You aren't enjoying this game because you are playing it wrong!

[SpicyCrab]

This is not an RTS like starcraft. It's not a 4X game like Civilization; it's more like a board game; even like the 'Dune' or the Twilight imperium dune clone board game.

Get your buds together, get into a full 4 person lobby, make sure that everybody is on discord together shooting the ♥♥♥♥ and this game will deliver you the best time you have had playing a 4X game multiplayer that you've ever had.

I cannot praise this game enough, i've been searching for a game like this for YEARS and nothing comes even close.

Think of it like a board game, not an RTS. Crack some beers, start making deals! God I love Spice Wars...

[Soho]

Originally posted by SpicyCrab:

it's more like a board game

I've always thought this very thing- it plays more like a board game

And playing with a familiar group on voice-coms would be ideal for exactly what you said, making deals... back-stabbing

I have played random lobby games and they are nearly just as good- people do make deals and back-stab. Unfortunately, though I don't think its avoidable and it does happen in all RTS titles, you get a lot of leavers and there is 'king-making' very often (king-making: multiple players supporting one player so you can't really beat them, whether or not it is in anyone's interest... this can still be fun though too, when you beat them anyway)

[Kōizumi Seishiro]

Word! Totally agree

[Lord_Chencho]

I've just returned Age of Empires IV because is as shallow as rock paper sccissors game. Dune Spice Wars is a step forwards and I love it..

[Dr.Rabies]

It's a truly unique game, and I believe it's a type of game that is unprecedented it covers a wide range of categories of strategy games. yes it does feel like a board game indeed

[grand high siegemaster]

Originally posted by Lord_Chencho:

I've just returned Age of Empires IV because is as shallow as rock paper sccissors game. Dune Spice Wars is a step forwards and I love it..

AOE4 is the only truly good RTS released this last decade even though it's still flawed. Dune is a fun game but it's slow pace will definitely hurt it's growth. Most people consider AOE4 to be a snails pace. There's not really any reason to pit these two games against each other when they basically aren't the same genre.

[Dr.Rabies]

Originally posted by Narwhal:

AOE4 is the only truly good RTS released this last decade even though it's still flawed. Dune is a fun game but it's slow pace will definitely hurt it's growth. Most people consider AOE4 to be a snails pace. There's not really any reason to pit these two games against each other when they basically aren't the same genre.

If they just add more fun explosive animations for weapons and maybe some more missiles units and make battles a lil bit faster everyone will be satisfied and it would be rated as overwhelmingly positive... Strange world, it's impossible now to change anything in the mechanics for this game it's out of EA, Have anyone heard anything from the developers? Do they have plans for the future? or that's it?

[Pawel (LINUX)]

Originally posted by Narwhal:

Originally posted by Lord_Chencho:

I've just returned Age of Empires IV because is as shallow as rock paper sccissors game. Dune Spice Wars is a step forwards and I love it..

AOE4 is the only truly good RTS released this last decade even though it's still flawed. Dune is a fun game but it's slow pace will definitely hurt it's growth. Most people consider AOE4 to be a snails pace. There's not really any reason to pit these two games against each other when they basically aren't the same genre.

I believe remake of AOE2 is the best RTS- even DLC is still coming ;-), however AOE4 is fun as well.

Shortly speaking it's poor time for classic RTS.

[grand high siegemaster]

Originally posted by Pawel (LINUX):

Originally posted by Narwhal:

AOE4 is the only truly good RTS released this last decade even though it's still flawed. Dune is a fun game but it's slow pace will definitely hurt it's growth. Most people consider AOE4 to be a snails pace. There's not really any reason to pit these two games against each other when they basically aren't the same genre.

I believe remake of AOE2 is the best RTS- even DLC is still coming ;-), however AOE4 is fun as well.

Shortly speaking it's poor time for classic RTS.

Well okay, I wasn't going to consider the remaster a new game since it's a tried and true classic. But yeah the AOE series is doing really well even with the hiccups of AOE4. Dune is a worthy addition even though it's a hybrid. I guess maybe the market for people who want a real-time game of this pace is different.

[SpicyCrab]

Definitely shines as a 4 player game with everybody on voice together. Consistent group of players, etc... I absolutely see this as a board game type experience and through that lens I believe it is one of the most successful games i've played in a long loong long time.

[thorvindr]

I usually describe it as being like Risk, but in realtime. So you have territories that you conquer, but your armies actually need to walk across them to get where they're going.

And of course there's more to it than just the Risk-type boardgame; that's just the basic idea.

[Iron Horse]

I would describe it more like Rise of Nations. It is just missing a something. A something that makes the later game feel more fulfilling.

[thorvindr]

Originally posted by Iron Horse:

I would describe it more like Rise of Nations. It is just missing a something. A something that makes the later game feel more fulfilling.

Absolutely correct. It is like Rise of Nations, or the original Dune PC game (not Dune 2).

[Iron Horse]

I remember the original Dune to be more like Command and Conquer. The campaign was pretty cool. This is lacking one in that context.

[Will]

I agree, it's like a realtime board game where everyone is taking all their turns at once ,but somehow it works and is glorious .

[Shin]

Originally posted by Pawel (LINUX):

Shortly speaking it's poor time for classic RTS.

I recommend checking out D.O.R.F. if you look for classic RTS style games. It is still in development but already looks promising so far. But it will probably be out in 1-2 years though because it is made by a very small team. At least that is something to look forward for classic RTS enjoyers.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2388620/DORF_RealTime_Strategic_Conflict/