So this is nothing like the Original?

[PocketYoda]

Reading the reviews it seems like this is more total war style game than Command & Conquer style of the original.. I kinda wanted the original RTS with better graphics..

Also does it follow the lore accurately?

am i wrong?

[Ac1d_Bl4ck]

FYI the original Dune is a narrative adventure game. What you are referencing is Dune 2, and that was nothing like the Original.

In any case, answering your question, for you it's bettert to skip this.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Ac1d_Bl4ck:

FYI the original Dune is a narrative adventure game. What you are referencing is Dune 2, and that was nothing like the Original.

In any case, answering your question, for you it's bettert to skip this.

I did say the original RTS..

[Domelius]

I'm quite new to this game so my perspective may not be ideal.

I like Dune franchise and only read few books like 20 years ago and played the old RTS game - so I cannot tell you about the lore from the point of view of a die-hard fan.

Personally I feel the spirit of Dune here overall, and I find joy in this game. Music is great here and helps with the atmosphere. But I also seen comments from Dune fan-atics and they always had something to complain about.

If you expect fast paced battles like in old RTS this is not really like it. Similar but more of a slo-motion variation of it. Pacing is different - I would say that a single skirmish is around 2-4 hours and it feels more like management game than military RTS. Of course you can decide to destroy all your enemies. Maybe you can do it if you are lucky.

If you have seen or played Northgard, one of earlier Shiro Games titles, you would see they borrowed some of the things from that RTS but hid it under different models, mechanics, textures, names etc. And it is not a bad thing.

Be aware that some players, including me have problem with games produced by Shiro Games. And that problem is their engine. They use it in all of their games and the main fault is that they lose fps significantly even on modern, powerful rig. Especially the more you reveal on the map, the more units there are and the longer the game plays. So I start my play-through on solid 144 fps for like an hour to end up with 30-50 fps close to an end. And that is the biggest drawback.

If you are not convinced grab it on sale. I got it for around 15EUR and I am happy with that purchase regardless of some game flaws.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Domelius:

I'm quite new to this game so my perspective may not be ideal.

I like Dune franchise and only read few books like 20 years ago and played the old RTS game - so I cannot tell you about the lore from the point of view of a die-hard fan.

Personally I feel the spirit of Dune here overall, and I find joy in this game. Music is great here and helps with the atmosphere. But I also seen comments from Dune fan-atics and they always had something to complain about.

If you expect fast paced battles like in old RTS this is not really like it. Similar but more of a slo-motion variation of it. Pacing is different - I would say that a single skirmish is around 2-4 hours and it feels more like management game than military RTS. Of course you can decide to destroy all your enemies. Maybe you can do it if you are lucky.

If you have seen or played Northgard, one of earlier Shiro Games titles, you would see they borrowed some of the things from that RTS but hid it under different models, mechanics, textures, names etc. And it is not a bad thing.

Be aware that some players, including me have problem with games produced by Shiro Games. And that problem is their engine. They use it in all of their games and the main fault is that they lose fps significantly even on modern, powerful rig. Especially the more you reveal on the map, the more units there are and the longer the game plays. So I start my play-through on solid 144 fps for like an hour to end up with 30-50 fps close to an end. And that is the biggest drawback.

If you are not convinced grab it on sale. I got it for around 15EUR and I am happy with that purchase regardless of some game flaws.

Thanks for all this sadly i do not think this is my type of RTS if you could even call this game a RTS.. Seems more like a hybrid jack of all trades.

I am a purist sadly so if the writing breaks the lore there goes my immersion.. i know some people don't care but i like my franchises accurate as.

Sadly i think i'll give this a miss.

[GasmaskMSK]

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Reading the reviews it seems like this is more total war style game than Command & Conquer style of the original.. I kinda wanted the original RTS with better graphics..

Also does it follow the lore accurately?

am i wrong?

You're right.

This is a Dune-styled Sid Meier's Civ RTS. It has NOTHING in common with the original Dune PC game, except for the location of the control panel on the right side of the screen.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by GasmaskMSK:

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Reading the reviews it seems like this is more total war style game than Command & Conquer style of the original.. I kinda wanted the original RTS with better graphics..

Also does it follow the lore accurately?

am i wrong?

You're right.

This is a Dune-styled Sid Meier's Civ RTS. It has NOTHING in common with the original Dune PC game, except for the location of the control panel on the right side of the screen.

Thanks again saved me some dollars.

[Ac1d_Bl4ck]

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

I am a purist sadly so if the writing breaks the lore there goes my immersion.. i know some people don't care but i like my franchises accurate as.

Sadly i think i'll give this a miss.

If you are so purist, why are you so fond of Dune 2 with that Ordos nonsense?

[noctilucus]

Originally posted by Ac1d_Bl4ck:

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

I am a purist sadly so if the writing breaks the lore there goes my immersion.. i know some people don't care but i like my franchises accurate as.

Sadly i think i'll give this a miss.

If you are so purist, why are you so fond of Dune 2 with that Ordos nonsense?

Probably the extremely lore-accurate tanks? ;-)

[IonizedMercury]

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Thanks for all this sadly i do not think this is my type of RTS if you could even call this game a RTS.. Seems more like a hybrid jack of all trades.

I am a purist sadly so if the writing breaks the lore there goes my immersion.. i know some people don't care but i like my franchises accurate as.

Sadly i think i'll give this a miss.

Lemme' guess, it's about making Liet a woman, right? Funny how you feign ignorance about the game but already know this little fact.

Also, you say you're a purist opposed to making changes to the book, but then go on and praise a game from thirty years ago that's basically nothing but fanfiction to the point of including exactly ZERO canon characters and making combat all about heavy ground vehicles and shooting.

Just another right-wing bad faith player attempting to culture war.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by IonizedMercury:

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Thanks for all this sadly i do not think this is my type of RTS if you could even call this game a RTS.. Seems more like a hybrid jack of all trades.

I am a purist sadly so if the writing breaks the lore there goes my immersion.. i know some people don't care but i like my franchises accurate as.

Sadly i think i'll give this a miss.

Lemme' guess, it's about making Liet a woman, right? Funny how you feign ignorance about the game but already know this little fact.

Also, you say you're a purist opposed to making changes to the book, but then go on and praise a game from thirty years ago that's basically nothing but fanfiction to the point of including exactly ZERO canon characters and making combat all about heavy ground vehicles and shooting.

Just another right-wing bad faith player attempting to culture war.

The old game wasn't accurate but i was a kid when i played it.. And it was a lot of fun. Me now to then is a whole different customer. I've since read the books.

All i asked was is this a similar game to Dune 2. I was told no and i'm ok with that i have no interest in civ type games.

I have no idea how you made this into a left wing/right wing fiasco..

[Soho]

This isn't that much like a "Civ-type game" either

Those games are hex-grid, this is not... also those games are turn-based, this is not

I avoid anything that has "Sid Meier" attached to it... those games are mainstream and lame (just my opinion, I am sure a lot of people love those games... total sales does not equal quality in games though, again my opinion)

This is a small developer with very original ideas, with innovative mechanics that improve on other REAL TIME STRATEGY games like Warcraft III... matter of fact, it plays a lot like some of the custom maps you could play in Warcraft III e.g. with the diplomacy and trading... multiple win cons besides just 'destroy all enemy buildings' (though that is a thing too)

This is an RTS (REAL TIME STRATEGY) game because it is not turn-based (duh). You can active pause in single-player and there are built-in pauses for political events in multiplayer (because you do need time to think and scheme)

It's probably too much for most average players because they want the dumbed-down version of the old Dune 2 style game, or games like in the C&C series or like games with no more complexity level than Starcraft 1... which yeah, I agree those are still good games, I'm just saying they really are pretty simple compared to this.

In Dune 2, you could probably beat the entire game (all the campaigns) in Dune 2 in less than 20 hours played, and you would not want to play it again (hell even one game would be a slog imo). There is about zero replayability tbh. The updated Dune 2000 (which came out in 2000 (duh), but was by that time very overshadowed and much forgotten because of Starcraft 1) at least had multiplayer and much better graphics/gameplay, but lack of maps/content still makes it pretty low-replayability. Dune: Spice Wars has more factions and procedural-generated maps so replayability > those older games

But sounds like you've already passed thanks to some other people's inputs, so cheers & have fun playing something else

[DasaKamov]

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Me now to then is a whole different customer. I've since read the books.

No one said so yet *directly*, but this game is EXTREMELY faithful to the original books, and everything in the game's story was approved of or adjusted by Frank Herbert's family. There's even an in-game glossary to help newcomers to the language of the setting, such as CHOAM and Sietch.

It is aesthetically similar to the recent movies, which some people were up in arms about (and why some people reacted a bit defensively to your post).

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by DasaKamov:

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Me now to then is a whole different customer. I've since read the books.

No one said so yet *directly*, but this game is EXTREMELY faithful to the original books, and everything in the game's story was approved of or adjusted by Frank Herbert's family. There's even an in-game glossary to help newcomers to the language of the setting, such as CHOAM and Sietch.

It is aesthetically similar to the recent movies, which some people were up in arms about (and why some people reacted a bit defensively to your post).

Fair enough, Frank herbert's family also said yes to that funcom mmo coming that totally rewrites the books so that's not that great of a thing they just obviously want money..

Saying that this isn't for me as a game. Far too slow and far to much multitasking from people explanations here. Sorry thanks everyone but i was looking for something i guess to you more dumbed down.. Dune 2 and 2000 were excellent fun (way better than Starcraft)..

[Ac1d_Bl4ck]

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Saying that this isn't for me as a game. Far too slow and far to much multitasking from people explanations here. Sorry thanks everyone but i was looking for something i guess to you more dumbed down.. Dune 2 and 2000 were excellent fun (way better than Starcraft)..

Dune 2 and 2000 were excellent fun... For like about a 6 years old? In 1992? xD try playing it now. Dune 2 is insanely outdated and of all Dune games has the least relation to the world or lore. But people still act like Dune is allowed to have only one game and it's Dune 2.

What you want is not Dune 2 remake, you want to feel like a kid again. No game will give you that.

[GasmaskMSK]

Originally posted by DasaKamov:

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Me now to then is a whole different customer. I've since read the books.

It is aesthetically similar to the recent movies, which some people were up in arms about (and why some people reacted a bit defensively to your post).

Sure, if the recent movie was a cartoon. LMAO.