Planet of Lana

Planet of Lana

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DeLindsay 26 mai. 2023 às 4:26
(SPOILER) Can we discuss the Story now?
I just finished the game and I think I figured everything out about the who/what/why/etc but I'd like others' opinions as well. Here's my take:

Lana (the Character, not the Planet) is Human and descendant of Earth Humans but likely she knows nothing of Earth. Humans created Robots and then AI while on Earth. At some point the AI started a War with us and try as we might to fight back, we failed. Our last attempt to save our species was to leave the Planet in search of a new home, away from the revolting AI. I say the revolting AI because we clearly brought SOME Robots and AI with us on the journey, including one of the Ship's Officers.

We arrived at Planet Lana and made our home (where the Factory area is at the end of the game). Gradually over time we left our life of Technology and learned to live a simpler life, a Hunter-Gatherer type of existence.

This is where it kind of gets ambiguous. Did we HAVE to leave all that tech behind/dormant BECAUSE it was a beacon for the rogue AI to find us? Which of course they did find us in the end. Also, Mui's "species" being AI/Robots threw me for a loop. I was dead ass crying when he/she/it sacrificed themself to save us.

Also, the bracelet Lana gets clearly controls the good AI (white ring) so was the uprising caused by a virus within the AI or did it simply fracture into different "Species" where some AI was content to live alongside Humans while the colored ring AI wanted Humans dead/enslaved?
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Iido 16 jun. 2023 às 15:48 
I really got the impression in the end that the robots were not necessarily hostile towards humans or the planet. They're very hostile towards Lana for some reason, but everyone else, they simply captured, brought to the main ship, and placed in rooms that seemed quite comfortable, even with beds. Plus, the whole area where the humans were kept was quite beautiful, like a sanctuary of sorts. Plus, it was very gentle with the babies as well, seemingly bathing them in that one room.

It's hard to say what the AI had planned, but perhaps it really did have humanity's best interest in mind. The point of the story may be though, that even if the robots wanted to give humanity a better life, it still wouldn't be the life that Lana and the people of her village knew. For better or worse, they were content with the simple life they had and did not want that to change.
MarioFanaticXV 16 jun. 2023 às 16:14 
I don't think the robots kill Lana in any of the game over sequences- I assume she would just be captured and imprisoned like the others. To what point and purpose? I can't say- but I think it's clear that they don't intend to kill humans, at least. If I had to guess, they intend "to serve and obey and guard men from harm" in a manner that treats humanity as eternal children at best and prisoners when being more honest, a la The Humanoids.
MaxNChachi 16 jun. 2023 às 17:50 
Originalmente postado por Typheus:
We also don't even know if that was "lethal" force. It could have just been some crazy shock/stun weapons. If it knocks someone out cold so fast that they faceplant into the ground, we'd have no way of knowing if it killed or not.

I'm pretty sure this is what happens. After all, when Mui is captured, they get taken away alive. I think all the weapons are stun weapons, and the idea is that Lana and Mui are captured, thus unable to continue their journey.
ddn 17 jun. 2023 às 23:14 
Mui Is a robot created by ancestors. It seems clear to me. Their race of cat/robot is that one that can control the dangerous animals of the planet and the robots. They were created in this likeness to blend with local animals to protect humans, and they were instructed to answer to children and music. They probably were instructed so, to empathize with children. We can see this in the old pictures found at the old man "house". Also, i told mui is a robot for two reasons: it hasn't be killed by the machines as the other animals, with the meat grinder, since the system recognizes as not alive. Also, in the ending, when it shutdown the whole system, all the robots in the planet "die" or "asleeps", and so Mui. After Lana sang it comes to a new life, as it happened with the machine at old man's house. ah, we can also clearly see electrical thunderbolts passing through mui.
Última alteração por ddn; 17 jun. 2023 às 23:18
GinjaNinja 20 jun. 2023 às 1:01 
The big sphere at the end appears to be the back half of the ship that crashed. It appears to contain the facilities necessary to incubate and repopulate generations during the voyage and after. (Hence the fetus icon inside the ship symbol when seen in the caves paintings) As others have said it appears to be the automated systems taking it's directive to protect it's humans to a logical extreme when not controlled by devices like the bracelet. We even see a microcosm example of this in the infant room with the robot arms continuously picking up the wandering infants and placing them back into the center. When finally approaching the sphere it appears to have been there for a long time based on the barren landscape and it's condition, and the conveyor-belt of animals being turned into nutrient paste. (likely a bit of commentary on the toll it takes on a planet to support everyone?) The idea of the sphere being part of the original ship appears to be supported by the progression of paintings seen in the front half of the ship crash, the last captain being a robot implying the eldest among them have passed and only younger generations still exist, also supported by the school photos. We also see in the crashed ship the symbols for the escape pods and then later see some of those escape pods as huts implying there were non-infant humans aboard prior to the crash. And the star-map of the journey cuts out right before they reach the planet. I think the Sphere being the last bastion of hope in case the worst happened was probably the most shielded and protected and could survive the crash landing. After that generations later it appears we see it has been in the distance enacting emergency protocols etc. As for Mui, the amulet and the bracelet those all appear to be previously used devices. Even Mui appears to have been a companion droid linked via the bracelet.
All in all I loved this story for it's weaving and it's mystery. Love all these theories. Thank you Wishfully for a total gem. Studio Ghibli would be proud.
Última alteração por GinjaNinja; 20 jun. 2023 às 1:52
Brick 5 jul. 2023 às 5:53 
This thread's discussions are truly engaging! Let's sum up the theories about the game's plot.

  • Lana, the protagonist, is of Earth human descent and living on a new planet. AI and humans were originally coexisting, but at some point, there was an uprising.

  • Lana's people chose to live a simpler, more primitive lifestyle. This lifestyle change was brought into question, leading to speculation that it might have been forced due to the need to hide from rogue AI.

  • Some believe the AI went rogue not originally on Earth, but during the voyage to Novo. It's suggested that humans tried to turn off the AI on Novo, or during their voyage to Novo, leading some robots to rebel and imprison the humans.

  • Probably — and this is my take — a few robots / robot species (like the dragon pigs, and the cave spiders) went the "wild" way, free from the control of the aforementioned rogue AI; and as a consequence we see them getting crushed in the penultimate chapter.

  • Some players think that the AI was not evil but protective, collecting and caring for humans, albeit holding them in "prison-like" conditions.

  • Some theories propose that both robots and humans were victims, suggesting that a journey between Earth and the new planet resulted in a catastrophe that caused humanity to regress to a technology-free primitive state.

  • The theory of robots capturing but not killing Lana and her people suggests the robots may have had more benevolent intentions. It's suggested that the robots may have been attempting to improve the humans' quality of life, even though it was different from the life they knew.

  • Mui-like robot cats, are believed by some to have been created by the ancestors to protect humans and control dangerous animals and robots. Their evident, and preferred interactions with children might hint at their programming to empathize with the younger generation.

Overall, it seems the consensus is that the AI's and robots' actions are a result of their interpretation of their directive to protect humans, possibly taken to an extreme level in the absence of proper control. Undoubtedly, the debates about the motives of the AI, the nature of Mui-like creatures, and the journey of Lana and her people add rich depth to the game's plot and narrative.
Última alteração por Brick; 5 jul. 2023 às 5:56
andrew_geers 4 ago. 2023 às 3:39 
Here's my take on it - I put my thoughts together in a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD7KIQDHqOc
Dedelblute3 8 ago. 2023 às 13:47 
Originalmente postado por Brick:
This thread's discussions are truly engaging! Let's sum up the theories about the game's plot.

  • Lana, the protagonist, is of Earth human descent and living on a new planet. AI and humans were originally coexisting, but at some point, there was an uprising.

  • Lana's people chose to live a simpler, more primitive lifestyle. This lifestyle change was brought into question, leading to speculation that it might have been forced due to the need to hide from rogue AI.

  • Some believe the AI went rogue not originally on Earth, but during the voyage to Novo. It's suggested that humans tried to turn off the AI on Novo, or during their voyage to Novo, leading some robots to rebel and imprison the humans.

  • Probably — and this is my take — a few robots / robot species (like the dragon pigs, and the cave spiders) went the "wild" way, free from the control of the aforementioned rogue AI; and as a consequence we see them getting crushed in the penultimate chapter.

  • Some players think that the AI was not evil but protective, collecting and caring for humans, albeit holding them in "prison-like" conditions.

  • Some theories propose that both robots and humans were victims, suggesting that a journey between Earth and the new planet resulted in a catastrophe that caused humanity to regress to a technology-free primitive state.

  • The theory of robots capturing but not killing Lana and her people suggests the robots may have had more benevolent intentions. It's suggested that the robots may have been attempting to improve the humans' quality of life, even though it was different from the life they knew.

  • Mui-like robot cats, are believed by some to have been created by the ancestors to protect humans and control dangerous animals and robots. Their evident, and preferred interactions with children might hint at their programming to empathize with the younger generation.

Overall, it seems the consensus is that the AI's and robots' actions are a result of their interpretation of their directive to protect humans, possibly taken to an extreme level in the absence of proper control. Undoubtedly, the debates about the motives of the AI, the nature of Mui-like creatures, and the journey of Lana and her people add rich depth to the game's plot and narrative.
That was the most beautiful comment I have ever seen on a steam discussions thread, hands down - it summarized the entire thread just perfectly and concisely. Wow. I'm amazed.
Brick 9 ago. 2023 às 7:38 
Originalmente postado por Dedelblute3:
That was the most beautiful comment I have ever seen on a steam discussions thread, hands down - it summarized the entire thread just perfectly and concisely. Wow. I'm amazed.

Thank you so much for your sweet and kind words, and the award! :) :tunicheart:
Teal V2 30 ago. 2023 às 22:09 
Sheesh, why this discussion stopped?

I wanted to read more about the background of this game.

After reading all those, I now even wonder why players believe the wildlife were actually robots, like the boar and even spiders?
I don't remember seeing any references them being robotics.

They rather seemed to be normal animals, hence being ground to food (I also believe they were made into nutrient paste).
If they were robots, then why the cat was spared? As some others have mentioned, (and I totally agree with), cat was taken away cuz it was not "food source". You don't like finding mechanical parts in your morning can, do you? :HFR_Sigh:

I also miss the theorizing about the musical notes robots tend to use.
It might be just me, but the song they play when "evil" sounds very similar to the song the boy plays to turn them braindead controllable units. (except for the horse, it is not braindead).
The "evil" note sounds off, but it wants to be the same. Like it having overtones and it becomes distortic.

There is no word about those floating drones and their control stations either, while I believe it is also very interesting. Autonomous drones do not need a control station nearby and yet, our boy (or girl, no idea) often "hacks" those drones through them.

I wanted to know more. I'm a sucker of mysterious sci-fi stories.
But the game is too bland for me to play by myself. I was watching a full gameplay on youtube.
darek 10 nov. 2023 às 5:59 
I dont think that there was a war, its the "paper-clip maximizer" but robots are suposed to care for humans - and they take it too seriously, even against humans will.
Última alteração por darek; 10 nov. 2023 às 6:03
Qybat 7 dez. 2023 às 13:56 
I can't help noticing that the 'planet' of Lana is, more precisely, a moon.
Rayjack 9 dez. 2023 às 18:33 
Man open ended games like this are fun, because I got two different reads, both of them different to yours.
I thought that people of Lana (the planet) were an advanced civilization, and chose to make the voyage to another habitable planet. Maybe because of some sort of impending disaster on their home planet. Since this is probably over a span of light years in distance and centuries in time, they can't contact with the home planet. Then, either a) something happens to the ship right at the end of it's voyage and the AI does the only thing it knows to do, go back to the original planet and collect more people for another attempt. Or b) the voyage is a success, and the members of the new planet sent their ship back to collect the rest of Lana(the planet)'s population, not knowing the disaster had either been averted or survived.
I'll admit neither of these ideas account for how the people of Lana(the planet) backslid from holograms and technology to wooden huts built on stilts above the water though, so your take probably makes more sense.
Gwynnie 10 dez. 2023 às 20:45 
Qybat is right, this is set on a moon. It makes me wonder if the planet in the background at the open was actually the intended destination for the colony ship. Something happened to the ship and it crashed on the moon instead. We see robots with baby skeletons in their arms - from this we can surmise that there were no adult humans on the ship, because if there were, why would they leave a baby, even a dead one, with a robot? The robots raised the babies into adults and eventually those adults formed civilizations like in the game. Early generations may have had info on how to fish or build houses, etc. but they can't control holograms and technology without a power source, and the ship that crashed was clearly out of power. The people had to move on. I also don't think the animals are robots. They're just hypnotized by light, we see it several times in lots of difference species. Mui is the only sus one. But where are the other monkey cats? There are balls with eyes hanging from various trees and rock ceilings and stuff at the beginning of the game, and I suspect these are just hanging Mui's. They don't necessarily need to be robotic, just genetically engineered to interface with human technology.
Qybat 12 dez. 2023 às 14:24 
Here is what I put together.

1. The ship departed a planet that is clearly Earth. Reasons unclear, but we know from the shrine murals that it carried humans, robots and mui (a specialised cat-like robot). We can also see that it is a colony ship, likely a generation ship, and carried on board a gene or embryo bank.

2. The ship arrived at the Planet Moon of Lana, also called Novo. There the ship landed - it is unclear if this was a crash landing or an intentional landing, though the use of escape pods suggests the former. The ship is not intended to be launched again: It's a colony ship. It is made for that one journey. The journey look many years, if not generations, as the ship went through four captains - the final one of which was a robot. This suggests that the ship was increasingly dependent on AI operation.

3. The colonisation was, surprisingly, a success. Humans did what humans do: They spread, they bred, they colonised. Over time though, the people lost their technology. It is not clear if this was something intentional, perhaps motivated by an ideological desire for life closer to nature (humans do love to romanticise the past) or a practical matter of being unable to maintain their technology without advanced infrastructure and manufacturing capabilities.

4. By the events of the game, the humans have adapted to this new world and spread far. The old colony ship is abandoned, either due to crash damage, or from having became uninhabitable without the required technological base for repairs - straw huts are a lot easier to maintain. But it is not abandoned that long ago. There are still elders around who remember a childhood in the ship. Back in those days, merely a number of decades before the events of the game, people still had functional photographic technology, ship clothing, and children were often accompanied by Mui. This suggests that the ship's landing was at most one long lifetime ago. Long enough that the stories children heard from their great-grandparents are starting to become mythology.

5. The Mui. Cat-like, monkey-like, of Earth manufacture. Their function is unclear, but they are evidently made to be highly social, and seen with children. It is possible their function is social, or protective. Mui-tech appears to be as much biological as it is robotic, and while many other 'life'forms delivered to the world share a similar technological base, only the Mui appear intelligent. Indeed, they have command authority over the other bio-robotic life. There aren't many left though - they came along on the ship, and while the ship-born were raised with many Mui, population growth and the attrition of time have taken their toll now: There just aren't enough Mui left.

6. And that brings us to the robots. Where are they from? They share technology with the ship, so they must be of Earth origin. They are not damaged, suggesting that they were not on the ship when it landed - perhaps another part of the mission, one which arrived slightly late. They are, though, not actually hostile: They never use lethal force against humans, and go to extreme lengths to keep the humans from harm. Though they are not that big on freedom either. They appear to be simply malfunctioning - most likely following a directive to protect humans taken to an extreme. If the ship were intact, perhaps stopping them would be a simple matter of an officer asserting command authority - but with much technological knowledge lost, the machines cannot be shut down. I could theorise, though I have little to back it up, that the robots were intended to be the heavy machinery of the colonisation project and their absence in the decades post-landing is the reason for the loss of technology.

7. Lana may not know a lot about technology, but the old man gave them some advice. Perhaps the single most important piece of advice in tech support: Try turning it off and on again. Lana is able to infiltrate the core of one of their mobile habitat-complexes, and turn it off. That's about all Lana can do alone though.

8. Mui, however? Mui is an artificial creation. And Mui is OLD. Mui are of Earth manufacture - our cute little sidekick is probably centuries in age. And while a Mui may look like a cross between a monkey and a cat, they are artificially intelligent and know how to operate this old tech. A Mui can do more than push buttons. All our Mui needed was access to the core of the machines, and Lana's assistance forcing a reboot. I believe that Mui's apparent 'death' was nothing off the sort: It was an upload. It was Mui, not Lana, who fixed the machines. I might speculate that this is because the Mui, being created as highly social companion creatures, are engineered with a high level of empathy. Or perhaps bio-robotic brains are less dogmatic in their programming than the mechanical minds of the purely robotic. Either way, Mui are sophisticated enough to understand that helping humans means more than keeping them safe from physical danger.

8b. Mui, like the machine core, needs to go offline for a brief time to carry out this repair. Just long enough to give Lana quite the scare!

9. With the reboot providing the required opportunity, and physical access to the machine core, Mui sets right the errant programming. Either by giving the robots the knowledge to reconsider their actions, or overwriting their programming with its own. It clearly interfaced with the ship's core during the reboot process. With the robots thus enlightened (forcefully) they free the humans and become very cooperative, assisting humans in developing their new planet moon. It is quite possible that this assistance was their original purpose, had things gone entirely as planned.

Conclusion: This isn't Lana saving the day. This is the Mui the Engineer, and their human sidekick.
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