Star Trek: Infinite

Star Trek: Infinite

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Tapasvi Sep 25, 2023 @ 3:22am
Borg playable faction?
So you won't be able to add all this alien biological and technological distinctiveness to your own...
Boring.
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Sinjen Blackstar Sep 25, 2023 @ 9:29am 
Not in the initial release. The Borg are a late game crisis. This existential threat is seen as something that may force everyone to ally against it to survive.
kingts Sep 25, 2023 @ 6:27pm 
Oh they will milk it for all it's worth.

The Borg DLC- Pay the Borg
The Ferengi DLC-What! did you not hear me, Rule of Pay me!
The Species 8472- The 8472 amount to pay me
The put STO out of business DLC- .....He he they still exist, pay me.
The Strange New Worlds laughing in your face DLC....

and the hits keep on, keeping on!!!
Sigh...:Garrison:
humancalledbob Sep 25, 2023 @ 8:54pm 
Originally posted by kingts:
Oh they will milk it for all it's worth.

The Borg DLC- Pay the Borg
The Ferengi DLC-What! did you not hear me, Rule of Pay me!
The Species 8472- The 8472 amount to pay me
The put STO out of business DLC- .....He he they still exist, pay me.
The Strange New Worlds laughing in your face DLC....

and the hits keep on, keeping on!!!
Sigh...:Garrison:

That's why we keep gaming for 20 to 30 years. I can't even tally how much $ I've spent on games since 1985 starting with intellivision. Not quite a new car but maybe a 57 Chevy.
Tapasvi Sep 26, 2023 @ 1:08am 
Originally posted by kingts:
Oh they will milk it for all it's worth.

The Borg DLC- Pay the Borg
The Ferengi DLC-What! did you not hear me, Rule of Pay me!
The Species 8472- The 8472 amount to pay me
The put STO out of business DLC- .....He he they still exist, pay me.
The Strange New Worlds laughing in your face DLC....

and the hits keep on, keeping on!!!
Sigh...:Garrison:
Well, if it'll go the usual Paradox way, I don't mind. Stellaris is kinda annoying with these DLC, but at the same time, they deliver...
Of course, it only works if devs put a lot of effort in the game. In these DLCs and the base game itself. Not the STO way.
Bufnitza Sep 26, 2023 @ 6:54am 
Anyone who's a fan of Paradox games is very well acquainted with their business model, it is what it is, just like any wow/eve online player is acquainted with paying 160 quid a year for playing the same game, every year.

On top of that, hardcore trekkies specifically have spent a lot more on a lot less, so they'll likely insta-buy each and every DLC.
Last edited by Bufnitza; Sep 26, 2023 @ 6:55am
JimmysTheBestCop Sep 26, 2023 @ 8:23am 
Originally posted by Bufnitza:
Anyone who's a fan of Paradox games is very well acquainted with their business model, it is what it is, just like any wow/eve online player is acquainted with paying 160 quid a year for playing the same game, every year.

On top of that, hardcore trekkies specifically have spent a lot more on a lot less, so they'll likely insta-buy each and every DLC.

This isn't a pdox developed game. The game has it's own devs who are owned by another bigger software house.

This game is for a complete niche market it. Even if successful to the devs I doubt it could ever generate enough sales to have dlc for years.

The only pdox produced game to have non stop dlc was cities skylines. They actually produce a lot of games that have normal to 1 dlc.
The Gravekeeper Sep 26, 2023 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by JimmysTheBestCop:


The only pdox produced game to have non stop dlc was cities skylines. They actually produce a lot of games that have normal to 1 dlc.

Have you never played EU4 or HOI4, the amount of DLC these games have is insane.
Last edited by The Gravekeeper; Sep 26, 2023 @ 8:30am
meanredraptor Sep 26, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
Hmmm tbh not sure about the Borg, they are way too powerful if one ship can destroy whole battle groups just my honest opinion. But they probably will find a way to add them as dlc. lol
JimmysTheBestCop Sep 26, 2023 @ 2:24pm 
Originally posted by The Gravekeeper:
Originally posted by JimmysTheBestCop:


The only pdox produced game to have non stop dlc was cities skylines. They actually produce a lot of games that have normal to 1 dlc.

Have you never played EU4 or HOI4, the amount of DLC these games have is insane.

Those games were created by the in house paradox development studio.

This game is not. It is only produced by paradox.

Huge difference.
Bufnitza Sep 26, 2023 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by JimmysTheBestCop:
Originally posted by The Gravekeeper:

Have you never played EU4 or HOI4, the amount of DLC these games have is insane.

Those games were created by the in house paradox development studio.

This game is not. It is only produced by paradox.

Huge difference.
You're not wrong, but still, I do hope they roll plenty of DLC post-release. It would be a shame to release it and move on. The Trek universe is so rich that I bet they could roll 2 DLC per year for 10 years and still not run out of source material...
JimmysTheBestCop Sep 26, 2023 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by Bufnitza:
Originally posted by JimmysTheBestCop:

Those games were created by the in house paradox development studio.

This game is not. It is only produced by paradox.

Huge difference.
You're not wrong, but still, I do hope they roll plenty of DLC post-release. It would be a shame to release it and move on. The Trek universe is so rich that I bet they could roll 2 DLC per year for 10 years and still not run out of source material...

I severely doubt the game will sell that much to become a DLC power house. And what would then happen is either the devs have to abandon other projects or Paradox contracts out a different devs to do DLC.

All depends on behind the scenes shenanigans.
kingts Sep 26, 2023 @ 3:36pm 
The "I told you so' DLC-pay me!
The Ladies of Star Trek Swimsuit DLC-Sold! Take my money!
:Garrison:
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Syn Sep 27, 2023 @ 4:02pm 
Borg DLC will involve being in command of a whole fleet of hyper-powerful cubes each one of which can individually take on entire fleets as well as billions upon billions of drones capable of assimilating entire worlds within days.

However, you must deal with Captain Janeway at every turn who wields the almighty Plot Hammer as well as the Star Trek Voyager Reset Button(tm).
The former negates all your advantages and forces you as the Borg Queen to make hilariously bad decisions to make Janeway look good including but not limited to failing to send sufficient forces to deal with threats, not using even basic viral screening when assimilating new drones and blowing up your own ships for no reason
The latter instantly reverses and repairs any damage you do manage to do on a regular basis.

Can the Borg overcome the writer's pet?
Last edited by Syn; Sep 27, 2023 @ 4:04pm
kingts Sep 28, 2023 @ 8:55am 
Ok, since no one wants to talk humor of the DLCs fine.

Janeway Swimsuit DLC- Take my...oh wait...

Ok fine!

Any Borg DLC presents a lot of issues, because they are so powerful as a virus hive. To do their faction in a grand strategy, that any timid reduction of their capabilities would be met with division. They would work in game as a Beehive mechanic, a virus that would simply overwhelm the other factions. They would be superior in every way in combat, diplomacy would be a boring irrelevant theme to them, where is the balance. They would plunder resources, their is no need for a tech tree and if you had one, they would explore to enhance vastly superior technology that no other faction could possibly match. They would create deterents, road blocks, but never stopping the borg.
You would have to build such a coalition within the game to balance things that they can simply adapt and overcome.
Why the Borg were never implemented in many games as a faction.

Great in theory, but executing it, not so easy. People demanding Borg be a faction to what, overpower everyone? How powerful they once they start simulating key characters in the game or destroying a key ships and crew. Any victory they gain your tech. I am sorry there is no trill in playing the Borg just to beat everyone else. There would have to be a lot of limitations that I don't think Borg fans would find appealing. One thing to do what BOTF did and have a Borg incursion or face them as a dilemma or growing problem to solve as one of these factions, another to fully implement them into a fair faction. There is no stopping that cascading virus.

Love the Borg all you want, but from a gaming implementation. A lot of issues. :Garrison:
Last edited by kingts; Sep 28, 2023 @ 8:58am
JimmysTheBestCop Sep 28, 2023 @ 9:18am 
I don't think the Borg were overpowered in Trek. It's that the Federation were nerfing themselves or shown to be under powered or shown to be too human centric cause of budget.

I mean the Federation between TNG and future Disco had 150-350 members. And the way they colonized probably thousands and thousands of planets.

But since all the other powers in alpha were mono raced the Federation has self imposed nerf.

Ds9 had the Defiant and projectile rifle. So I see no reason in universe that they couldn't come up with anti Borg tech.

TNG showed the Borg just enough. By Voyager it kind of destroyed it. I've only watched Voyager in its entirety twice. I cannot stomach the show.

There has been no mention of them on disco. Which I barely tolerate.

I'm behind on lower decks, SNW, and Picard. First two I enjoy Picard very mixed feelings.
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