Federation, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians?

[Syn]

Cardassians. Teehee. That's funny.
That'd be like a grand strategy game with the USA, the EU, China and Sealand.

[Legend Damar]

as my picture might suggest I totally disagree ... Cardassia ist what you would today see in India, Brasil or Indonesia. Not as potent as a real superpower but a nightmare to deal with if you have your hands full otherwise ....

[volbound1700]

Cardassia has been the #4 race in most Star Trek games including BOTF and Star Trek Ascendancy. Ferengi is usually #5 and then the Dominion and Breen come after.

Star Trek Conquests also had Cardassians as playable so I would call them a staple race.

[stanmorris]

Ah yes. The modern phenomenon of people complaining about literally everything on the internet.

As Volbound pointed out, the Cardassians have been a staple race in most of the strategy games. It makes sense for them to be in this due to the number of recognizable figures, ships, and the like from the shows. You can also hire a lot actors to voice roles in this.

What other choices are there that are Alpha/Beta Quadrant races?

The Ferengi? They had one ship on the shows and their leader was a goofball who was played by the guy that was the blackjack dealer in Vegas Vacation. Fun, yes and should be in the game in some form, yes, but they're the only other real choice and it makes less sense for a lot of reasons.

The Breen? As fascinating as they were, you couldn't understand anything they said. It would be a nightmare to play an entire game with every word spoken by the computer sounding like a 1980s voice modulator. Everyone looks the same, too.

I can almost guess that someone is thinking of the Borg, too. The Borg make very little sense in a balanced game as an alternative race. They should be a frightening villain to all sentient races. Perhaps a future DLC that reworks the entire game mechanics just for playing them but to be done right, one of their ships needs to be as powerful as 20 or 30 ships of the other races. Otherwise, I don't want them. And oh yeah, they're a Delta Quadrant race.

The Cardassians make the most sense to me out of the options. But my guess is, we will end up getting many more.

[sliver4]

Others will probably be paid dlc

[Bovril Brigadier]

Real question is what incentive is there to play anyone but the Cardassians?
Are you not ready to Make Cardassia Great Again?

[Storm]

I mean the federation and Cardasia had a fairly bloody scrap between 2355 until 2359, also the Dominion War between 2373 to 2375. You can easily argue them as a larger race in the Alpha quadrant.

No doubt we will get the Breen, Borg etc as DLC later down the line.

[coolman20012]

i find the choice of races... very un-insprired and limited. federation, got it. klingons, got it. romulans? ok... cardassians? why? just cos everybody knows them. why not andorians? ferengi? breen? ANYthing thats a bit more creative and maybe a bit more inspring for the player.

[Bufnitza]

Andorians are not a faction, they are a founding member of the Federation.

Ferengi are too limited in gameplay. All they care about is profit, not politics, not conquest, not expansion. They're literally ferocious mysoginist traders. The Cardassians are a much better choice (although it has been hinted on Discord that the Ferengi may be promoted to playable faction in the future).

Breen are cool, but again, too limited. The lore about the Breen is as expansive as a tornado in a glass of water. They'd need to come up with a lot of filler for the Breen Confederacy. Besides, they aren't a major player in the lore.

If you've watched TNG and DS9 then you can't argue that the 4 major powers in the quadrant were the Federation, Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians.

[ashbery76]

DS9 made them important and interesting imo.The new shows forgot about them it seems.

[Bufnitza]

Originally posted by ashbery76:

DS9 made them important imo.The new shows forgot about them it seems.

You're 100% right, but it was stated in DD #1 that they focused expressly on that era and decided to forego the new Treks.

But yeah, in the aftermath of DS9, the Cardassians definitely took a huge blow, as did the Romulans post-hobus. I'm curious how these events will play in ST:I.

[TheStrategyWargamer]

Originally posted by Bufnitza:

Originally posted by ashbery76:

DS9 made them important imo.The new shows forgot about them it seems.

You're 100% right, but it was stated in DD #1 that they focused expressly on that era and decided to forego the new Treks.

But yeah, in the aftermath of DS9, the Cardassians definitely took a huge blow, as did the Romulans post-hobus. I'm curious how these events will play in ST:I.

Hopefully they add content from Star Trek Picard in a future DLC

[20202rick]

Originally posted by Syn:

Cardassians. Teehee. That's funny.
That'd be like a grand strategy game with the USA, the EU, China and Sealand.

I cannot criticize Paradox at all. They had to begin somewhere.

[SDF-7]

Originally posted by Storm:

I mean the federation and Cardasia had a fairly bloody scrap between 2355 until 2359, also the Dominion War between 2373 to 2375. You can easily argue them as a larger race in the Alpha quadrant.

No doubt we will get the Breen, Borg etc as DLC later down the line.

Frankly, I always assumed most of that scrap was because the Federation didn't really care all that much. Primarily fought against incursions / just defensive actions. All part of the Golden Age of Peace from the Khitomer Accords and the Romulans staying quiet until the end of Season 1 of TNG and all. If the Feds really went to war, I don't think the Cardassians would actually stand up to them any better than they did the Klingons in the DS9 timeframe.

[Soccer]

In Strategy games, the ferengi are simply not a military force, only got the Marauder no much canon ships, just Maurauder + shuttles. So Fed / Kli / Rom first.

+ Cardassian OR Dominion. Since Cardassian where in TNG + DS9 and their fit to the time peroid, Cardassian fit better.

Still hope for Dominion later on. In a Trek-Stellaris-Mod, they can replace leader with shape shifter and blow up ships.

Ferengi would add a unique mechanic with commerce focus. Yet they are already in the game as non-player faction. Yet Trek has enought other folks to add.

[volbound1700]

Originally posted by Syn:

Cardassians. Teehee. That's funny.
That'd be like a grand strategy game with the USA, the EU, China and Sealand.

A good comparison in the modern world to Cardassia would be France or Germany. Not New Zealand lol. New Zealand would be like the Bynar or Benzarites or Betazed in comparison.