My DMW is Broken.

[Snake]

Hi Guys

My Sephiroth DMW is stuck on 50%.

I've used Octoslash multiple times and it stays at 50%.

Break = 46
Verge = 67

What do break and verge mean? Is this something to do with it?

Thank you

[Sayo]

I think the percentage is based off of the cutscenes you get.

[Punishment_Fatal]

Depending on where you are in the story, you may not be able to progress Sephiroth's DMW. Additionally, verges are when the DMW is rolling for the 3rd portrait, and break is when the DMW successfully lands the 3rd face and gives you the limit break.

[luke atme]

well i dont have problem with dmw , but cant parry anymore... i scrap a contoller thinking i was stuck...crap...

[Kupo_owo]

truly a sad moment

[Snake]

Originally posted by Punishment_Fatal:

Depending on where you are in the story, you may not be able to progress Sephiroth's DMW. Additionally, verges are when the DMW is rolling for the 3rd portrait, and break is when the DMW successfully lands the 3rd face and gives you the limit break.

Chapter 10? Sephiroth's DMW won't increase?

[Manemo]

Originally posted by Aaron:

Originally posted by Punishment_Fatal:

Depending on where you are in the story, you may not be able to progress Sephiroth's DMW. Additionally, verges are when the DMW is rolling for the 3rd portrait, and break is when the DMW successfully lands the 3rd face and gives you the limit break.

Chapter 10? Sephiroth's DMW won't increase?

The DMW is random. In Chapter 10 you have access to all cutscenes/images to get all DMVs to 100% but you still need to get them during combat. Try to raise your emotions since the higher they are they higher the chances are for a cutscene/image to appear. It's pretty much more rng.

[Sauriel]

Originally posted by Manemo:

Originally posted by Aaron:

Chapter 10? Sephiroth's DMW won't increase?

The DMW is random. In Chapter 10 you have access to all cutscenes/images to get all DMVs to 100% but you still need to get them during combat. Try to raise your emotions since the higher they are they higher the chances are for a cutscene/image to appear. It's pretty much more rng.

I started get alot of them in the 50 or 100 trooper training missions, and then use some of them to get zacks mood to heavenly..and also demolish the place with summons lol

[Vitaminsmore]

I had my game running all night long, and it didn't give me any of Genesis.
I have Cloud & Aerith at 90% & Genesis at 10% with 4 of his DMW on at 8 Hours in 1-1-1 and nothing. Is this thing broken? The Genji armor could be better and is the hardest to get.
This is the last thing I need for 100%

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Vitaminsmore:

I had my game running all night long, and it didn't give me any of Genesis.
I have Cloud & Aerith at 90% & Genesis at 10% with 4 of his DMW on at 8 Hours in 1-1-1 and nothing. Is this thing broken? The Genji armor could be better and is the hardest to get.
This is the last thing I need for 100%

It does break. I noticed odd behavior on occasion where it wasn't acting right but confirmed last night it can 100% break sometimes. I did not bring the correct materia for the Ifrit mission with the two robots where Ifrit's limit break does 99999 damage (aka not the basic version of Ifrit but the later one) and had Heavenly that I got just from the prior fight as it ended. I went into this fight and due to having the wrong materia did really pathetic damage to him so the fight took an extended time (I should have just restarted it but was tired and watching a show at the same time while I did these mind numbing missions). Over that entire fight which took several minutes (roughly I'd estimate ~10) with Heavenly DMW status I did not get a single limit break which is statistically nearly impossible at normal DMW much less Heavenly. This is something I've seen happen a number of other times, too. There are clearly cases where its not just normal "unlucky" RNG but something is up with how it rolls that can result in either a skewed bias due to the RNG seed value or even outright breaking it.

Your only solution is to basically try it another night if it either was "unlucky" or worse "broke" during the prior attempt. There are definitely cases of it being potentially unlucky as they mentioned, too, though if you are leaving it for 8 hours this is rather unlikely as well, esp if you have the proper materia to influence it towards where it should and its still stuck at like 10% which would be further evidence of the bug.

EDIT: After doing a lot more testing with steal earlier today as I was doing missions (using Mog's but not the Brigand Gloves) I'm seeing there is an exceedingly inconsistent bias where you either have insanely good steal rates or bordering on absurd for the entire battle (not per enemy and not a case of "lucK" in the normal sense but due to the root issue creating a severe incorrect bias). It appears that the most probable cause is the seed for generating the RNG rates, and the PRNG in general, is written terribly bad causing ridiculous results for DMW and Stealing among other likely implicated aspects handled by it. This isn't really "luck" so much as a programming error creating a disgustingly misconfigured skew. Getting into a new fight seems to update it so if you are trying to afk farm DMW it may do horribly one day and amazing the next due to this error rather than you are doing something wrong.

[KyoKat]

Originally posted by Vitaminsmore:

I had my game running all night long, and it didn't give me any of Genesis.
I have Cloud & Aerith at 90% & Genesis at 10% with 4 of his DMW on at 8 Hours in 1-1-1 and nothing. Is this thing broken? The Genji armor could be better and is the hardest to get.
This is the last thing I need for 100%

i had the same problem with cloud at 90%, took more than 14 hours

in my case i used 2 cissnei and 3 or 4 cloud DMW materia + cheat engine to increase speed
always using lucky star skill, i finally got the last cloud 10% after 14 or 15 hours (few minutes in real-time)... so yeah, it's not broken, it's just lucky

[Vitaminsmore]

Originally posted by KyoKat:

Originally posted by Vitaminsmore:

I had my game running all night long, and it didn't give me any of Genesis.
I have Cloud & Aerith at 90% & Genesis at 10% with 4 of his DMW on at 8 Hours in 1-1-1 and nothing. Is this thing broken? The Genji armor could be better and is the hardest to get.
This is the last thing I need for 100%

i had the same problem with cloud at 90%, took more than 14 hours

in my case i used 2 cissnei and 3 or 4 cloud DMW materia + cheat engine to increase speed
always using lucky star skill, i finally got the last cloud 10% after 14 or 15 hours (few minutes in real-time)... so yeah, it's not broken, it's just lucky

I'm not familiar with this cheat engine, Though I am curious how I can speed this up, I want to save hours on this.

[Vitaminsmore]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by Vitaminsmore:

I had my game running all night long, and it didn't give me any of Genesis.
I have Cloud & Aerith at 90% & Genesis at 10% with 4 of his DMW on at 8 Hours in 1-1-1 and nothing. Is this thing broken? The Genji armor could be better and is the hardest to get.
This is the last thing I need for 100%

It does break. I noticed odd behavior on occasion where it wasn't acting right but confirmed last night it can 100% break sometimes. I did not bring the correct materia for the Ifrit mission with the two robots where Ifrit's limit break does 99999 damage (aka not the basic version of Ifrit but the later one) and had Heavenly that I got just from the prior fight as it ended. I went into this fight and due to having the wrong materia did really pathetic damage to him so the fight took an extended time (I should have just restarted it but was tired and watching a show at the same time while I did these mind numbing missions). Over that entire fight which took several minutes (roughly I'd estimate ~10) with Heavenly DMW status I did not get a single limit break which is statistically nearly impossible at normal DMW much less Heavenly. This is something I've seen happen a number of other times, too. There are clearly cases where its not just normal "unlucky" RNG but something is up with how it rolls that can result in either a skewed bias due to the RNG seed value or even outright breaking it.

Your only solution is to basically try it another night if it either was "unlucky" or worse "broke" during the prior attempt. There are definitely cases of it being potentially unlucky as they mentioned, too, though if you are leaving it for 8 hours this is rather unlikely as well, esp if you have the proper materia to influence it towards where it should and its still stuck at like 10% which would be further evidence of the bug.

EDIT: After doing a lot more testing with steal earlier today as I was doing missions (using Mog's but not the Brigand Gloves) I'm seeing there is an exceedingly inconsistent bias where you either have insanely good steal rates or bordering on absurd for the entire battle (not per enemy and not a case of "lucK" in the normal sense but due to the root issue creating a severe incorrect bias). It appears that the most probable cause is the seed for generating the RNG rates, and the PRNG in general, is written terribly bad causing ridiculous results for DMW and Stealing among other likely implicated aspects handled by it. This isn't really "luck" so much as a programming error creating a disgustingly misconfigured skew. Getting into a new fight seems to update it so if you are trying to afk farm DMW it may do horribly one day and amazing the next due to this error rather than you are doing something wrong.

Thank you for all the information regarding this.

[KyoKat]

Originally posted by Vitaminsmore:

Originally posted by KyoKat:

i had the same problem with cloud at 90%, took more than 14 hours

in my case i used 2 cissnei and 3 or 4 cloud DMW materia + cheat engine to increase speed
always using lucky star skill, i finally got the last cloud 10% after 14 or 15 hours (few minutes in real-time)... so yeah, it's not broken, it's just lucky

I'm not familiar with this cheat engine, Though I am curious how I can speed this up, I want to save hours on this.

it's very simple:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEDPgrz1Gl8

[Vitaminsmore]

Originally posted by KyoKat:

Originally posted by Vitaminsmore:

I'm not familiar with this cheat engine, Though I am curious how I can speed this up, I want to save hours on this.

it's very simple:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEDPgrz1Gl8

Thank you, I figured it out just a little bit ago.

[Leon "Scotty" Kennedy]

Does anyone have an idea why when i get a Sephiroth or Tseng verge and a few seconds later it triggers a summon?

I'm at chapter 9 trying to get the genji shield but i just can't get octaslash. It always goes into verge mode and after that it triggers a summon and i don't know why.

As you all probably know already in chapter 9 you have heightened emotionals towards cissnei and angeal and i think that's what is triggering this. I have the octaslash materia too. Any ideas?