Defeating Dracula is a grindfest

[Reaptor]

Basically you need 100% blood type (with extra on you due to mechanics, the best potions, the best gems, legendary stygia weapons, a special neck to enter his castle, and even then you have a slim chance on your own to defeat him.
I noticed some of these bosses were a bit spammy and didn't account for your dodge cooldown, but damn is Dracula the worst one.

Im sure there are some V Rising crackheads that played this to death and have it down to an exact science, but as a couple of friends wanting to play through this and not dedicate ourselves to it like a job, this fight was just annoying. About 2/3 of the way through this game became an rng grindfest.

We only beat it by changing the server settings to give us much much more health, because we just wanted to be done with all the grinding.

[Combine54]

It is supposed to be difficult - it is the last boss of the game.
The game did become too grindy on the shards part, yes - you can alleviate that with server settings thankfully, to some extent. But I think that it is perfectly fine that the final boss requires thorough preparation.

[Yumeko]

so you didnt learn anything from seeing draculas attacks over and over again.

[DeadS-Marine]

On normal difficulty poor guy is even easier to beat than Adam, mostly because nearly all of his attacks can be blocked and you have much more space to maneuver. The third stage on brutal is... well, brutal, but no one forces you to play on that difficulty.

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by Kebabmix:

so you didnt learn anything from seeing draculas attacks over and over again.

Nah we did it like 3x and decided we didn't want to sit through that bs.
I mythic raid in WoW and I spend enough time there learning fights and grinding gearing and running M+s that I didn't want to do that in some survival crafting game I just picked up for me and my friend to burn through.

[EVIL Shenanigans]

Originally posted by Combine54:

It is supposed to be difficult - it is the last boss of the game.

They aren't saying that it should be easy, but it also shouldn't be nigh-impossible. I get having the best end-game equipment is a good idea, I even get running through the fight a few times to understand some moves. But that's not enough - you are *required* to use the 'proper' weapons and spells (whatever those might be, gotta find out first), use them to perfection for 10+ min, and successfully dodge or counter every attack made against you ... and if you don't, you fail. How is that *not* setting the bar too high?

I'd throw in Adam too - it's just a bit too ridiculous, beyond a 'nice challenge'. Can it be done solo? - sure, but failing 20+ times before getting lucky enough for long enough is simply not enjoyable for most of us. Just look at the prior fights with Solarus or Talzur - they're practically *easy* in comparison, yet they're also 'supposed to be difficult'.

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by DeadS-Marine:

On normal difficulty poor guy is even easier to beat than Adam

Adam we got in like 4 tries after I told my friend to focus the towers.
I have a much more rounded idea on how to move, dodge, and build my character from experience in arpgs, so I just dpsed the boss.

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by EVIL Shenanigans:

Originally posted by Combine54:

It is supposed to be difficult - it is the last boss of the game.

They aren't saying that it should be easy, but it also shouldn't be nigh-impossible. I get having the best end-game equipment is a requirement, I get even running through it a few times to understand some moves. But that's not enough - you are *required* you use the 'proper' weapons and spells (whatever those might be, gotta find out first), use them to perfection for 10+ min, and successfully dodge or counter every attack made against you ... and if you don't, you fail. How is that *not* setting the bar too high?

This right here. The grind for the items and required things is what makes it the worst fight. Needing a meta loadout with all the perfect gems and items. All while every other boss could just be stomped with literally whatever as long as its appropriate level.

[Star★Dive]

I do have to agree, the hike for Dracula is a bit much. Solarus is barely defeatable by tears and luck, solo, standard rule set. Adam and Drac are just nuts. Adam would be tolerable if he was a little slower, it's okay to keep him powerful, but his speed combined with limited mobility is just artificial difficulty, this is just bad design. Drac is a whole other story, and while yes I did defeat drac, solo.... It was the biggest pain in my neck, literally and figuratively.
The game diff starts at 1, and is a 3 by the end of farbane. From Dunley it creeps up to a 5, and tiptoes to around a high 6 (not quite 7) till you have to fight Solarus, then it jumps up to 9. Drac breaks the metric at 12, when it should cap at 10.

[DeadS-Marine]

Originally posted by Reaptor:

Originally posted by EVIL Shenanigans:

They aren't saying that it should be easy, but it also shouldn't be nigh-impossible. I get having the best end-game equipment is a requirement, I get even running through it a few times to understand some moves. But that's not enough - you are *required* you use the 'proper' weapons and spells (whatever those might be, gotta find out first), use them to perfection for 10+ min, and successfully dodge or counter every attack made against you ... and if you don't, you fail. How is that *not* setting the bar too high?

This right here. The grind for the items and required things is what makes it the worst fight. Needing a meta loadout with all the perfect gems and items. All while every other boss could just be stomped with literally whatever as long as its appropriate level.

But you can change the server settings so you will be getting more loot and all equipment will become unbreakable. And you definitely do not need to roll 30lvl weapons at the shop or gems to beat Dracula. You can even do it frailed with a bit of training.

Don't get me wrong, I also thought that he is hard to beat and everything, but once I've learned his attack patterns, I managed to beat him with my health bar being full at the end of the fight.

[theworld]

Originally posted by EVIL Shenanigans:

They aren't saying that it should be easy, but it also shouldn't be nigh-impossible.

If you're on Normal difficulty then "nigh-impossible" is the last thing I'd use to describe Dracula.

[theworld]

Originally posted by EVIL Shenanigans:

I'd throw in Adam too - it's just a bit too ridiculous, beyond a 'nice challenge'. Can it be done solo? - sure, but failing 20+ times before getting lucky enough for long enough is simply not enjoyable for most of us. Just look at the prior fights with Solarus or Talzur - they're practically *easy* in comparison, yet they're also 'supposed to be difficult'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9QzFYJmybc

It ain't luck, he has patterns like the rest of them.

[theworld]

Originally posted by Star★Dive:

Adam would be tolerable if he was a little slower, it's okay to keep him powerful, but his speed combined with limited mobility is just artificial difficulty, this is just bad design. Drac is a whole other story, and while yes I did defeat drac, solo.... It was the biggest pain in my neck, literally and figuratively.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-003pFARyI

On Normal you certainly don't have limited mobility as they haven't fixed the generator exploit, and I am certain they are aware of it, so it is deliberate. You can start with all generators turned off.

However, here's another video for those who think it's luck. In this one I've figured out that even though you start with a lot of invulnerable generators on Brutal, it makes sense to wait a bit more to pop most of them in one go.

Basically, every time you do get hit in this batlle it's the player's mistake. Every time I get hit here you can see that I have cooldowns to spare.

[theworld]

Originally posted by Reaptor:

This right here. The grind for the items and required things is what makes it the worst fight. Needing a meta loadout with all the perfect gems and items. All while every other boss could just be stomped with literally whatever as long as its appropriate level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCkZKahG7JM

You can do Normal Dracula with crap gear. This video is vs Brutal Dracula with a big GS deficit, mediocre blood, without any good weapons (basic Sanguine), and the only roll on Gems that are really good are cooldown reduction. Also, the potions expired with 4 minutes of the fight still left.

Normal Dracula should be way easier than this because any Brutal boss does +70% damage, and on top of that for every GS below you take +4% dmg and deal -4% dmg. And since healing is capped to 25%, bosses doing low damage are TRIVIAL to outheal, you just have to not get rekt every 5 seconds.

[aSmolGoth]

You keep your mobility for certain things. Otherwise, you use wards. Dracula will ALWAYS use the grab that drains your blood after he reappears after dodging all the bats. The bats are easily dodged like Jade's shots - lead them, then stop or change direction. As soon as the room starts to brighten again, dodge - his grab whiffs.

Most of V Rising's bosses boil down to how well you manage your cooldowns while paying attention to your surroundings so that you can react properly (ward or dodge here or there?).

I would honestly keep an eye open on the YouTuber Crimson Silhouette. They made videos in the past of hitless boss runs with frail blood and 10 gear under. I expect to see a full solo brutal run-down from them in the very least. Watching them play definitely helped me improve my movement, baiting and weapon swap game.

[Reaptor]

Originally posted by theworld:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCkZKahG7JM

You can do Normal Dracula with crap gear

Dude, chill. We get it. You beat him. Near half the comments here are you defending dracula.