GOG - Make this available on GOG also!

[Aedyr]

title!

[Sielle]

Will it have cross-play with GOG and other storefronts, or will they be separated? If there isn't cross-play then don't release it elsewhere.

[supernet2]

Here to ask the same thing, as i prefer buying through gog. I already bought plenty of other titles through gog, hoping to see this there, please let us know when and if it is intending to come to go, cause ill pick it up in a heart beat when i hear about it. Thanks!

[Aron_dc]

JayTwoPointOh Shiro eredeti hozzászólása:

We'll be looking at other storefronts once we release out of Early Access (maybe sooner if we see enough demand). So it's very possible we end up on there :)

James

+1 waiting for GOG release. I just prefer buying my games there and it would be great if you can manage to release it even as EA there.

[Nova Pyxis]

+1 for GOG release!

[juxstapo]

++gog.
Not for piracy yoooouu silly people...
But because I legitimately like to keep archival copies of the offline installers for my favorite games .. I live in Mayberry and the innerweb takes a crap sometimes.
(This is a highly selective list, mind you. Right now it encompasses the Panzer/Fantasy generals, the Dark Forces series, Battle sector and 40k Armageddon.. I would happily add this gem to my survive-the-apoc game collection however)

[Kenuty]

juxstapo eredeti hozzászólása:

++gog.
Not for piracy yoooouu silly people...
But because I legitimately like to keep archival copies of the offline installers for my favorite games .. I live in Mayberry and the innerweb takes a crap sometimes.
(This is a highly selective list, mind you. Right now it encompasses the Panzer/Fantasy generals, the Dark Forces series, Battle sector and 40k Armageddon.. I would happily add this gem to my survive-the-apoc game collection however)

but sounds like piracy/advertisements bot for me, for many others especially when you sit around the steam forum to beg for it on another platform which doesn't include drm where many people just pirate games.. Some people like you are legitimate reasons but that's like the 10%

[Tellashim[GIF]]

Kenuty eredeti hozzászólása:

juxstapo eredeti hozzászólása:

++gog.
Not for piracy yoooouu silly people...
But because I legitimately like to keep archival copies of the offline installers for my favorite games .. I live in Mayberry and the innerweb takes a crap sometimes.
(This is a highly selective list, mind you. Right now it encompasses the Panzer/Fantasy generals, the Dark Forces series, Battle sector and 40k Armageddon.. I would happily add this gem to my survive-the-apoc game collection however)

but sounds like piracy/advertisements bot for me, for many others especially when you sit around the steam forum to beg for it on another platform which doesn't include drm where many people just pirate games.. Some people like you are legitimate reasons but that's like the 10%

Then why is Gog such a major platform and making money? If what you're saying is true, gog wouldn't exist. Period. They wouldn't make any money, at all. And they do.

[MainframeMouse]

Kenuty eredeti hozzászólása:

juxstapo eredeti hozzászólása:

++gog.
Not for piracy yoooouu silly people...
But because I legitimately like to keep archival copies of the offline installers for my favorite games .. I live in Mayberry and the innerweb takes a crap sometimes.
(This is a highly selective list, mind you. Right now it encompasses the Panzer/Fantasy generals, the Dark Forces series, Battle sector and 40k Armageddon.. I would happily add this gem to my survive-the-apoc game collection however)

but sounds like piracy/advertisements bot for me, for many others especially when you sit around the steam forum to beg for it on another platform which doesn't include drm where many people just pirate games.. Some people like you are legitimate reasons but that's like the 10%

I'm curious

Is this something that you actually believe, or are you just trolling.

If its the former, its ridiculously easy to give you evidence that your belief is wrong

if its the Later, Grow the fudge up!

[Candesco]

I don't know what i'm reading here. GOG that is being accused of faciliting piracy because they remove DRM? That must be then millenium kids who don't know any better then games contains DRM and online activation. Well, newsflash, earlier on games didn't need any online activation crap or that you need to be online all the time. Back in the 90's there was no denuvo, there was no steam and there was even no securom yet. You got your games on a cd or dvd, put it in the dvd-rom, install and then just play. Also games then were then full games. No dlc crap, no episodic garbage, but the full package. You got expansions then, which only extended the already big amount of gameplay, such as lord of destruction for Diablo II or Tribunal and Bloodmoon for The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. Nowadays you only get a shallow game and you need to buy 100 dlc's to complete the game, plus you need to be 24/7 online to play, you may only install it on 5 computers and in the meantime they collect your data in the background while running the game.
And that's where GOG comes in. By removing most of the drm and providing offline installers they give back the gaming as it should be. Oh sure, they also have their own client called Galaxy, which is needed for multiplayer features. GOG Galaxy likes alot to steam in that way, but then less agressive. By the way, GOG is part of CDProjekt, who's Red division is responsible for The Witcher.

[Ghojo]

Candesco eredeti hozzászólása:

GOG that is being accused of faciliting piracy because they remove DRM? That must be then millenium kids who don't know any better then games contains DRM and online activation.

This pretty much, us older generation know that putting games on GOG has no real impact on piracy. People buy at GOG because they love the advantages of it and because they want the developers to get more money for their work.

People who believe that Steam / DRMs prevent piracy have obviously no clue about how easily and quickly the cracking scene is circumventing these methods. It usually takes them a week or two to crack a game, for them it's a sport first and foremost.
Even the extreme DRMs like Denuvo get regularily cracked within a couple weeks.

The only way to minimize piracy is to A) create a good game and B) be a good, community friendly developer. Then people will choose not to pirate the gam, even if they easily could.

[Angelblue]

Ghojo eredeti hozzászólása:

Candesco eredeti hozzászólása:

GOG that is being accused of faciliting piracy because they remove DRM? That must be then millenium kids who don't know any better then games contains DRM and online activation.

This pretty much, us older generation know that putting games on GOG has no real impact on piracy. People buy at GOG because they love the advantages of it and because they want the developers to get more money for their work.

People who believe that Steam / DRMs prevent piracy have obviously no clue about how easily and quickly the cracking scene is circumventing these methods. It usually takes them a week or two to crack a game, for them it's a sport first and foremost.
Even the extreme DRMs like Denuvo get regularily cracked within a couple weeks.

The only way to minimize piracy is to A) create a good game and B) be a good, community friendly developer. Then people will choose not to pirate the gam, even if they easily could.

I confirm what you say.
To give a recent example. Gog made me discover the game "The entropy center" (that I would certainly never have noticed on steam because of the quantity of games) that I don't know. When I saw the pictures and video of the game, it made me want to buy it. Not only for its quality, but above all because the developer made the effort to release it on gog and I wanted to support him to thank him. I loved the game and I don't regret my purchase.

But if I had seen it on steam, I wouldn't have bought it because of the drm (I would have waited as always for the sales to buy it).

All this to say that, even if the sales on gog are modest. Many people are willing to pay full price to thank the effort and courage of a studio that releases its games drmfree.

One more thing. We must not forget that video games are an art like cinema or music.

So we must preserve video games. And to have discussed with people who deal with that. They confirm me that it is more and more difficult to preserve the video game because of all the drm.

[Tshcktall]

+1 gog

[Bambi]

N3tRunn3r eredeti hozzászólása:

GOG is a dreamland to pirate games with ease...

There are generic steam emulators so steam drm is not much different really.
If people believe in the project then they will buy it.

[Bambi]

My big concern is that they will add steam workshop support which will lock all other customers out of the modding community.

[MainframeMouse]

Ghojo eredeti hozzászólása:

People who believe that Steam / DRMs prevent piracy have obviously no clue about how easily and quickly the cracking scene is circumventing these methods. It usually takes them a week or two to crack a game, for them it's a sport first and foremost.
Even the extreme DRMs like Denuvo get regularily cracked within a couple weeks.

The only way to minimize piracy is to A) create a good game and B) be a good, community friendly developer. Then people will choose not to pirate the gam, even if they easily could.

Steams DRM is nearly 20 years old and was broken not long after.

Valve did the cat and mouse chase for a few years with CEG, but gave up very soon after.

This means piracy groups then built a suite of tools that allows Steam games to be hacked with all the complexity of warming a microwave meal. Swap a file, type in a number, and if it has CEG run an automated patch program.

It doesn't take weeks to crack a Steam game, it takes seconds.

The longest part is wrapping it up in a distribution package with any 3rd party libraries (such as DirectX or Visual Studio) and of course the time to upload it.

Most Steam games are up on dodgy sites with in an hour or two of release.

Ironically, A GoG releases take much longer (if at all) to get on such sites. None of the major hacking groups will upload a GoG version. The only exception to this is when the GoG version is the only version or when its contains major fixes (such as for old games like Spore). Most GOG releases that get uploaded are by Wannabe pirates, and get very few seeds.

If you look at any major site and list PC games by Seed, you'll see that there are very few GoG games listed. Last time I looked, there was only 1 in the top 50 (a duplicate of a higher ranked Steam copy) and only 12 in the first 200 entries (all but 2 had higher seeded Steam versions)

As I said, hard evidence completely disproves that releasing on GoG increases the rate of Piracy.