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Tohs May 18, 2024 @ 10:31pm
Stuck at Mid 30s, how to progress?
Hey everyone,
Just got this game today and really enjoyed it so far, but I seem to have hit a pretty hard wall in progression in my low to mid 30s. ATM I'm playing on a PVE only server and largely have been playing solo, but am unable to reasonably progress past most of the lvl 30+ bosses. (Had my 1st death on the Bear boss, for reference.) Forum posts have been pretty inconsistent for any advice and most info was about 2 yrs old.

Currently trying to get down Nicholaus the Fallen (paper for books/gear) and Quincey the Bandit King (Iron & general gear progression), but can't get them past about 30-40% HP, even with a few other players helping with several attempts now. So atm the only thing I can think of doing is trying to find more merciless gear (current weapons are copper, with a merciless crossbow and armor is half lvl 3 and half lvl 4, with a lvl 12 ring.

Since there's no leveling/xp or ways to unlock more abilities, I'm a bit at a loss on what to do, especially since there doesn't appear to be any main quest line or side quests. (So weapon and gear drops are basically non-existant). ((On the Broaden Horizons main base quest, so need to kill Quincey to move forward.))


Any help you can give would be appreciated, really feels like I've been stuck for several hours now with no visible method forward. I really want to explore more, but since everything is tied to gearscore/gear level... farming mobs doesn't make much sense. ((Gear level is 38, 20.9 physical power, 373 max HP, 23.4 spell power))
Last edited by Tohs; May 18, 2024 @ 10:35pm
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Kurague May 18, 2024 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by Tohs:
Hey everyone,
Just got this game today and really enjoyed it so far, but I seem to have hit a pretty hard wall in progression in my low to mid 30s. ATM I'm playing on a PVE only server and largely have been playing solo, but am unable to reasonably progress past most of the lvl 30+ bosses. (Had my 1st death on the Bear boss, for reference.) Forum posts have been pretty inconsistent for any advice and most info was about 2 yrs old.

Currently trying to get down Nicholaus the Fallen (paper for books/gear) and Quincey the Bandit King (Iron & general gear progression), but can't get them past about 30-40% HP, even with a few other players helping with several attempts now. So atm the only thing I can think of doing is trying to find more merciless gear (current weapons are copper, with a merciless crossbow and armor is half lvl 3 and half lvl 4, with a lvl 12 ring.

Since there's no leveling/xp or ways to unlock more abilities, I'm a bit at a loss on what to do, especially since there doesn't appear to be any main quest line or side quests. (So weapon and gear drops are basically non-existant). ((On the Broaden Horizons main base quest, so need to kill Quincey to move forward.))


Any help you can give would be appreciated, really feels like I've been stuck for several hours now with no visible method forward. I really want to explore more, but since everything is tied to gearscore/gear level... farming mobs doesn't make much sense.

The game encourages you to find the merciless gear before advancing to the next tier.

If it's normal and you're good and know the game, you can do it without.

If it's brutal, you can't even like that.

So, yes, just go find paper until you make a full set and at least one weapon. Against Nicholaus, I recommend you use the Ghost spell Spear+ Poison skill skulls. As for the weapon, the bow or mace are best bets(Though I personally recommend the bow).

The spear goes through all the enemies, and everyone it hits it grants you a stack of Phantasm, which can reset the cooldown of one of your spells. Then, since NIcholaus just runs and stands around a lot, spam skeleton skulls at him while you clean the skeletons he summons and make distance from them with your bow Q. The skeletons you summon will poke and follow him, besides baiting him to use his explosion attacks against them, making you mostly safe for the whole of the fight.
Nokturnal May 18, 2024 @ 10:43pm 
With certain bosses learning to use the geometry to your advantage and blocking incoming projectiles with whatever Shield spell you have available really helps.

Like with Quincy he loves his spinning attack, which you can avoid by putting a wall between you and him and getting back into the Arena before he resets. Meanwhile all the projectiles he shoots out can be absorbed with a Shield spell.

With this game you really want to only use your dodge for unavoidable big damage moments, which definitely takes some getting used to as most games allow you spam dodge. This game is about learning how to dodge incoming damage without having to rely on your dodge ability, whether that be with Shield Spells, Counter Spells or just basic movement.

When first learning a tough boss just put on some defensive spells like a Counter and a Shield and learn how to negate/avoid all the bosses attacks, don't worry about dpsing when learning. You'll know the openings once you know how to avoid all the incoming damage.

I assume you don't have access to a Prisoner to bleed for blood yet also, so try to get a good high % blood before going into the boss fight as it really helps.

Once you get Quincy down you'll have access to Iron Weapons and most of the early Act 2 bosses can be cheesed in one way or another if you're having problems with them.
Last edited by Nokturnal; May 18, 2024 @ 10:48pm
Terotrous May 18, 2024 @ 10:57pm 
Head north to Dunley and raid the farms near the southern edge of the area. Inside the homes, you can find dressers and bookcases that act like treasure chests. These can contain level 2 skill gems, if you find one for a skill you use this is a big boost.

This is also a good source of copper coins, which you can spend at the shady merchants to buy the other books you need for your armor set, as well as the strength and magic power potions, which can help you beat the bosses.
Hefutoxin May 18, 2024 @ 11:56pm 
Originally posted by Tohs:
Currently trying to get down Nicholaus the Fallen (paper for books/gear)

I circle around him + the area. The skeletons he summons follow in a large group. This allows me to shoot a few ranged spells at him occasionally. I prefer Unholy for the Skeletons it summons, which can also be used against the skeleton group as a distraction.

Sword is the main weapon I use. "Q" Whirlwind ability allows you to move through enemies, so getting surrounded isn't as much of an issue. Long Bow is also good if you can get a shot off.

I don't bother killing the skeletons he summons. He'll summon more to replace the dead ones. However, they are slow and will stop to attack the decoy you leave when you dodge.
Nokturnal May 19, 2024 @ 12:19am 
For Nicolas all his attacks can be outranged, can use the Pink AoE Shatter to clear up the adds and bow or crossbow to keep poking him while staying far enough away.
357 Magnum Ace May 19, 2024 @ 12:39am 
Originally posted by Nokturnal:
For Nicolas all his attacks can be outranged, can use the Pink AoE Shatter to clear up the adds and bow or crossbow to keep poking him while staying far enough away.
Range weapons do make a lot of fights a lot easier. Feels like a low key easy mode.
Tom May 19, 2024 @ 1:07am 
I have no direct tips to offer for that fight, but one general tip for if you ever get stuck is look up an under leveled no hit run for that boss on youtube. Watching a player play perfectly can help a lot

Edit to add. Just a general gameplay tip but you can use your weapon skills as extra dodges, I tend to use Mace Q as it offers really good movement but sadly no I frames. Greatsword, pistols, slashers and I think Axes all have a dash with I frames.
Last edited by Tom; May 19, 2024 @ 1:15am
Nyah May 19, 2024 @ 4:52am 
the shadow dash (dont have the game in english) can help you too, you can dash 2 times.
like it was already said, find some paper and unlock what you need.
good luck and have fun, you still got a long road and as you seem to enjoy the game, will have a lot more fun ;)
Originally posted by Tom:
I have no direct tips to offer for that fight, but one general tip for if you ever get stuck is look up an under leveled no hit run for that boss on youtube. Watching a player play perfectly can help a lot

Edit to add. Just a general gameplay tip but you can use your weapon skills as extra dodges, I tend to use Mace Q as it offers really good movement but sadly no I frames. Greatsword, pistols, slashers and I think Axes all have a dash with I frames.
I couldn't beat Nicholaus, and then I watched one of those vids. Once I saw what I really needed to do was calm down and pay attention, I walked back in and stomped him. I'm seeing a lot of this game really does boil down to "get gud". Sometimes beating a boss really does just take practice.
Hefutoxin May 19, 2024 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by LittleBlueDuneBuggy:
Originally posted by Tom:
I have no direct tips to offer for that fight, but one general tip for if you ever get stuck is look up an under leveled no hit run for that boss on youtube. Watching a player play perfectly can help a lot

Edit to add. Just a general gameplay tip but you can use your weapon skills as extra dodges, I tend to use Mace Q as it offers really good movement but sadly no I frames. Greatsword, pistols, slashers and I think Axes all have a dash with I frames.
I couldn't beat Nicholaus, and then I watched one of those vids. Once I saw what I really needed to do was calm down and pay attention, I walked back in and stomped him. I'm seeing a lot of this game really does boil down to "get gud". Sometimes beating a boss really does just take practice.

For future bosses you may get stuck on: some are easier if you fight from horseback.
Originally posted by Hefutoxin:
Originally posted by LittleBlueDuneBuggy:
I couldn't beat Nicholaus, and then I watched one of those vids. Once I saw what I really needed to do was calm down and pay attention, I walked back in and stomped him. I'm seeing a lot of this game really does boil down to "get gud". Sometimes beating a boss really does just take practice.

For future bosses you may get stuck on: some are easier if you fight from horseback.
Thanks.
GreatPalm May 19, 2024 @ 8:23am 
i'm stuck at lvl47 in brutal. Killed all lvl47 bosses, but cannot kill higher level bosses, including maya that grants t2 research table. Cannot progress without the table.
Linca May 19, 2024 @ 8:41am 
I just beat the bandit king earlier today on normal difficulty after dying to him over and over again.
What worked for me at the end was going for a spellcaster build (full warlock armor set), the ring that gives movement speed (since you need to be faster to walk away from his attacks) and using shadowbolt and chaos volley.
For extra damage inbetween I was using a merciless copper longbow.
I also got lucky and found a 90%+ creature earlier for some extra movement speed.

I essentially only focused on walking out of his target line when he was doing attacks and otherwise spamming the 2 spells + the Q attack of my bow whenever I could.
Evading with space only for the big attacks or when it got close.

Ended up beating him and only getting hit a few times.
Muhspaceaids May 19, 2024 @ 9:02am 
I would really try to push nicholaus first to get the summon undead army ultimate. It is my go to spell.

If you have the merciless crossbow, youre already set. Just work on dodging and then spam the q+e and take shots when you can.

My load out is spell load out is almost always: Chaos Magic - Chaos Volley. Unholy Magic - Corrupted Skull. for Ultimate it is Unholy Magic - Army of the Dead. Those 3 havent let me down once. The Corrupted skull is MAJORLY important imo. It gives you some dudes that the enemy will focus on instead of you to give you some breathing room.

Also, HEALING POTIONS.

I started using them WAY later than i should have. I def regret that. Especially when you use skeleton summons, you end up with a lot of chances to use them.

Make sure your armor i the highest tier you can craft and always prioritizes upgrading your armor. Then take like 2-3 weapons you like using. The Crossbow has done absolutely wonders for me since I picked it up. I like it better then the bow. Now I am using pistols and jeebuz. They are really good.

And last but not least. You DO NOT have to kill them in order. I literally just killed Octavian in act 2, But i already started going into act 3 areas of the map and even had killed Ziva already. Some bosses are much easier than others. You can always skip harder ones and do easier ones (and by that i mean abilities they use. Even higher levels can be easier than lower ones based on attacks). Just make sure to check out what they unlock and see if you could maybe push ahead in like armor or something with a cheeky later unlock
Last edited by Muhspaceaids; May 19, 2024 @ 9:07am
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