is this game canon in current ff7r timeline?

[qawas]

because in the end of this game zack dies like in the original but at the end of FF7R he lives So which timeline is canon? is this game now just a spinoff and not a prequel? some lore experts here?

[Just Chill]

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Nomura drew the game's characters in a stylized and super deformed way

Oh... I am not sure if I can congratulate him for that.

I staid away from FF7 or FF9, because of their childish and doll-like character design and I still cannot get into any of these games.

FF8 was my first one, as it has proper human-like characters. FFX the second.
Never touched any other FF-game afterwards, but these 2 staid deep in my heart.


At some point, I watched Last Order and Advent Children, even though I didn't really get into as I knew none of the characters that good. XD
But it was interesting and I liked the art-style being more believeable than childish.

I already heard that Crisis Core is not that good tied to the new FF7R remake and some people even say FF7R is a "sequel" to the original FF7-game.
Which is a shame as it would still require me to play this game, while I really still cannot get into the weird character concepts.
I rather would prefer leaving original FF7 out and continue with FF7R.

I mean especially now that I have seen the anime-characters that look far more believeable than the artwork of the original, I am sad that this one has to be part of the franchise still and cannot be left out. :/

[qawas]

Everyone in FF7R looks like a 'proper human-like character' what are you even talking about?
And the reason they didn't look like that in FF7 OG is because its from 1997

[Just Chill]

Publicado originalmente por qawas:

Everyone in FF7R looks like a 'proper human-like character' what are you even talking about?
And the reason they didn't look like that in FF7 OG is because its from 1997

I know.
Not sure how you mixed that up, but I nowhere said anything bad about FF7R and how the characters look like there.
I even know that the last scene of Cloud in Crisis Core is the beginning scene of FF7R. Nice art style for sure.


And because it's from 1997 is no argument.
FF8 came out one year later in 1998. But has the far better art style for my taste.
FF9 came out in 2000 and again uses a similar childish art style, which I cannot get into.

FF10 came out 2001. For PS2 that is. So it had the best graphics of any FF-title in these times for sure.
But it either used believeable characters and I was fully hooked to that title.



I know that's personal preference, but I simply couldn't ever get into that childish art style.
So for me the original FF7 and FF9 are games, I'll never play. Simply as I cannot get into it of how the characters are portrayed.
Yet again, that's just my issue and my taste. ;)

[qawas]

You should play FFXIII it's really good and includes 3 games, also it has no childish artstyle

[Just Chill]

Publicado originalmente por Tr0w:

Nomura did the character designs for 8 as well and said that was his true drawing style.

Thanks for mentioning. :)
I didn't know he said that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetsuya_Nomura#1990s

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He then designed characters and monsters for Final Fantasy VIII in what he described as his "actual style of drawing", working alongside art director Yusuke Naora to realize the more realistic approach to the game's graphics.

[Xengre]

Publicado originalmente por Just Chill:

Publicado originalmente por Tr0w:

Nomura drew the game's characters in a stylized and super deformed way

Oh... I am not sure if I can congratulate him for that.

I staid away from FF7 or FF9, because of their childish and doll-like character design and I still cannot get into any of these games.

FF8 was my first one, as it has proper human-like characters. FFX the second.
Never touched any other FF-game afterwards, but these 2 staid deep in my heart.


At some point, I watched Last Order and Advent Children, even though I didn't really get into as I knew none of the characters that good. XD
But it was interesting and I liked the art-style being more believeable than childish.

I already heard that Crisis Core is not that good tied to the new FF7R remake and some people even say FF7R is a "sequel" to the original FF7-game.
Which is a shame as it would still require me to play this game, while I really still cannot get into the weird character concepts.
I rather would prefer leaving original FF7 out and continue with FF7R.

I mean especially now that I have seen the anime-characters that look far more believeable than the artwork of the original, I am sad that this one has to be part of the franchise still and cannot be left out. :/

Yeah, when FF9 released a lot of people (myself included) initially avoided it and reviews criticized its chibi styled characters. However, many came around shortly after and "gave it a chance" (myself, again, included months after released) and regretted not trying it earlier. There is definitely valid reasoning in it often being one of the top three rated Final Fantasy games as its definitely one of FF franchise's peaks. Personally, its a top fav of mine along with 7 and 8. It has a really good story, atmosphere, one of the better immersive worlds in JRPG, a great supporting cast, and some particularly strong character performancess (Zidane, the famous Vivi who is one of the franchise's best characters, Beatrix is one of gaming's best female characters period, etc.). It does have some odd points like Quina though, but they're not really negatives so much as just odd side nuances. It has good length and side content, too. I recommend giving it a chance at some point and you may get over the characters pretty fast in a few hours of play.

As for Final Fantasy 7 Remake it is, indeed, a sequel however while the original is needed to fully understand some underlying nuances its not actually required (so far) to understand the story reasonably well enough. Developer's claim they intend to make the entire remake trilogy not require the original game for new players though I have my doubts but, at the very least, you don't really HAVE to play the original to enjoy it.

[Demiurge]

well ff9 fans rejoice, it looks like it too will get a remake

[cowbell]

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Zack is gonna swoop in right at the moment Aerith is killed and save her

Zack failed to save every single person he tried to protect.

[Just Chill]

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Publicado originalmente por KaitoKid:

Zack is gonna swoop in right at the moment Aerith is killed and save her

Zack failed to save every single person he tried to protect.

Cloud is nothing to you then.

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

Publicado originalmente por qawas:

Everyone in FF7R looks like a 'proper human-like character' what are you even talking about?
And the reason they didn't look like that in FF7 OG is because its from 1997

the game uses the same engine as ff8, on the same hardware, and is 100% capable of running the battle models, or the high definition battle model for cloud only used during the final "fight" against sephiroth, for the world models. they just already had all of them made from when it was an n64 project, so they just said screw it and left the trash assets in.

[Dalokohs Bar Enjoyer]

Publicado originalmente por Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

Publicado originalmente por qawas:

Everyone in FF7R looks like a 'proper human-like character' what are you even talking about?
And the reason they didn't look like that in FF7 OG is because its from 1997

the game uses the same engine as ff8, on the same hardware, and is 100% capable of running the battle models, or the high definition battle model for cloud only used during the final "fight" against sephiroth, for the world models. they just already had all of them made from when it was an n64 project, so they just said screw it and left the trash assets in.

To be fair I personally think the square models for the overworld look fine, as a majority of the backgrounds look great especially on PSX. I think it just adds to a certain amount of charm the original has. But I understand why it's not for everyone.

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

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Publicado originalmente por Chad "The King" ThunderCuck:

the game uses the same engine as ff8, on the same hardware, and is 100% capable of running the battle models, or the high definition battle model for cloud only used during the final "fight" against sephiroth, for the world models. they just already had all of them made from when it was an n64 project, so they just said screw it and left the trash assets in.

To be fair I personally think the square models for the overworld look fine, as a majority of the backgrounds look great especially on PSX. I think it just adds to a certain amount of charm the original has. But I understand why it's not for everyone.

you ever play ff7 with the mod to change the blocky lego models with the in battle models? it adds a lot more charm when your characters look like they actually belong in the pre-rendered scenes.

[Tibore]

From my understanding there's currently 3 timelines at the same time with one being the original which is where Crisis Core takes place, the 7 Remake timeline and another separate timeline where Zack lives and a different Crisis Core took place and I assume the two new timelines will collide at some point.
Here's a fan made map with a lot of information but there's plenty out there to give you an idea https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/hpiheb/final_fantasy_7_remake_timeline/

[Xengre]

Publicado originalmente por Tibore:

From my understanding there's currently 3 timelines at the same time with one being the original which is where Crisis Core takes place, the 7 Remake timeline and another separate timeline where Zack lives and a different Crisis Core took place and I assume the two new timelines will collide at some point.
Here's a fan made map with a lot of information but there's plenty out there to give you an idea https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/hpiheb/final_fantasy_7_remake_timeline/

Possibly. We're not sure yet if the one from Crsisis Core will be wiggled into the remake despite being part of the R project or if its just going to be lightly based off that universe's details, but yeah if it is then its the most divergent of the three timelines by far and has a lot of stuff happen differently which would be technically okay as a third timeline. Then there is the original timeline plus the one they're now on at the end of the game like you said. Don't have time to look at the map right now but apparently Zack's voice actor suggests he will be rather relevant in Rebirth. Whether they physically interact or interact at a distance as influencing factors we don't know and it will be interesting to see how they make this work either way.

[Dalokohs Bar Enjoyer]

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To be fair I personally think the square models for the overworld look fine, as a majority of the backgrounds look great especially on PSX. I think it just adds to a certain amount of charm the original has. But I understand why it's not for everyone.

you ever play ff7 with the mod to change the blocky lego models with the in battle models? it adds a lot more charm when your characters look like they actually belong in the pre-rendered scenes.

No, I haven't because to me that takes away from the game more than it adds, on top of that I don't particularly care about "da gwaphics", game could literally be 2 pixels but if its fun it's fun.