V Rising PVP is a griefer's paradise

[paul_orlando]

Just a word of warning to any considering playing pvp in this game. Normal decent people will inevitably quit playing pvp due to the prevalence of ganking and griefing, so all that's left are the griefers who are generally toxic to boot.

I wish the pvp could work like the dev's intended (at contested resources, raiding, etc), but what ends up happening is random ganking where higher level players will attack when you are engaged with a boss or mobs, and when they have no reason to think you have any loot to be gained (people don't carry good loot in a boss fight).

There's also a fair amount of gate-keeping where higher level players will camp a lower level boss or area to prevent other players from progressing.

It just ends up being a stressful exercise in frustration. Don't bother, unless you're into this kind of pvp of course.

[Behemmoth]

Originally posted by Sir Víve:

Originally posted by Mikail:

WHEN YOU DONT PLAY PVP WHY ARE YOU CRYING ABOUT PVP, are you here for attencion or what, no developer does not care about your personal life
neither do we, you choose this, live with it.

It's exactly like I said. Half these anti-PvPers are just delusional story tellers making up stories about their preconceived ideas about how horrible they imagine PvP to be. literally living in imaginary land. Either that, or they die once and exaggerate that crap to the moon.

Some PvP games are done badly, but you will never know the true problems from forums cause half of it is made up dreamland versions of what they think PvP would be if they played it more. They want every fight to be "fair," and PvP shouldn't be "forced," it should be optional, and all the other dumb stuff.

Even when you give them a server where they don't even have to play it, they can't help themselves from crying how bad PvP is and why it shouldn't exist in games.

Funny how you call me anti-PvP when i explicitly said i'm learning the game mechanics and i'll jump onto PvP servers once i understand how this game works.

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by DanMcSharp:

Well, as a prospect buyer, this thread was interesting. Seems like PvP here stands for Player versus Prey, Nothing to write home about.

It's exactly the type of game where the only people who benefit from open PvP are the no-lifer trolls that get off on griefing other players. I guarantee none of those players ever seek out PvP on equal footing when their opponents can actually fight back.
You can always spot them because they're on the forums insisting that thematically there's nothing wrong with stomping a level 10 in endgame gear. In fact, I see several in here.

This type of game only works in PvP if it's heavily moderated and enforced by the server, to keep it relatively even.

[SolusiRadikal]

don't go to public PvP server unless you got fast experience or group to play with

[THEUZIN Fé em Deus é os Z1KA]

Lmao people that keep defending the pvp mode are literal basement dweller with no life trying to cope and justify their pathetic and unhealthy lifestyle while playing in solo/duo server with a +6 clan 16 hrs per day.

[Kurague]

I actually play in a PvP server, but I only have fun when it's duels between people of similar levels and who are not ganking or doing 3v1.

-When you get ganked, it's never fun
-When you get jumped during a boss, specially since I'm playing on Brutal, it's not fun and it can make you rage quit.
-When you get jumped by a level 91 when you're just 55, it's not fun.


What do we take from this? PvP needs more restrictions;
-If you kill a player 10 levels lower than you, they don't lose loot or durability

-Bosses are non-pvp areas if a boss is being fought, or you don't drop stuff if you're fighting a boss and a player hits you(A limitation could be made where if you were in PvP BEFORE you start the boss, you still drop loot so people doesn't run to bosses to not lose their loot by cheesing)

-Every extra person that fights someone who is individual, gives a debuff to all other players in the chal during the fight: For example. If you're two against one, you get the equivalent of 30 Garlic(Receive 30% more damage and deal 15% less). If you're three agains one, 40% Garlic. And if you're 4 against one, you receive 50% Garlic. This would make it so the person could actually defend themselves, and it's still risky to take on a player if you're a moron.

[kritze]

playtime ya... one player on my server is online since 1 day and 9 hours and still playing. i mean wtf?

[JC]

All the whining reminds of WoW and Battlegrounds when "twinks" (low level characters with the best possible gear, even beyond their level) were still a thing.
When they forced twinks to only face twinks ... twinking all but died (went down to one server out of hundreds).
People want an unfair fight when they can win, and hate it when they lose (without a chance). This game is not well engineered to avoid that issue. Even if you put in a level cap for attacking, anyone can strip a little loot off to come down, and still have more spell options, with better gems, and a decidedly unfair advantage. And people LOVE that. Don't claim skill is the issue until they can post k:d ratios adjusted for time played.
The castle raids are a good idea with poor implementation. The boss progression is a neat idea, but forces bottlenecks that can be exploited. The game is entertaining but far from perfect or even a balanced experience.
Still, it has potential, and it has PvE as an option.
As this thread has shown, online gamer personalities aren't going to change unless they are forced to change.

[Alvin Artichoke]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Originally posted by DanMcSharp:

Well, as a prospect buyer, this thread was interesting. Seems like PvP here stands for Player versus Prey, Nothing to write home about.

It's exactly the type of game where the only people who benefit from open PvP are the no-lifer trolls that get off on griefing other players. I guarantee none of those players ever seek out PvP on equal footing when their opponents can actually fight back.
You can always spot them because they're on the forums insisting that thematically there's nothing wrong with stomping a level 10 in endgame gear. In fact, I see several in here.

This type of game only works in PvP if it's heavily moderated and enforced by the server, to keep it relatively even.

YOU JUST get unlucky if that is ur experience. i have played several servers and i have seen like 3 cases of endgame griefing low levels. other than that there is no benefit to do doing that. but on the other hand a 60+ killing a 40 in the iron mine is gonna happen more often because people want iron. that is not griefing that is just fighting over resources.

[Alvin Artichoke]

Originally posted by Sir Cacetinho:

Lmao people that keep defending the pvp mode are literal basement dweller with no life trying to cope and justify their pathetic and unhealthy lifestyle while playing in solo/duo server with a +6 clan 16 hrs per day.

just play pve if u cant comprehend winning pvp fights at 10+ gear score deficit. and thats fine but dont talk about pvp if ur not even gonna TRY to get good at it. just build ur cool castle or something

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by Sammy Feckles:

YOU JUST get unlucky if that is ur experience. i have played several servers and i have seen like 3 cases of endgame griefing low levels. other than that there is no benefit to do doing that. but on the other hand a 60+ killing a 40 in the iron mine is gonna happen more often because people want iron. that is not griefing that is just fighting over resources.

No, I haven't got unlucky, because I'm not wasting my time playing the odds in the first place.

I don't need to play the PvP in this game to know exactly how it's gonna go in a public setting. I see no issues with the PvP in a private setting where people agree to certain rules to keep it fair. The only people who do see problems with that are the no-lifers I was referring to, because they don't want a fair fight.

[Pinhead Larry]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Originally posted by Sammy Feckles:

YOU JUST get unlucky if that is ur experience. i have played several servers and i have seen like 3 cases of endgame griefing low levels. other than that there is no benefit to do doing that. but on the other hand a 60+ killing a 40 in the iron mine is gonna happen more often because people want iron. that is not griefing that is just fighting over resources.

No, I haven't got unlucky, because I'm not wasting my time playing the odds in the first place.

I don't need to play the PvP in this game to know exactly how it's gonna go in a public setting. I see no issues with the PvP in a private setting where people agree to certain rules to keep it fair. The only people who do see problems with that are the no-lifers I was referring to, because they don't want a fair fight.

The fact that this is allowed to happen AT ALL is a major flaw with the PvP.

[Alvin Artichoke]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Originally posted by Sammy Feckles:

YOU JUST get unlucky if that is ur experience. i have played several servers and i have seen like 3 cases of endgame griefing low levels. other than that there is no benefit to do doing that. but on the other hand a 60+ killing a 40 in the iron mine is gonna happen more often because people want iron. that is not griefing that is just fighting over resources.

No, I haven't got unlucky, because I'm not wasting my time playing the odds in the first place.

I don't need to play the PvP in this game to know exactly how it's gonna go in a public setting. I see no issues with the PvP in a private setting where people agree to certain rules to keep it fair. The only people who do see problems with that are the no-lifers I was referring to, because they don't want a fair fight.

oh u just confirmed u dont even play pvp. then stfu. like that one guy said, literally just making ♥♥♥♥ up for the sake of arguing. nobody fking griefs in farbane woods, u guys make the dumbest ♥♥♥♥ up trying to circle jerk anti pvp ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. go make some friends

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by Sammy Feckles:

Originally posted by Evilsod:

No, I haven't got unlucky, because I'm not wasting my time playing the odds in the first place.

I don't need to play the PvP in this game to know exactly how it's gonna go in a public setting. I see no issues with the PvP in a private setting where people agree to certain rules to keep it fair. The only people who do see problems with that are the no-lifers I was referring to, because they don't want a fair fight.

oh u just confirmed u dont even play pvp. then stfu. like that one guy said, literally just making ♥♥♥♥ up for the sake of arguing. nobody fking griefs in farbane woods, u guys make the dumbest ♥♥♥♥ up trying to circle jerk anti pvp ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. go make some friends

The funny thing is, everything you've said in this thread makes it obvious you're one of the no-lifer griefers.

Since you type like a 12 year old, I'll just assume you are one (it explains your reading comprehension). I have nothing against PvP existing, I just have no interest in it. And even if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't enable trolls like you by playing on a public server.

[Alvin Artichoke]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Originally posted by Sammy Feckles:

oh u just confirmed u dont even play pvp. then stfu. like that one guy said, literally just making ♥♥♥♥ up for the sake of arguing. nobody fking griefs in farbane woods, u guys make the dumbest ♥♥♥♥ up trying to circle jerk anti pvp ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. go make some friends

The funny thing is, everything you've said in this thread makes it obvious you're one of the no-lifer griefers.

Since you type like a 12 year old, I'll just assume you are one (it explains your reading comprehension). I have nothing against PvP existing, I just have no interest in it. And even if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't enable trolls like you by playing on a public server.

well you assumed wrong. I love the pvp and dueling is my favorite part of v rising cuz there is a lot of skill expression and outplay potential. The teamers and griefers are my least favorite part. and i only type like this cuz its fast and u clearly can comprehend what im typing so it doesnt matter. i dont have time to no life and i dont grieef. just dont like peolpe making fake scenarios spread pvp slander

[LittleBlueDuneBuggy]

Originally posted by Kurague:

Edit: Wait, did you just come to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ me with 16 hours on record? Get out of here, you haven't even gotten to experience all the grief you can from PvP and being raided by 10 golems at the same time by 4 people 30+ levels over.

Clearly V Rising is the only game to ever feature PvP or griefing. /eyeroll