game runs like doodoo

[Muttley]

PLEASE fix that. I'm already falling in love with this game but it runs like ♥♥♥♥

[Edmon]

Just to help us out, what are your system specifications? Specifically your graphics card is helpful information.

[Muttley]

Originally posted by Edmon:

Just to help us out, what are your system specifications? Specifically your graphics card is helpful information.

I have an i5-6402P (4 core), a GTX 960 and 16GB of RAM

And before you say anything, yes. I Understand my system is old. But the game is barely pushing my stuff when I last checked my Task Manager. So I can't help but feel it's something with the game. Especially when games like Red Dragon seem to run way better on higher settings. If this is an engine issue then I guess sucks for me but hey. Being silent never made someone look into it

[Radegast]

:-D

[Adam Beckett]

CPU is 'good enough' - GPU cannot keep up with this demo, imho. The game is still not 'optimized' ... but 2GB VRAM is asking for trouble with 'new' games. 960 is perfectly fine for 'older' titles.

Is your VRAM filled to the max? Even on lowest settings the game is drawing way too much "Watts-per-frame", currently. This happens when developers are using a 'general-purpose' engine, like Unity and allowing it's renderer to render 'freely'.

My tip for the demo: lower resolution, lower settings AND use MSI Afterburner/RTSS to cap the framerate to 30FPS. (In game 'half refresh rate' setting has inconsistent frametime. Using MSI/RTSS has stable frametime 30FPS@33.3ms.

[Muttley]

Originally posted by Adam Beckett:

CPU is 'good enough' - GPU cannot keep up with this demo, imho. The game is still not 'optimized' ... but 2GB VRAM is asking for trouble with 'new' games. 960 is perfectly fine for 'older' titles.

Is your VRAM filled to the max? Even on lowest settings the game is drawing way too much "Watts-per-frame", currently. This happens when developers are using a 'general-purpose' engine, like Unity and allowing it's renderer to render 'freely'.

My tip for the demo: lower resolution, lower settings AND use MSI Afterburner/RTSS to cap the framerate to 30FPS. (In game 'half refresh rate' setting has inconsistent frametime. Using MSI/RTSS has stable frametime 30FPS@33.3ms.

had afterburner but never touched it due to not knowing how to work it. will give a look though

[Lord_Calidor]

You're comparing a 9 year old game with as yet unreleased one, which looks top notch :-D
Don't want to sound rude, but your PC is hopelessly outdated for a 3D strategy game with lots of units, objects in it. Sorry mate.

That said, if you are loud enough, maybe devs CAN be persuaded to decrease level of detail and requirements even more for lowest settings (if it's technically possible, ofc).

[CrAzZyKiLLa]

I'm surprised that machine will run any new game post 2015. I can see why having issues in an unoptimised demo.

For me games runs just OK, average FPS 40-50 on Med settings. Although still getting some stuttering and visual artefacts. My CPU is my bottleneck and I feel i need an upgrade myself. I love highest graphics settings which I just cant do here yet well, I hope to see further optimisation towards release.

I7-6700K 4Ghz
16GB RAM
RTX 2070 Super
Samsung SSD
Windows 10

[Nox]

Originally posted by Edmon:

Just to help us out, what are your system specifications? Specifically your graphics card is helpful information.

RTX 2060M
i7 - 9750H
16GB RAM
on SSD
Win 10


- stuck around 36 FPS especially zooming freezes the game. More importantly setting changes doesnt improve FPS..

[[1stA]Zap Rowsdower]

Originally posted by Edmon:

Just to help us out, what are your system specifications? Specifically your graphics card is helpful information.

I have a 5800x ryzen and a 3070 ti founders edition, samsung 980 SSD and 32 gb ddr4 RAM. The game goes into the menu, but the loading screen for the demo mission sorta hangs. The game didn't crash per se, seemed like it was still loading but after 5 minutes of waiting I quit out due to my GPU getting really hot and reporting 400 FPS on that loading screen. Whilst loading the main menu it reported 6000 fps. At that point I start getting concerned for my GPU.

Edit: Running on Windows 10

[Adam Beckett]

It is quite easy to setup. Make sure to download it from the 'official website' (to avoid malware):

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html

For many years now, I use Afterburner/RTSS to throttle framerates (instead using Nvidia/AMD controls or in-game graphic settings).

It is a very mature, sophisticated tool by now and not only allows for constant frametimes but also lets you throttle/undervolt your GPU easily, saving Watts and extending the life of your GPUs.

99.999% of all games do not need to use 100% GPU power. Yet, they will (and run badly) if no driver keeps them in check, because - not only THIS demo - but most games are no longer 'optimized' properly. Especially, new, (Indie/newb) developers using Unity or Unreal engines these days have no C++/low-level graphic programming knowledge, but instead just click in it and let 'the engine' do the work for them.

Btw, I myself still use my old GPUs (Nvidia 650 Ti Boost, GTS 450, Radeons ... etc) testing how good 'new' games run on old hardware. Instead a RTX 3080/4080 I bought a $100 GT1030Ti last December and run a 2nd gaming PC. Almost all of my 2000+ Steam games run with it (lowest settings, 720p, 30FPS) and the card never exceeds 30 Watts (40deg Celsius). The only games that won't run well are the one's needing <4GB VRAM ... and a lot of 'Unity Engine' games. Not because 'Unity engine' is 'bad', but because of the (Indie) developers using it badly.

[Muttley]

Originally posted by CrAzZyKiLLa:

I'm surprised that machine will run any new game post 2015. I can see why having issues in an unoptimised demo.

For me games runs just OK, average FPS 40-50 on Med settings. Although still getting some stuttering and visual artefacts. My CPU is my bottleneck and I feel i need an upgrade myself. I love highest graphics settings which I just cant do here yet well, I hope to see further optimisation towards release.

I7-6700K 4Ghz
16GB RAM
RTX 2070 Super
Samsung SSD
Windows 10

I get like, 60FPS on most maps in Tark besides streets. But I agree, even I'm surprised on what I can play

[AKOOMA]

Your pc is old af and probably shouldn't expect to run new games anyway.

✯ CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600x
✯ GPU: Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 3070 MASTER 8GB
✯ RAM: HyperX Fury DDR4 16 GB (Kit 2 x 8 GB) 3200 MHz CL161R x 8 RGB, Black
✯ STORAGE: x2 Kingston A2000 (SA2000M8/1000G) SSD NVMe PCIe M.2 2280, 1 TB
✯ MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Prime B550-Plus
✯ PSU: Seasonic CORE-GM-650 Partial modular PC Power Supply 80PLUS Gold 650 Watt
✯ CASE: Corsair 4000D Airflow Tempered Glass Mid-Tower ATX Case

But yes the game did run MEH, I was playing at 1440p max settings and was not getting 60fps all of the time.

The game absolutely chugged to all hell whenever I would zoom in or out.

[mjmayne]

totally agree with you.
i have an i5-10400 with and 6900xt(yes ik im bottlenecked by cpu im upgrading soon)and i only get around 30fps at 4k high. GPU usage was at 100% but my cpu didnt even hit 20%, tho i barely played yet, i just wanted to check performance before work.

[Wolfito]

Originally posted by Muttley:

Originally posted by Edmon:

Just to help us out, what are your system specifications? Specifically your graphics card is helpful information.

I have an i5-6402P (4 core), a GTX 960 and 16GB of RAM

And before you say anything, yes. I Understand my system is old. But the game is barely pushing my stuff when I last checked my Task Manager. So I can't help but feel it's something with the game. Especially when games like Red Dragon seem to run way better on higher settings. If this is an engine issue then I guess sucks for me but hey. Being silent never made someone look into it

u must be brain dead...."Graphics: Nvidia 1060 6GB/Radeon RX 590". what do you want to play with 960 lmao

[Boomer 45 Xit]

Memory handling is big issue. With 16GB it stops for swapping every time a new unit is called in. After a while it just crash. Ofc ppl who has virtual memory on ssd wont notice it. The game will just siletly, slowly destroy thay ssd lol.