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Quade Apr 9, 2022 @ 7:08pm
Why there is no House Ordos?
As the Title says why we are missing House Ordos while the we got two other Popular ones?
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Technically, House Ordos wasn't really a Dune thing. They were created for the Westwood games as a filler faction so this developer might now have the rights to the House Ordos IP.
Brohan Creates Apr 10, 2022 @ 6:34am 
It was mainly used in the older Dune games that westwood made and now owned by Electronic Arts. Also, Ordos wasn't really in the lore as many have said. It was a filler for the video games as added factions to choose from.
Deatheye Apr 10, 2022 @ 2:24pm 
Originally posted by CyberCat:
Technically, House Ordos wasn't really a Dune thing. They were created for the Westwood games as a filler faction so this developer might now have the rights to the House Ordos IP.
Originally posted by GohanF22:
It was mainly used in the older Dune games that westwood made and now owned by Electronic Arts. Also, Ordos wasn't really in the lore as many have said. It was a filler for the video games as added factions to choose from.

That is wrong, house Ordos first appeared in the Dune Encyclopedia in 1884, approved by Frank Herbert himself.
Last edited by Deatheye; Apr 10, 2022 @ 2:27pm
Brohan Creates Apr 10, 2022 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Deatheye:
Originally posted by CyberCat:
Technically, House Ordos wasn't really a Dune thing. They were created for the Westwood games as a filler faction so this developer might now have the rights to the House Ordos IP.
Originally posted by GohanF22:
It was mainly used in the older Dune games that westwood made and now owned by Electronic Arts. Also, Ordos wasn't really in the lore as many have said. It was a filler for the video games as added factions to choose from.

That is wrong, house Ordos first appeared in the Dune Encyclopedia in 1884, approved by Frank Herbert himself.

it may have been approved, but it doesnt mean that it is a main faction of the lore. only main factions that were mainly said constantly, were atreides, harkonnen, fremen and major smugglers hence why those are the 4 in this game.
Deatheye Apr 10, 2022 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by GohanF22:
Originally posted by Deatheye:


That is wrong, house Ordos first appeared in the Dune Encyclopedia in 1884, approved by Frank Herbert himself.

it may have been approved, but it doesnt mean that it is a main faction of the lore. only main factions that were mainly said constantly, were atreides, harkonnen, fremen and major smugglers hence why those are the 4 in this game.
Correct, Ordos are not a main faction, but they are a part of the Dune universe and not just made up my Westwood.
»ƲßƐƦ« Apr 11, 2022 @ 7:12pm 
ORDOS... DLC :emofdr:
Brohan Creates Apr 11, 2022 @ 7:13pm 
Originally posted by »ƲßƐƦ«:
ORDOS... DLC :emofdr:

if anything, yeah. it will be maybe a possible dlc faction drop in the future.
Voss Apr 12, 2022 @ 1:14am 
Originally posted by Deatheye:
Originally posted by CyberCat:
Technically, House Ordos wasn't really a Dune thing. They were created for the Westwood games as a filler faction so this developer might now have the rights to the House Ordos IP.
Originally posted by GohanF22:
It was mainly used in the older Dune games that westwood made and now owned by Electronic Arts. Also, Ordos wasn't really in the lore as many have said. It was a filler for the video games as added factions to choose from.

That is wrong, house Ordos first appeared in the Dune Encyclopedia in 1884, approved by Frank Herbert himself.

also about the encyclopedia

"THE DUNE ENCYCLOPEDIA reflects an alternate "DUNE universe" which did not necessarily represent the "canon" created by Frank Herbert."
Sardaukar Apr 12, 2022 @ 6:09am 
Ordos (as much as I love em) are not Canon.
Deatheye Apr 12, 2022 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by Stinky:
Originally posted by Deatheye:


That is wrong, house Ordos first appeared in the Dune Encyclopedia in 1884, approved by Frank Herbert himself.

also about the encyclopedia

"THE DUNE ENCYCLOPEDIA reflects an alternate "DUNE universe" which did not necessarily represent the "canon" created by Frank Herbert."
The devs already went off-canon, so there's nothing that speaks against Ordos in the game.
zombiewarrior07 Apr 12, 2022 @ 7:38am 
What about the Spacing Guild? Will they be in the game?
Nvsble Apr 12, 2022 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by zombiewarrior07:
What about the Spacing Guild? Will they be in the game?
They will be as non-player faction. In gameplay trailer espionage mechanics were shown. Player can assign agents to collect recon data from guild
Silvertongued Devil Apr 12, 2022 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Quade:
As the Title says why we are missing House Ordos while the we got two other Popular ones?

Basically: Whether you think Ordos are canon or not, the Westwood interpretation of Ordos is the intellectual property of either EA (who bought Westwood & their library) or the devs from Westwood who made it. You'd also likely need the Herbert Estate's approval for a mostly-non-canonical faction.

It's a bunch of legal grief that could open up the company to lawsuits if any of those three groups aren't happy about that IP being used. All it takes is one of them with even the slightest claim to the IP to trap the game in development hell - no profits, no release.

It's just not worth it. I've seen cases like that that resulted in lawsuits that lasted over twenty years and still only ended with the companies settling out of court. It can be an absolute slog to go through.
Last edited by Silvertongued Devil; Apr 12, 2022 @ 12:27pm
"Ordos out"
Glad I read this before buying, no ordos mean no purchase from me
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