Indestructable Carthag

[soljarka]

My Atreides troops can't damage Carthag. I got wardens, Landsraad guards and heavy weapon dudes, can't even scratch it. Carthag has all the military buildings complete including the one that improves the defense of the main base. There is a spying operation that can make the main base more vulnerable, haven't tried it yet. But even without it, the main base shouldn't be invulnerable I think.

[Big Slim]

I was able to kill it, but then I couldn't kill the final base belonging to the Freemen.

[Angry Obnoxious Goose]

Originally posted by Big Slim:

I was able to kill it, but then I couldn't kill the final base belonging to the Freemen.

Gordon Freeman?

[Bomoo]

Originally posted by soljarka:

My Atreides troops can't damage Carthag. I got wardens, Landsraad guards and heavy weapon dudes, can't even scratch it. Carthag has all the military buildings complete including the one that improves the defense of the main base. There is a spying operation that can make the main base more vulnerable, haven't tried it yet. But even without it, the main base shouldn't be invulnerable I think.

How long have you been whacking on it? Heavy weapon dudes should be able to degrade its armor over time, allowing your other units to damage it.

[JP]

Here is one idea - prerequisite for destroying Main base should be spy operation?

[ArcaniteM]

Abuse the nukes. Just nuke em 4 times and you dont even need to attack them manually.

[Katitoff]

Originally posted by JP:

Here is one idea - prerequisite for destroying Main base should be spy operation?

You already have a spy operation that makes it much more vulnerable, you also have landsraad resolution to make it take 100% more damage and its not exactly super easy to get to other factions base, especially playing on hard or above.

[JP]

Originally posted by Katitoff:

Originally posted by JP:

Here is one idea - prerequisite for destroying Main base should be spy operation?

You already have a spy operation that makes it much more vulnerable, you also have landsraad resolution to make it take 100% more damage and its not exactly super easy to get to other factions base, especially playing on hard or above.

Spy operation do not work at hard and insane diff. I had played as Fremen but could not do anything to Harkonnen base.Resoultion is like catching bird with hands.
Maybe fix this at any diff. and multiplayer - in order to destroy main base spy operation is prerequisite - forget specific resolution and rise the price for that specific ops?
Easy and Medium does not need spy ops. base can be destroyed with bare hands.

[Gaz]

Originally posted by JP:

Originally posted by Katitoff:

You already have a spy operation that makes it much more vulnerable, you also have landsraad resolution to make it take 100% more damage and its not exactly super easy to get to other factions base, especially playing on hard or above.

Spy operation do not work at hard and insane diff. I had played as Fremen but could not do anything to Harkonnen base.Resoultion is like catching bird with hands.
Maybe fix this at any diff. and multiplayer - in order to destroy main base spy operation is prerequisite - forget specific resolution and rise the price for that specific ops?
Easy and Medium does not need spy ops. base can be destroyed with bare hands.

So let me get this straight. Your complaint is that when playing on hard, its harder to destroy the base? What do you mean they do not work? is it possible it failed and you should try again?

[JP]

No it cannot be destroyed at hard and insane diff, nothing happens damage indicator above base do not move at all when army is attacking it + spy ops is used.
I just posted this at devs discord.
From competitive perspetive I think that spec ops. must be prerequisite in order to start destroying main base with min. army that would start inflicting damage.
Specific ops should cost more (intel) not Solaris which in turn would require from player to carefully plan Intel bases at villiages.And that would be example of book following as backstabbing is big part of Dune.

[Elindos Phar & Family]

I destroyed bases in normal, hard and insane using only heavy weapons guys and warrior troops. i mentioned it because other players mentioned atomics but it was not required.

You need to put the armor down, and then put the HP down. The armor is done by several heavy weapons guy firing at it and not being hit.

So, unless you had an error, I don't know what happened.
It's useful to use spies too by the way (the ones that disable half of the base power).

[JP]

It could be a bug,as nothing worked so I went for hegemonic victory.

...bug or not each single game keeps me on my toes,good good staff.

[OriginalNoober]

I think the hp indicator has a max value that is lower than the actual hp of the base, especially if they have all bonuses from buildings+tech(?). Select the region and you can see HP and armor as numbers.

[Tenshin51]

Originally posted by Elindos Phar:

I destroyed bases in normal, hard and insane using only heavy weapons guys and warrior troops. i mentioned it because other players mentioned atomics but it was not required.

You need to put the armor down, and then put the HP down. The armor is done by several heavy weapons guy firing at it and not being hit.

So, unless you had an error, I don't know what happened.
It's useful to use spies too by the way (the ones that disable half of the base power).

Definitely this! Check unit stats usually they have a trait called Demolition Team. This unit usually the one that deal damage to capital armor. With armor getting damage your other units can also deal damage to the capital. Capital building have a ton of armor

Units w/ Demolition Team traits for each faction:
Atreides-Heavy Weapon Squad
Harkonnen- Gunner
Smuggler-Wrecker
Fremen-Skirmisher

You also need a tank unit to soak up Capital attack usually your late game unit if you are lucky you can be Judge of the Council. Also a village near the capital to heal your units.

Using espionage can also heal your units while attacking the capital.

[NZK]

Originally posted by ArcaniteM:

Abuse the nukes. Just nuke em 4 times and you dont even need to attack them manually.

Pleased someone else threw this comment out there. Once I hit Atomics phase, finishing the game was pretty straight forward.