vs FF7 Remake

[Lone WOLF]

Hey folks - I am a new to FF7 series and just have finished playing FF7 Remake, which I enjoyed. Now I am thinking whether this Crisis Core Remaster is worth my time. How would you compare this game with the remake of FF7 Original part 1, on a standalone basis? What's your rate of this game if FF7R is, let's say 10/10? Please forget the connectivity and just focus on each game on a standalone basis.

I usually don't buy remaster games as most of those games are somehow outdated in terms of combat system etc. Especially in this case I didn't play the original PSP game so I would not have any nostalgy that can cover up the detriment, if any.

Please advice!

[Tr0w]

FF7R blows this game out of the water, as do all of the mainline FF games.
With Crisis Core 90% of the game is the same copy/paste missions.

[Sharticus:DestroyerOfToilets]

Both are absolute dogsh!t and shouldn't exist.

[shmamlet]

Damn you are both so helpful.
My guy the original game was from PSP, so it is limited in scale, and you will surely notice it. The graphics are mostly very similar to FF7R, but it is still a downgrade.

TLDR - gameplay wise it is toned down a bit, but where it does shine is the story. Now that's some good stuff. If that's what you are for then you will surely like it.

[Solyaris]

There's no "FF7 Series". There's one good game that was so well put together that it's a classic (FF7) and a series of derivative byproducts that exists solely to cash in on the fact that FF7 is so beloved.

You won't like this, because people who haven't experienced something like to rationalize that they've "experienced" it, and come up with all sorts of reasons for why, but FF7R has little to do with FF7, in terms of story and tone and characters. It's basically a sequel to Advent Children, which in my opinion is downright idiotic (Advent Children was itself a very disappointing and sloppy byproduct which only appeal was nostalgia for the actual game and story of FF7 that were actually good). They've managed to make a "remake" that was actively unwelcoming to newcomers, which is quite a feat (ie. 'failure').

Play the original game (you know how), or even buy it on Steam, since the PC version is here, and then use the Mod Manager "7th Heaven" to bring it up to modern standards (60FPS, 16:9 aspect ratio, upscaled everything, and what have you). Play that through, and only then will you have experienced FF7.

There's no "FF7 Series", and it is saddening that newcomers especially will play everything, all sorts of derivative byproducts that will spoil them about the story and characters, but will stay away from the actual game. Actual game that is the sole reason all these byproducts even exist in the first place, and which story was never retold and cannot be experienced elsewhere than by playing through the original.

[Cypher Raige]

It's still a PSP game at heart but the combat is massively improved along with the visuals which look a lot closer to FF7R.

The game is about Zack Fair who appears at the end of the Remake.

I would recommend getting this game on sale.

[WhateverWorks]

Crisis Core does a deeper dive into the years leading up to Zack and Cloud parting ways. It gives you a chance to get to know what Sephiroth was like before going mad, and what the legacy of the Buster Sword is. You learn more about why Aerith naturally gravitated to Cloud. You get to know the Turks. It's a good game if you REALLY like the story of FF7. You don't have to do all the side stuff to experience the entire story. The combat is repetitive, and not as fun as FF7 Remake. It's a remaster of a PSP game from like 2008.

[ishiki]

Remake is a much better game in terms of combat, rpg mechanics, music, characters, graphics, quests. Even remakes weaknesses are still better than crisis core.

The only thing, imo that's possibly better in crisis core is the ending. Which is one of my favorite endings ever.
With that said. I still recommend it.

I played the original game in when it released on PC in the 90's.

I rate
FFVII Original Game with Mods- 9.5/10
FFVII Remake - 9.5/10
Crisis Core - Reunion - 7.5/10
Crisis Core (PSP) - 6/10
Dirge of Cerberus -6.5/10
Advent Children - 4/10

[Rinaldus]

If FFVIIR is a 10/10 for you, I'd say this game is a 6/10 with some flashes of brilliance at very key moments.

6/10 isn't a bad game in my eyes. Just kinda middling. Worth playing if you REALLY like the FFVII world and wanna see more of it. Genesis is a really lame character and terrible addition to the lore though. Let that be a warning.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by ナナキ🪶:

There's no "FF7 Series". There's one good game that was so well put together that it's a classic (FF7) and a series of derivative byproducts that exists solely to cash in on the fact that FF7 is so beloved.

Oh no, any game, movie, or book series with sequels/prequels riding off an already successful story to give fans more of what they want and make a more reliable profit is evillllllll!! Due to not being the main product released it absolutely utterly cannot actually be "good". Do you want to give that another take or leave as is?

Originally posted by ナナキ🪶:

You won't like this, because people who haven't experienced something like to rationalize that they've "experienced" it, and come up with all sorts of reasons for why, but FF7R has little to do with FF7, in terms of story and tone and characters. It's basically a sequel to Advent Children, which in my opinion is downright idiotic (Advent Children was itself a very disappointing and sloppy byproduct which only appeal was nostalgia for the actual game and story of FF7 that were actually good).

Oh boy, it is patently clear you've never played the Remake because this is wrong. This is a sequel to the original Final Fantasy VII game, not Advent Children. In fact, as far as we can speculate Advent Children does not exist in this series nor is there even any relation for you to mention Advent Children. Rather, based on the info we know the events here could actually possibly be even the moment Sephiroth is defeated and before Meteor is stopped.

As for your bizarre reference to Advent Children I'm assuming you are basing this off ignorance from you viewing part of the ending online as you haven't played the game. This particular fight scene occurs in a dimension between others where time and space are stagnant governed by a completely different set of physics hence the floating buildings and stuff... This completely explains the ability to jump such heights due to low gravity and jumping off debris (note only Sephiroth flies, an ability he had even in the original game). Beyond this, such combat nor physical feats are ever witnessed in the rest of the game on their normal planet nor in any of the trailers for episode 2 so far suggesting this was only possible in that one region of space.

If you had actually played the game this would have been rather obvious... smh

Originally posted by ナナキ🪶:

They've managed to make a "remake" that was actively unwelcoming to newcomers, which is quite a feat (ie. 'failure').

Actually, it was designed to be actively welcoming, specifically, to new comers who have not played the original or any FF entry. New comers have also engaged the game successfully without issue. There is no known pronounced issue with new comers struggling with the game's story / lore. Further, episode 2 Rebirth is also being designed for new comers, even those who have not played episode 1 including a 15 minute recap to catch them up as well.

You are categorically wrong thrice in a row now.

The game also sports value with its underlying lore and details for veteran fans of the series who have actually played the original but this is not required knowledge for new players.

Originally posted by ナナキ🪶:

Play the original game (you know how), or even buy it on Steam, since the PC version is here, and then use the Mod Manager "7th Heaven" to bring it up to modern standards (60FPS, 16:9 aspect ratio, upscaled everything, and what have you). Play that through, and only then will you have experienced FF7.

This is wrong. You can play the Remake totally fine without the original. I do recommend the original, regardless, because it is an excellent game. You can play the original first than Remake or Remake normal (hard is NG+ only) > original > Remake hard NG+ which will also let you take a break from the remake for a refresher and come back not only refreshed but able to catch details you didn't the first time through due to playing the original. This makes both playthroughs fresher and is probably the optimal play route for most consumers new to the series.

Originally posted by ナナキ🪶:

There's no "FF7 Series", and it is saddening that newcomers especially will play everything, all sorts of derivative byproducts that will spoil them about the story and characters, but will stay away from the actual game. Actual game that is the sole reason all these byproducts even exist in the first place, and which story was never retold and cannot be experienced elsewhere than by playing through the original.

Except there is? Further, the Remake dramatically improves on and actually develops characters like Tifa, Barrett, etc. that were immensely underdeveloped in the original game giving them a proper presence.

Funny your comments yet the Remake is a resounding success with great hype towards episode 2 from fans and veteran fans (myself included) are among the most supportive of the Remake.

Your loss for not playing the remake and making wild ignorant incorrect assumptions about it leading you to avoiding it or any other related content from the FF7 universe.

Originally posted by Tr0w:

FF7R blows this game out of the water, as do all of the mainline FF games.
With Crisis Core 90% of the game is the same copy/paste missions.

^This is a pretty accurate statement.

The main story is around 10 hours long... The game has like 50+ hours of filler padding that is, literally, like 300 missions on tiny copy pasted maps of the same content. This is not a joke of any sort. The game isn't bad, but it isn't high quality. The biggest question will be if characters like the main character Zack, or side characters like the female Turk Cissnei appeal to you. Be warned this prequel has straight up retcons, severe ones, to the original story but now with the Remake's existence they can sort of be explained away as another timeline (granted the changes to back lore involving Aerith and Sephiroth, as well as their personalities are too severe to truly be explained by this but if you can ignore that you might like the game).

[Inquisitor Zalinto]

Originally posted by ナナキ🪶:

There's no "FF7 Series". There's one good game that was so well put together that it's a classic (FF7) and a series of derivative byproducts that exists solely to cash in on the fact that FF7 is so beloved.

You won't like this, because people who haven't experienced something like to rationalize that they've "experienced" it, and come up with all sorts of reasons for why, but FF7R has little to do with FF7, in terms of story and tone and characters. It's basically a sequel to Advent Children, which in my opinion is downright idiotic (Advent Children was itself a very disappointing and sloppy byproduct which only appeal was nostalgia for the actual game and story of FF7 that were actually good). They've managed to make a "remake" that was actively unwelcoming to newcomers, which is quite a feat (ie. 'failure').

Play the original game (you know how), or even buy it on Steam, since the PC version is here, and then use the Mod Manager "7th Heaven" to bring it up to modern standards (60FPS, 16:9 aspect ratio, upscaled everything, and what have you). Play that through, and only then will you have experienced FF7.

There's no "FF7 Series", and it is saddening that newcomers especially will play everything, all sorts of derivative byproducts that will spoil them about the story and characters, but will stay away from the actual game. Actual game that is the sole reason all these byproducts even exist in the first place, and which story was never retold and cannot be experienced elsewhere than by playing through the original.

Couldn't agree more. I can appreciate FF7 remake but only because I played the first game. This remake is horrible because it twists the story to basically make it some kind of multiverse sequel, not a remake lol. They should warn newcommers of that - its esssentially a giant spoiler as the entire game lol..... While I guess I can appreciate they did not just cancel out the OG FF7, the OG FF7 is still basically required to fully experience the "remake" .... The moment stupid little ghosts started swirling around my characters I realized it was not a remake lol

THIS game however, crisis core...is even worse. BUT I still play it for the materia fusion and power/progression grind. Not the story. God the story is so...bleh. Falling through the same church ceiling REALLY put me off...and how many one winged angels do we really need >_< meh, i hate its story lol

[WhateverWorks]

Serious question, if you played Disc 1 of the original and ONLY disc 1 of the original, do you think you'd be able to accurately predict the events of the entire rest of the game? If you say yes, you're a liar or delusional. We technically don't even have that much plot wise of the remake project yet. People really need to remember that "chill" is an option in life.