Sadism build

[Mad]

So yeah this is not working for me. I like the game nevertheless so it says something but this feel way too random, aimed to make the character fail or not.

Normal difficulty, sadism build so I invest only in strength, I either overpower or suddenly lose all my stam, then it's a weird up and down until you can't get up. Too much rely on luck.

My character is only 5% tired, not horny at all, I quickly dispatch all my opponents, I taunt when I need to I mean I'm really trying to make it work then suddenly a dude come out of nowhere and in 2 turns, often after boosting up but not even always, make me lose 500 staminas. Nothing I can do, just bam.

What the ♥♥♥♥ am I missing.

[Kasiornis]

I personally think that Sadism works great with Mind-focused build. If you make enemies finish on the floor I think 10 times you get a passive, which raises the requirement of Cck Desire for enemies to finish on her, depending on your Sadism level. Since you naturally raise Sadism high through related activities - HJ, TJ, FJ - they'll never be able to do that at all, keeping her free from some stat-lowering passives as well.
And high Mind will help you to keep your desires in check so the enemies won't go for any other bodyparts either.

It's a bit tricky IMO, but worked 3 floors for me just fine. Then I got tired again since it's like my 7th playthrough and left it as it is, so never checked if it actually able to finish the game.

[Mad]

that would explain why previous runs with mind upgrades were more stables. Thank you.

[Mad]

nope doesn't change a thing it's even worst. I tried a normal build and you just lose control all the time it's boring.

I lost all my stam at a buffed up attack on my second fight lol. There was nothing else happening.

Anything but a slut build rely solely on luck.

[gamesarray]

My only thoughts on this is be prepared to escape from a fight, building defeat passives is bad.

[Mad]

Originally posted by gamesarray:

My only thoughts on this is be prepared to escape from a fight, building defeat passives is bad.

and I tried but once it kept putting me back down the second I tried to get up. There was nothing to do. And you just insta go down so the moment one buff you have to flee? Boring the game just started.

I would reload and the fight would probably be ok. It is just that random.

[gamesarray]

Originally posted by Mad:

Originally posted by gamesarray:

My only thoughts on this is be prepared to escape from a fight, building defeat passives is bad.

and I tried but once it kept putting me back down the second I tried to get up. There was nothing to do. And you just insta go down so the moment one buff you have to flee? Boring the game just started.

I would reload and the fight would probably be ok. It is just that random.

Yes, it's not always possible. If you get a few big hits early on it's worth backing off early, but as you say it can be random

[Morituri]

I did my sadism build through mind dex oddly enough, on prisoner mode. Cleave early game to raise both stam and dex consistently. By floor 2 you allocate more edicts for mind (to keep non sadist stat desires low). Since you have a lot of dex/stam stat, you don't get one shot by thugs and if you go sexual, one HJ can knock down any opponent.

I branched after floor 3 to go high mind -- because of reality marble. With proper planning, you get 99 charm max, so you can just spam both "no evil" to keep desires to the lowest + reality marble every turn.

Low desires + 300++ charm (because of reality marble) = enemies jack off to death and you dont get touched at all so no desire gain. I think I finished my run with 450 mind (overkill)

BTW, I only did sadist passives through jobs, HJ VJ in bathroom, TJ in gym, occasional solo mob with FJ. Most of the times it was through combat (cleave) or no evil + reality marble

I did this same build again to get the holy empress ending (just avoided the jobs). So it works

[Mad]

Originally posted by Morituri:

I did my sadism build through mind dex oddly enough, on prisoner mode. Cleave early game to raise both stam and dex consistently. By floor 2 you allocate more edicts for mind (to keep non sadist stat desires low). Since you have a lot of dex/stam stat, you don't get one shot by thugs and if you go sexual, one HJ can knock down any opponent.

I branched after floor 3 to go high mind -- because of reality marble. With proper planning, you get 99 charm max, so you can just spam both "no evil" to keep desires to the lowest + reality marble every turn.

Low desires + 300++ charm (because of reality marble) = enemies jack off to death and you dont get touched at all so no desire gain. I think I finished my run with 450 mind (overkill)

BTW, I only did sadist passives through jobs, HJ VJ in bathroom, TJ in gym, occasional solo mob with FJ. Most of the times it was through combat (cleave) or no evil + reality marble

I did this same build again to get the holy empress ending (just avoided the jobs). So it works

and I believe you but it never works for me. After a few fights bam stam disappear, stay down, kicked back, lose all energy and get kidnapped. It never happened to you? Like super early after 2 rounds or when everything is going perfectly fine then you just lose.

[Morituri]

Originally posted by Mad:

Originally posted by Morituri:

I did my sadism build through mind dex oddly enough, on prisoner mode. Cleave early game to raise both stam and dex consistently. By floor 2 you allocate more edicts for mind (to keep non sadist stat desires low). Since you have a lot of dex/stam stat, you don't get one shot by thugs and if you go sexual, one HJ can knock down any opponent.

I branched after floor 3 to go high mind -- because of reality marble. With proper planning, you get 99 charm max, so you can just spam both "no evil" to keep desires to the lowest + reality marble every turn.

Low desires + 300++ charm (because of reality marble) = enemies jack off to death and you dont get touched at all so no desire gain. I think I finished my run with 450 mind (overkill)

BTW, I only did sadist passives through jobs, HJ VJ in bathroom, TJ in gym, occasional solo mob with FJ. Most of the times it was through combat (cleave) or no evil + reality marble

I did this same build again to get the holy empress ending (just avoided the jobs). So it works

and I believe you but it never works for me. After a few fights bam stam disappear, stay down, kicked back, lose all energy and get kidnapped. It never happened to you? Like super early after 2 rounds or when everything is going perfectly fine then you just lose.

Super early on, you need the halberd upgrade (so you can effectively deal with thugs) + avoid fighting groups with thugs (bar room, room below the washing machine room). You can focus fighting basic prisoners + goblin composition until you get around 1.5K - 2K stamina.

It helps if you have titles that avoid you getting unnecessary stats, like kinky masochist (endurance+ str-, agi-) so you gain endurance (which adds some stamina), and not str/agi if you want to focus dex. Thugs hit superhard early game, so you should avoid them till you reach your level cap if you want to play safe.

[Tomcat]

Str is the worst stat build in this game but you can still beat the game if you know what you are doing.


There's alot of issues that I can probably guess.

If you are trying to fight thugs on level 1 without the thug debuff that you get on level 2, you will lose lots of stamina. You only want to fight thugs when you have to, like in the first boss fight.

Maybe you aren't upgrading your bed and using that?

Maybe you aren't using the accessory that gives stamina regen which is essential for combat builds.


"Sadism" build is really just using anything to hurt. Mind works for everything but you then focus on either Mind str, or mind dex, etc.


Mind is important because it gives you more willpower to lower desires. If you let your desires go too high, they all have different debuffs. Mouse over them to see what it is. Over 50, you will start hitting like crap, or getting hit hard.


It could be other issues too. Depending on what edicts you pick.



There's also specific challenging spots in each level, and it's designed that way until you figure it out. One example of challenging spot is in Level 2 would be the thug/ninja room after the slime room for example.

[Mad]

alright it's all good suggestions thank you very much guys. It also complete what I've read in some guides and suggestions in forums.