To end all misunderstandings

[Khorneflakes]

From all my RTS experience since Dune 2 on Sega Genesis and up to this day, I can say confidently, this game is NOT a classic Westwood or EA RTS, like Dune 2, Dune 2000, Generals, Red Alert, Tiberium Wars and all similar games.

This is city building/economical strategy game with mobile like interface and artstyle, most likely with simplified combat.

Like it or hate it, your choice, but don't make mistake, this is not a Dune 2 reiteration with modern graphics like some of us including me thought at the start.

[JayTwoPointOh [Shiro]]

Originally posted by Khorneflakes:

From all my RTS experience since Dune 2 on Sega Genesis and up to this day, I can say confidently, this game is NOT a classic Westwood or EA RTS, like Dune 2, Dune 2000, Generals, Red Alert, Tiberium Wars and all similar games.

This is city building/economical strategy game with mobile like interface and artstyle, most likely with simplified combat.

Like it or hate it, your choice, but don't make mistake, this is not a Dune 2 reiteration with modern graphics like some of us including me thought at the start.

The interface would NEVER work on mobile, there's nothing mobile about it.

Dune: Spice Wars is a 4X/RTS hybrid, let's hold off on "Ending all misunderstandings" until the game has released and people have a good understanding of how it plays based on actual experience, not a very small amount of pre-curated, hands-off video content.

James

[Allwynd]

Mobile interface? Looks like a regular desktop interface for something like a 4x game. A mobile interface would mean that it emulates a controller on the screen.

[Celludriel]

Well it definetly won't run on mobile. It's clearly based on

https://store.steampowered.com/app/466560/Northgard/

Which is not a bad game. I personally love it. I just can't get my friends hot for it for multiplayer games. It's still very niche gameplay. The AI also like so many RTS is not the greatest and soooo easy to exploit.

I'm sure this game will be fun but it is not the good old and trusted dune, simply as that, it has pieces of 4x and pieces of RTS, just won't excel at either, which is fine ...

You want to know what to expect, try northguard I guess, it's really not a bad game, just ... different ... but we all know different is bad right :D

[JayTwoPointOh [Shiro]]

Originally posted by Celludriel:

Well it definetly won't run on mobile. It's clearly based on

https://store.steampowered.com/app/466560/Northgard/

Which is not a bad game. I personally love it. I just can't get my friends hot for it for multiplayer games. It's still very niche gameplay. The AI also like so many RTS is not the greatest and soooo easy to exploit.

I'm sure this game will be fun but it is not the good old and trusted dune, simply as that, it has pieces of 4x and pieces of RTS, just won't excel at either, which is fine ...

You want to know what to expect, try northguard I guess, it's really not a bad game, just ... different ... but we all know different is bad right :D

It is definitely not based on and is about as far from Northgard as it gets. Northgard is an RTS with 4X elements, D:SW is a 4X with RTS elements, and they have almost no overlap in gameplay whatsoever.

This will be apparent when more gameplay comes out (or when we release later this month), but don't make assumptions based on our having developed both.

James

[ᑕYᗷEᖇᑕᗩT]

Dude, you literally whined about the same thing back in Feb or did you think I forgot? Stop spamming your nonsense, U don't like the game don't buy it! And here's a link of your previous rant just in case you need to be refreshed...

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1605220/discussions/0/3184611586760862284/

[Khorneflakes]

Originally posted by JayTwoPointOh Shiro:

Originally posted by Khorneflakes:

From all my RTS experience since Dune 2 on Sega Genesis and up to this day, I can say confidently, this game is NOT a classic Westwood or EA RTS, like Dune 2, Dune 2000, Generals, Red Alert, Tiberium Wars and all similar games.

This is city building/economical strategy game with mobile like interface and artstyle, most likely with simplified combat.

Like it or hate it, your choice, but don't make mistake, this is not a Dune 2 reiteration with modern graphics like some of us including me thought at the start.

The interface would NEVER work on mobile, there's nothing mobile about it.

Dune: Spice Wars is a 4X/RTS hybrid, let's hold off on "Ending all misunderstandings" until the game has released and people have a good understanding of how it plays based on actual experience, not a very small amount of pre-curated, hands-off video content.

James

Almost every screenshot with UI on main page, 8 different currencies, this is staple of mobile games and exactly how mobile UI look.

Screenshot 6, Leto portrait, simplified cartoonish artstyle, look very mobile like, if you ever browsed games on Google Play, you will notice that.

I don't care if it mobile game or not, it looks like mobile game anyway and I'm not only one who noticed that, there is a number of other posts which telling the same.

We are not a hive mind to share one thought, different people saying that game looks like mobile.

Anyway, my reason for making this post was to warn players to not make mistake and think that this game is remake of old Westwood Dune games like many old RTS fans thought, and I hope I managed to do that.

[cannabaceae]

Originally posted by CyberCat:

Dude, you literally whined about the same thing back in Feb or did you think I forgot? Stop spamming your nonsense, U don't like the game don't buy it! And here's a link of your previous rant just in case you need to be refreshed...

wow yeah, why is this guy going on and on about a game that he clearly does not like and is not going buy before the game is even out? i think it looks like a great idea, and the game devs have a great track record, but will wait until i actually play it in a couple weeks before commenting...

[ᑕYᗷEᖇᑕᗩT]

Originally posted by cannabaceae:

Originally posted by CyberCat:

Dude, you literally whined about the same thing back in Feb or did you think I forgot? Stop spamming your nonsense, U don't like the game don't buy it! And here's a link of your previous rant just in case you need to be refreshed...

wow yeah, why is this guy going on and on about a game that he clearly does not like and is not going buy before the game is even out? i think it looks like a great idea, and the game devs have a great track record, but will wait until i actually play it in a couple weeks before commenting...

There are a ton of games I don't care for but I generally wait till AFTER they come out and the reviews and game play hit YT before I start to formulate an opinion. After I play the a game and exp it for myself is when I'll know for certain and can feel confident commenting on the game to others.

This guy clearly thinks his 1300 hours in one loosely considered RTS game, makes him an expert in the entire genre and who's opinion should matter enough for others to take into consideration when looking at this game. Now had the game been out for a week or so and he put some hours into it then maybe I'd take his rants a little more seriously but as they stand now, he's just some nostalgia fanboy pining for the old days and not happy that someone took his precious IP and made it into something that modern gamer's might enjoy.

[Gurney's Pug]

Originally posted by Khorneflakes:

Almost every screenshot with UI on main page, 8 different currencies, this is staple of mobile games and exactly how mobile UI look.

Screenshot 6, Leto portrait, simplified cartoonish artstyle, look very mobile like, if you ever browsed games on Google Play, you will notice that.

What are you talking about? You're bringing up a portrait art style as part of the user interface? Do you realise how ignorant that sounds?

[Piderman]

Originally posted by Khorneflakes:

Anyway, my reason for making this post was to warn players to not make mistake and think that this game is remake of old Westwood Dune games like many old RTS fans thought, and I hope I managed to do that.

Confusing this game with a mere reboot of the westwood games is nothing but a sign of utter stupidity, because it means these people did no research what so ever and probably didnt even care to read even a single word on the store page or even the Faq that is posted in this Forum.
And its rater pointless to make a thread like this one here, someone that didnt even read the store page, wont read this thread either.
Dont get me wrong, i loved the Westwood Games as much as the next guy, but this here wants to be something different and thats a good thing.

[PlayL4D2!]

Dune 2 was the first & only RTS I played. I found it so good that I never wanted to play another one, because to me a RTS meant the Dune universe, it was that or nothing.

So I would be all for a remake of it, yet I don't mind if it's different, especially when I ALSO loved Cryo's Dune, which was a very dumbed down RTS/adventure game hybrid. But it was GOOD.

[Revenge]

If you have looked at any of the game info drops, videos, photos, etc, and thought "this looks like a dune 2 rts remake" or "this looks like a cell phone game", then I might suggest you're not all that bright. But being the classy individual that I am, I will just say... the game looks amazing, its going to play amazing, and you're going to be missing out on a great game.

[ElPrezCBF]

RTS, city building and 4x are different genres although elements of each may be found in the others. If you've played a 4x like Endless Legend/Space, Civ or Stellaris, you'll know this is not a Dune RTS remake. If you've played city builders like Anno and Tropico or tycoon games like Planet Zoo, you'll also know this doesn't look quite like them. While it's too early to make any definite conclusions at this stage, you should be clear about fundamental features associated with each genre before making this post.

Edit: To the devs, I know your store pg says this is "A real-time strategy game with 4X elements". This may be interpreted as this being an RTS game first and foremost with some 4x aspects. As a 4x fan who grew up with RTS (including Dune 2), I'm pretty hyped but also have certain expectations to be candid about it. I'm not looking for something even remotely close to Northgard, which is predominantly RTS, but rather strategic colonization, diplomacy, trade, tech trees and of course battles/invasions (no cheesy capture resource point and fortify tactics like in a traditional RTS) typical of a 4x game. Hope you don't mind my honesty but if you intend for this to be a 4x, you may wish to consider changing your description to "A 4x game with RTS elements" instead. Just my humble opinion.

[Lord Bubba]

Oh, for God sake's...

[Brohan Creates]

I dont get how you people would think this be like Dune 2000 or Emperor. It clearly is more like Civ, Stellaris or any other 4x game. Now if you want a DUNE 2000 game, go play that new one being made by Blackbird. It literally has CnC style game play and will give you your "dune 2000" reminiscing although its not dune. Its a whole new IP, which I will be getting that game too to try it out, but wont give up on this game.