd enemy wave is over 20 strength and I can't handle it at the time it comes. Then the wave comes at the end and all of a sudden everyone is Borg. I think the mission itself needs a nerf or the wave that comes at the end should be beatable somehow (which it currently is not)

But they keep telling us "Resistance is futile" ;)

[bratacsga]

Hmm, that's two games in a row where despite avoiding all the potential Highway Nodes like the plague, not doing missions for minor powers in case they send me to one, and not researching the tech to use the blasted things, that the first part of the Borg chain has triggered on or near the game's duration hitting the century mark (June 30th 2445, so a few months short of a full century).

Has anyone managed to get it even later?

[BobbyGun]

In the end, each of your fleets should also be 10k+ strong. Take a few of them and crush the borg.

[lord_locksley]

As far as I know, it IS designed to be nearly unbeatable. The proper way of completing this event is by using Janeway during the first contact to upload the virus, then the endgame event will be much easier.

But if you fail that, the Borg will come full force and... well, resistance is futile you know. ;)

If you're unable to complete Janeway's event, you better win by diplomatic condition before the Borg returns, circa 2500 or so.

If you reach 2500 anyway, you *must* be extremely well prepared. And by this, I mean all relevant tech tree researched, and you must have a well prepared staging area right next to EACH single highway node (all of them), with at the very least two fleets on each staging area, preferably three. That's about 20 fleets to create and maintain. You will have to develop an insanely strong economy to support this, and pick the right choices on edicts, policies and traditions.

Anything less is almost guaranteed to fail on the endgame event. Because it's supposed to be that way.

Also. Never ever rely on the AI controlled players to deal with the Borg. They are simply not good at it.

[rku]

Hi, just tried to have the second mission solved when the Borg cube increased in strength instead of going south. My fleets at the start were around three times stronger, after around 30sec, the cube was up from 10k to 18k and my fleets were almost killed...
Is this normal?

[Ace Armstrong]

Originally posted by rku:

Hi, just tried to have the second mission solved when the Borg cube increased in strength instead of going south. My fleets at the start were around three times stronger, after around 30sec, the cube was up from 10k to 18k and my fleets were almost killed...
Is this normal?

Same thing happened to me: when I fired on the Borg, instead of taking damage, they seemed to get stronger. It was like they were taking "negative damage". I think it's a bug. Anyone else noticed this?

[Johnny!]

Originally posted by Ace Armstrong:

Originally posted by rku:

Hi, just tried to have the second mission solved when the Borg cube increased in strength instead of going south. My fleets at the start were around three times stronger, after around 30sec, the cube was up from 10k to 18k and my fleets were almost killed...
Is this normal?

Same thing happened to me: when I fired on the Borg, instead of taking damage, they seemed to get stronger. It was like they were taking "negative damage". I think it's a bug. Anyone else noticed this?

When I fought them, their firepower was going up as their health went down. I feel like this was to imitate the Borg adapting to your weapons as the battle went on. If the Borg's power was increasing but their health wasn't going down, that may be a bug.

[thelebk]

Interesting. I have never been able to use use Janeways virus as it requires a tech called multiple subspace dimensions or some such which I cannot get in the early game when the mission spawns even if I focus all my unity picks on research.

[Calgarian]

So, my Janeway does place the pathogen and I stop the Borg. I usually play with the Federation.

I believe the game is given too much weight to the Borg at this stage.

* I create 10 3.6K fleets.
* I have to be fully focused on the fleet building for like 2 years
* I have to carefully manage alloys and other resources to make sure I don't go negative
* I neglect alliances with other Galaxy super powers
* I neglect integrations on the UFP

I do end up beating the Borg, but it makes the game rather boring because I can't focus on anything else for a LONG time.

Another thing that annoys me: NONE of the other super powers does anything relevant to stop the Borg. Depending on the Highway node they appear, if anyone does anything it's the Cardassians (I know.. The irony, right?)

Can we have a diplomatic "Emergency Forum" to rally the super powers against the Borg?