GNOSIA
Punchy Jan 23, 2022 @ 2:01pm
Loyal Follower Achievement
"Won while playing as an AC Follower and announcing your role under unfavorable conditions"

Does anyone know what this achievement actually wants you to do? I've won multiple games as an AC Follower while announcing my role but that hasn't triggered it, I'm unsure what would constitute "unfavourable conditions" for this achievement
Originally posted by BriTankie:
Game rules: 6 people, 1 gnosia, 1 engineer, 1 ac follower. Reveal yourself as an engineer, dispose of the true one, win the game.
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If I remember correctly from playing on Switch, this is something you'll do during the plot.
HAWAIIANpikachu Jan 24, 2022 @ 8:38am 
it seems like to me you have to be known as the ac follower while winning? I can only guess from the context but there's no clear way of knowing if it's plot related or gameplay related.
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
BriTankie Jan 24, 2022 @ 10:57am 
Game rules: 6 people, 1 gnosia, 1 engineer, 1 ac follower. Reveal yourself as an engineer, dispose of the true one, win the game.
Punchy Jan 24, 2022 @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by מכֶּתֶר‎ל מלכות:
Game rules: 6 people, 1 gnosia, 1 engineer, 1 ac follower. Reveal yourself as an engineer, dispose of the true one, win the game.

This did the trick, thanks!
shtanko Jan 25, 2022 @ 8:23am 
Hey, I got this playing with full 15 crew, 3 gnosia, everyone except bug. I immediately claimed doctor and played normally. I don't know what unfavorable conditions are. I was almost hanged couple days, maybe that's it.
BriTankie Jan 25, 2022 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by shtanko:
I don't know what unfavorable conditions are.
I'm pretty sure that unfavorable conditions means claiming the role while the real deal is still alive. Seems like it is the only truth.
Shiki Feb 13, 2022 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by 🏳️‍🌈MAP rights:
Game rules: 6 people, 1 gnosia, 1 engineer, 1 ac follower. Reveal yourself as an engineer, dispose of the true one, win the game.
Worked for me, thanks!
Xaneorath Feb 18, 2022 @ 5:55am 
Originally posted by 🏳️‍🌈MAP rights:
Originally posted by shtanko:
I don't know what unfavorable conditions are.
I'm pretty sure that unfavorable conditions means claiming the role while the real deal is still alive. Seems like it is the only truth.

Nope, this isnt it.
I tried:
15 people, 6 Gnosia, Engineer, Doctor, Angel, Bug and Follower.
I thought "unfavorable conditions" would be "4 people claiming the same role" (its as unfavorable as putting a "freeze all"-sign right in front of you ... as Yuriko did agree but luckily in my case others didnt. ;)
So .. I claimed the role when 3 others did (which had to be: the original, 1 gnosia and the bug). Still won the game, but still no achievement.
So its certainly not about the original being still alive. At least not as the only trigger.
Last edited by Xaneorath; Feb 18, 2022 @ 5:56am
Xaneorath Feb 21, 2022 @ 8:12am 
Eh, I dont really think the pinned answer answers the (interesting) initial question and only tells which settings to set for getting the achievement. (I used those settings now too to get them, and they work)
Id still be curious why those (actualy quite favourable) conditions are considered as "unfavorable conditions" though. More unfavourable than revealing yourself as 4th role. ;)

But oh well, if the OP is fine with the answer. *shrug*
HAWAIIANpikachu Feb 21, 2022 @ 8:17am 
I think the unfavorable condition is being confirmed AC/evil and still surviving to the end. Which is the easiest to set up in smaller situation.
Xaneorath Feb 21, 2022 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by HAWAIIANpikachu:
I think the unfavorable condition is being confirmed AC/evil and still surviving to the end. Which is the easiest to set up in smaller situation.

Oh, alright, that may be the case.
In the example where I claimed 4th engineer as AC follower and won, I was pretty much considered the real engineer in the end. (while the others got frozen/removed)
That would explain why I didn't get the achievement there, if its truly about being confirmed evil in the end. Thanks.
HAWAIIANpikachu Feb 21, 2022 @ 10:30am 
Yeah, that's not really an unfavorable situation (unless you're so good at faking Engineer you look real and the Gnosia kill you)

I imagine it has to be, as that's the only real 'unfavorable' situation that could exist
Xaneorath Feb 21, 2022 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by HAWAIIANpikachu:
Yeah, that's not really an unfavorable situation (unless you're so good at faking Engineer you look real and the Gnosia kill you)

I imagine it has to be, as that's the only real 'unfavorable' situation that could exist

hmm... discussable, at least.
When thinking what might be that "unfavourable situation" I thought of the "4th man to claim role"-situation as the most unfavourable thing that can happen. Quite honestly: I dont see why anyone would not want to freeze all in that case, to simultaneously get rid of one Gnosia, the Bug and the AC follower (while losing the own engineer). With a high amount of Gnosia it might be disadvantageous yes (because you eliminate 3 human characters for 1 Gnosia), but then again: You can always do the freeze all after you are certain 1 or 2 Gnosia were frozen. Besides, the Bug and AC will probably mess up things more than its worth to keep em around.
On the other hand: Being known as enemy (but AC) is actualy not that unfavourable at all. Especialy if the real engineer confirmed you are human. Why would the humans freeze you then, if they can just ignore you? And why should the Gnosia eliminate you, if they could eliminate another human who might endanger them?
... so: I cannot agree on the "only real unfavourable situation".
I still think it might be the correct trigger for the achievements though.
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