Jaspericusdhoom původně napsal:

Would it be possible for larger Maps? I love the game but if there will be another faction a map size above 'large' would be fantastic?

I tend to go for the huge maps myself in this sort of game.. in Dune I've been gravitating towards medium, though, it seems to fit the game better. It's worth a shot, if you tend to go for that automatically. Still, having the option of larger maps is nice.

Falaris původně napsal:

BHZ původně napsal:

Blah blah blah. Say what you want. People want Ordos. Make a poll.

I want pigs to be able to fly!
Make a poll.

Why add this that's against natural law The one suggested by bhz not so much. Not that i support it, which i explained earlier on this thread.

Fedaygin původně napsal:

Falaris původně napsal:

I want pigs to be able to fly!
Make a poll.

Why add this that's against natural law :cozyteddymoo: The one suggested by bhz not so much.

I explained earlier why it was impossible. Not unlikely, not difficult, not a matter of what Shiro wants, not an option if they throw enough money at it, but impossible.

Jaspericusdhoom původně napsal:

Would it be possible for larger Maps? I love the game but if there will be another faction a map size above 'large' would be fantastic?

Another faction doesn't mean all factions will be played in the same match together.

Falaris původně napsal:

Fedaygin původně napsal:

Why add this that's against natural law :cozyteddymoo: The one suggested by bhz not so much.

I explained earlier why it was impossible. Not unlikely, not difficult, not a matter of what Shiro wants, not an option if they throw enough money at it, but impossible.

Yes, Ordos are also very unnecesary seen that the lore books have multiple interesting houses and factions. Ordos are a fan favourite sure. From more than a decade ago, in a completely different sort of game. 4x is not RTS.
Ordos are not canon (Not Dune) and not needed for this game to shine.
As you said, it is not even possible for Shiro if they wanted to.

I would love to see Bene Geserit or Fenring, or Ginaz (swordmasters)
Ecaz, Wallach, Ix, Tleilaxu all interesting.

You see? Enough interesting choices beyond the non-canon faction.

I do wonder a bit for the necessity for every party to be on Dune. I hope the campaign makes sense in this regard.

Shows how little i actually know about dune. I didnt know there where more houses heh!
Very excited for these updates. <3

Silioth původně napsal:

Shows how little i actually know about dune. I didnt know there where more houses heh!
Very excited for these updates. <3

In total there are more than 50, or something like that, throughout the books of Frank and Brian Herbert. Jason Momoa plays a Swordmaster of Ginaz in the movie. Badass swordwielders. ;)

Katitoff původně napsal:

Big Boss původně napsal:

That new faction better be house corrino, this game is begging for sardaukar

But that makes no sense at all, given how smugglers get sardaukar visits if they don't pay taxes.

That can make complete sense if they get the idea from original Dune Board Game. It has Imperial Court/Corrino there. And game get it's reedition lately.

zeshoot původně napsal:

Katitoff původně napsal:

But that makes no sense at all, given how smugglers get sardaukar visits if they don't pay taxes.

That can make complete sense if they get the idea from original Dune Board Game. It has Imperial Court/Corrino there. And game get it's reedition lately.

Why would the Ruler of the Known Universe himself come to Dune and harvest Spice? He is much too vain for that. Let the little minions fight over it, as long as the Spice flows into the coffers of Corrino.

Corrino isn't just a faction or House, it is the crowned law by heritage. It is the very backbone as to why the different factions are on Dune and why the systems work as they do.
Corrino commands, and the known universe follows.
Corrino is the reason Spice must flow. The reason tax has to get paid, the reason the different factions fight. (So Corrino can stay the most powerful)
This goes for the game and the books.

Therefore it makes more sense, as in other Dune games, that the Sardaukar only come if the Padishah Emperor is not pleased with anything, or if it pays enough.
I understand why anyone would love to be him and play with his soldiers but in the complete scope of Dune there has to be a hierarchy which will be obliterated if the Padishah Emperor Shadam IV mingles in pitiful little controversies below his divine standing.

Or so he says.

* I would love for the new victory condition to be bringing down House Corrino.
The Ultimate Muadhib Move.

Vagabond původně napsal:

zeshoot původně napsal:

That can make complete sense if they get the idea from original Dune Board Game. It has Imperial Court/Corrino there. And game get it's reedition lately.

Why would the Ruler of the Known Universe himself come to Dune and harvest Spice? He is much too vain for that. Let the little minions fight over it, as long as the Spice flows into the coffers of Corrino.

Corrino isn't just a faction or House, it is the crowned law by heritage. It is the very backbone as to why the different factions are on Dune and why the systems work as they do.
Corrino commands, and the known universe follows.
Corrino is the reason Spice must flow. The reason tax has to get paid, the reason the different factions fight. (So Corrino can stay the most powerful)
This goes for the game and the books.

Therefore it makes more sense, as in other Dune games, that the Sardaukar only come if the Padishah Emperor is not pleased with anything, or if it pays enough.
I understand why anyone would love to be him and play with his soldiers but in the complete scope of Dune there has to be a hierarchy which will be obliterated if the Padishah Emperor Shadam IV mingles in pitiful little controversies below his divine standing.

Or so he says.

* I would love for the new victory condition to be bringing down House Corrino.
The Ultimate Muadhib Move.

That might be an actual good move - add Corrino as NPC faction with sector/s. Like Academy in Endless Space. If You don't deliver, loose rating, etc - the go dor You. Makes politics game more spicy.
P.s all drug addicts with power are reason for spice to must flow - Guild and BG especially. For Emperor is a grant to stay in rule only. Guilds says that they dont care who rules until Spice flows.

omg yes! brother showed me last night. so hype i was right about heros dropping cant wait

zeshoot původně napsal:

Vagabond původně napsal:

Why would the Ruler of the Known Universe himself come to Dune and harvest Spice? He is much too vain for that. Let the little minions fight over it, as long as the Spice flows into the coffers of Corrino.

Corrino isn't just a faction or House, it is the crowned law by heritage. It is the very backbone as to why the different factions are on Dune and why the systems work as they do.
Corrino commands, and the known universe follows.
Corrino is the reason Spice must flow. The reason tax has to get paid, the reason the different factions fight. (So Corrino can stay the most powerful)
This goes for the game and the books.

Therefore it makes more sense, as in other Dune games, that the Sardaukar only come if the Padishah Emperor is not pleased with anything, or if it pays enough.
I understand why anyone would love to be him and play with his soldiers but in the complete scope of Dune there has to be a hierarchy which will be obliterated if the Padishah Emperor Shadam IV mingles in pitiful little controversies below his divine standing.

Or so he says.

* I would love for the new victory condition to be bringing down House Corrino.
The Ultimate Muadhib Move.

That might be an actual good move - add Corrino as NPC faction with sector/s. Like Academy in Endless Space. If You don't deliver, loose rating, etc - the go dor You. Makes politics game more spicy.
P.s all drug addicts with power are reason for spice to must flow - Guild and BG especially. For Emperor is a grant to stay in rule only. Guilds says that they dont care who rules until Spice flows.

You are correct. The intricacies of power in Dune are much more elaborate than i described. The Spacing Guild needs the Spice to control its monopoly. F.I.

p.s. I loved the ES2 solution with The Academy. Something along those lines would be excellent. I don't think it's necesarry for Corrino to actually be present on Arrakis. I'd prefer them to be more like a big brother watching from the known universe at your every move.

* Off topic: Mentats are a bit forgotten overall.

Looking forward to hearing about the campaign!

Looks pretty good!

Should there be not at least four more factions for an eight player match?