Shoto Todoroki doesn't work with how the game is changing.

[Blue Cherios]

He was too strong before. Now he is too weak. Alpha is so hard to hit with without auto aim, So his range game is so weak. When he gets too close his loses against all close range characters. He can't escape and gets cancled before getting to ride on his ice. If someone with mobility wants to target you, you are just dead. I don't want him to 1 shot with gamma ice, but make the other abilities more reliable. Maybe even making his special do more damage could work. Make the beta so they fall behind it not on top of it. He could also use one more beta ice wall, but that might be too strong I dunno.

I mostly just frustrated while I play him, whising he had a better chance, and being balanced.. They game just keep making stronger or more mobile characters that it is beginning to get stupid. All for one and Mirio is the proof of that. I am loosing sight of the fun aspect of this game and keep thinking of what I wish were different, this might be my last season.

What do you think?

[YS - Yass_Smash]

I agree with you. He was too strong before and they didnt gave him something to compensate the nerf

[Nyaa]

yes yes todoroki is not strong enough just make him one hit eberyone
really starting to wonder who is worse the developers or the players

[XINGO]

I swear Nyaa works on the game lol

[Nyaa]

Originally posted by XINGO:

I swear Nyaa works on the game lol

sadly nyaa isnt

[New Breakfast]

have you been using beta for close-range battle? also not relying on stationary gamma too much?

[XINGO]

Pikachu

[Dr.EvilZ]

I don't know what your on about, Shoto is still strong and I love him, his ice stun is still busted and does crazy damage, the only thing I never liked about him is no air mobility only ground.

[Blue Cherios]

Originally posted by New Breakfast:

have you been using beta for close-range battle? also not relying on stationary gamma too much?

Yeah dude all the time. Its the only thing I can do before getting hammered. If they are good

[76561198254463908]

dunno why devs keep looking at shoto but keep bufing deku

[Blue Cherios]

Originally posted by Dr.EvilZ:

I don't know what your on about, Shoto is still strong and I love him, his ice stun is still busted and does crazy damage, the only thing I never liked about him is no air mobility only ground.

Ice stun / Gamma is not working against characters that uses high ground or upwards mobility. They could make the gamma work like shigi reds Alpha; climbing up and over terrain would make sense honestly. Could boost its reliability. But I have to disagree Shoto might be the worst character this season. Sadly I am addicted to underdog characters. Currently going through all the characters.

[2cide]

its not that todo is weak, but the ceiling for getting stronger (OP) keeps getting higher
lemon viability, the stale gamemodes, ♥♥♥♥ balance, it is all so tiresome. so beyond inexcusable I finally stopped playing.

season 5s dikki is just too nasty

[hypehype]

Even when the game first came out, my first tactic vs Todoroki when I see him is to go air born,

You kill 2 birds with one stone when you do this.

you eliminate his gamma as it only works on the ground, you can shoot over his ice shield and if you are on top of a building you can find cover from his alpha.


I think just like they did with Tomura they might give him a new skill set? or make his gamma climb buildings? (in the show he could freeze houses)

[hypehype]

Originally posted by 2cide:

its not that todo is weak, but the ceiling for getting stronger (OP) keeps getting higher
lemon viability, the stale gamemodes, ♥♥♥♥ balance, it is all so tiresome. so beyond inexcusable I finally stopped playing.

season 5s dikki is just too nasty

lemo is irritating if you can't fly, and i have noticed they like to target the non-flight characters

then you have bakugo's new skill set which keeps him in the air 80% of the time.
even Tomura can fly with his new skill set.

funny thing is, I dont understand why eraser head has better flight mobility than endeavor.


And It will only get worse with more flight characters such as yuga, fumikage, sero, tamaki, nejire,edgeshot,hawks, mirko, kamui woods, ryukyu and gran torino,

[Harlegar]

Originally posted by Blue Cherios:

He was too strong before. Now he is too weak. Alpha is so hard to hit with without auto aim, So his range game is so weak. When he gets too close his loses against all close range characters. He can't escape and gets cancled before getting to ride on his ice. If someone with mobility wants to target you, you are just dead. I don't want him to 1 shot with gamma ice, but make the other abilities more reliable. Maybe even making his special do more damage could work. Make the beta so they fall behind it not on top of it. He could also use one more beta ice wall, but that might be too strong I dunno.

I mostly just frustrated while I play him, whising he had a better chance, and being balanced.. They game just keep making stronger or more mobile characters that it is beginning to get stupid. All for one and Mirio is the proof of that. I am loosing sight of the fun aspect of this game and keep thinking of what I wish were different, this might be my last season.

What do you think?

Give his beta and his special action a small rework (or, add what they removed from it.)
His beta was different in the beta of the game, if you held it (or i dunno tap it), you would instead create a giant ice ramp that covered some pretty good ground which could also be used as a shield.
His special action was also different, instead of just being a copy of the beta skill, it used to just be a flamethrower skill (think endeavour except close range and dealt little damage over time but VERY fast.)


Could just give both of these versions back and make the input for both of them to hold either of their respective abilities.
https://youtu.be/TmQeV4Ow7Tg?t=283

[Blue Cherios]

Originally posted by Harlegar:

Originally posted by Blue Cherios:

He was too strong before. Now he is too weak. Alpha is so hard to hit with without auto aim, So his range game is so weak. When he gets too close his loses against all close range characters. He can't escape and gets cancled before getting to ride on his ice. If someone with mobility wants to target you, you are just dead. I don't want him to 1 shot with gamma ice, but make the other abilities more reliable. Maybe even making his special do more damage could work. Make the beta so they fall behind it not on top of it. He could also use one more beta ice wall, but that might be too strong I dunno.

I mostly just frustrated while I play him, whising he had a better chance, and being balanced.. They game just keep making stronger or more mobile characters that it is beginning to get stupid. All for one and Mirio is the proof of that. I am loosing sight of the fun aspect of this game and keep thinking of what I wish were different, this might be my last season.

What do you think?

Give his beta and his special action a small rework (or, add what they removed from it.)
His beta was different in the beta of the game, if you held it (or i dunno tap it), you would instead create a giant ice ramp that covered some pretty good ground which could also be used as a shield.
His special action was also different, instead of just being a copy of the beta skill, it used to just be a flamethrower skill (think endeavour except close range and dealt little damage over time but VERY fast.)


Could just give both of these versions back and make the input for both of them to hold either of their respective abilities.
https://youtu.be/TmQeV4Ow7Tg?t=283

I do like the ice wall variation. But I like current special more than the old one. If he became more of a zoner than a sniper I think he could maybe a find a place for himself