The awful state of Super Dungeon Maker, a thread

[PLMMJ]

This game is dead. It hasn't received an update for months, and all that the devs have given to us Steam users in that time is a list of level recommendations and some bundle stuff. I feel it's obvious that this game is a cash grab.

[Listoric]

Well, I can't argue with your feelings, but the game is a finished product, not everything is going the route of live services and continued updates. The devs set out to create a game with the scope of what the Kickstarter campaign allowed for and delivered that and more, with all the Kickstarter goals and quite a few extra features as well. It's a fun title that we consider pretty much finished.

We all would have loved to add even more features, DLC or new expansions to the game after launch, but to be blunt the commercial interest isn't there. It's a great game with huge potential, but it didn't make up it's development costs nor any profit from what I can tell.

The genre deserves love though, that's why we do send people over to Quest Master, as they basically pick up where we left and try to add different features to the game. They have a different approach and it might just work. So if you're into creating dungeons and aren't happy with SDM, check them out. We're not affiliated - but we do share a passion.

[PLMMJ]

Originally posted by Listoric:

Well, I can't argue with your feelings, but the game is a finished product, not everything is going the route of live services and continued updates. The devs set out to create a game with the scope of what the Kickstarter campaign allowed for and delivered that and more, with all the Kickstarter goals and quite a few extra features as well. It's a fun title that we consider pretty much finished.

Ah. Well, you probably should've made it clearer that the 1.1 update was the final major update.

[Listoric]

We basically didn't know at the time if it actually is the last update, or if we can do some more. Upcoming events, bundle sales, updates for the Switch and other details made the road ahead a bit foggy. Now we do know that those things didn't have a big enough impact to change course.

Publishers and devs quite often get a bad wrap for "not trying enough", but I can at least tell you that we did try and, as you rightfully pointed out, it might have reflected poorly in our communication. It's something we do look into though, also due to feedback like yours, so everyone involved is better in the loop in future projects.

[PLMMJ]

Originally posted by Listoric:

We basically didn't know at the time if it actually is the last update, or if we can do some more. Upcoming events, bundle sales, updates for the Switch and other details made the road ahead a bit foggy. Now we do know that those things didn't have a big enough impact to change course.

Publishers and devs quite often get a bad wrap for "not trying enough", but I can at least tell you that we did try and, as you rightfully pointed out, it might have reflected poorly in our communication. It's something we do look into though, also due to feedback like yours, so everyone involved is better in the loop in future projects.

Got it

[Moonlight]

Originally posted by PLMMJ:

Originally posted by Listoric:

We basically didn't know at the time if it actually is the last update, or if we can do some more. Upcoming events, bundle sales, updates for the Switch and other details made the road ahead a bit foggy. Now we do know that those things didn't have a big enough impact to change course.

Publishers and devs quite often get a bad wrap for "not trying enough", but I can at least tell you that we did try and, as you rightfully pointed out, it might have reflected poorly in our communication. It's something we do look into though, also due to feedback like yours, so everyone involved is better in the loop in future projects.

Got it

If you want, you can try out quest master.

[PLMMJ]

Originally posted by Moonlight:

Originally posted by PLMMJ:

Got it

If you want, you can try out quest master.

Click on my profile. Notice I have 90 hours in it? Go to its discussions. Notice how I've made dozens of posts?

[Moonlight]

Originally posted by PLMMJ:

Originally posted by Moonlight:

If you want, you can try out quest master.

Click on my profile. Notice I have 90 hours in it? Go to its discussions. Notice how I've made dozens of posts?

I didn't notice. Sorry.

[Moonlight]

Originally posted by PLMMJ:

Originally posted by Moonlight:

If you want, you can try out quest master.

Click on my profile. Notice I have 90 hours in it? Go to its discussions. Notice how I've made dozens of posts?

Tho the games didn't show up in your profile.

[PLMMJ]

Originally posted by Moonlight:

Originally posted by PLMMJ:

Click on my profile. Notice I have 90 hours in it? Go to its discussions. Notice how I've made dozens of posts?

Tho the games didn't show up in your profile.

It does to me

[Moonlight]

Originally posted by PLMMJ:

Originally posted by Moonlight:

Tho the games didn't show up in your profile.

It does to me

Well at least you have quest master. :)

[Kitty Trouble]

Originally posted by rokaplay:

Your top recommended features 😱

Since we cleaned up the whole feedback/bug board, we have now for you the Top 10 requested features, who knows maybe some of them will make it into the game 😉

Bow and arrow
Lamp
Coins
Themes changeable per floor
One way doors
Teleporting
A sign should point in one direction
Elevated Floors
In the builder: Select and move areas / enable copy&paste.
Enemies should drop items

Is your favorite feature also in the top 10?

I feel like this post was very manipulative and that we should have hopes for some of these things to be added (only one was, coins). The game should have never been considered released. That seems like a cop out of finishing the game, and it tells people what to expect from early access from rokaplay going forward. I personally won't ever trust rokaplay for early access games in the future. I'm not trying to be mean here, but it seems like minimal effort could add some of this stuff in... Give me a week and the source code and I could have several of these things coded and I'll do it for free.

[PLMMJ]

Originally posted by Kitty Trouble:

I'm not trying to be mean here, but it seems like minimal effort could add some of this stuff in... Give me a week and the source code and I could have several of these things coded and I'll do it for free.

I agree with the rest of your message, but that last part sounds a little manipulative.

[Kitty Trouble]

It's a legitimate offer, but I don't think that they would accept due to being a big company and all.

[Mutant Overlord]

The awful state of lame "dead game" posting, a comment

Not everything is a live service video game, OP.
This is a single player game.

Stop acting like a jester and simple accept that - especially in term of indie games.
This was never promised to be a 10 year old running game.

You litteraly gave this game a negative review after 40 of in game hours simple because you expected to have more content added to the game.
The game is not even as buggy as you are stating. Nothing but tons of false information in your review.

Seriously, what is wrong with you?

[Moonlight]

Originally posted by Mutant Overlord:

The awful state of lame "dead game" posting, a comment

Not everything is a live service video game, OP.
This is a single player game.

Stop acting like a jester and simple accept that - especially in term of indie games.
This was never promised to be a 10 year old running game.

You litteraly gave this game a negative review after 40 of in game hours simple because you expected to have more content added to the game.
The game is not even as buggy as you are stating. Nothing but tons of false information in your review.

Seriously, what is wrong with you?

I mean I enjoyed the game. However, I wasn't happy with the lack of gizmos. They had the number of themes good. I just feel they could have at least balanced between themes and new dungeon parts. Though I never had any bugs, It does not mean they are wrong. I mean its not proven to me that it has bugs. But that what the majority of the people are saying.

Another thing is that there is Quest Master. A game that is constantly being updated. They are both $20. So I would understand why people would rather pay for Quest Master than this game.

We just have to accept that this game wasted its potential. And for the people who still like this game. Im sure the community is still out there making dungeons for this game.