Void

[Carnage]

Something really needs to be done about void. It's been a very long time where nearly every player has come to the conclusion that void is required for PvP. It's utility alone without damage would be good enough but even then it's existence removes counterplay and good neutral/positioning. I think it's beyond time this spell has been looked at for a rework if not outright removal.

[Korintheblack]

Originally posted by Carnage:

Something really needs to be done about void. It's been a very long time where nearly every player has come to the conclusion that void is required for PvP. It's utility alone without damage would be good enough but even then it's existence removes counterplay and good neutral/positioning. I think it's beyond time this spell has been looked at for a rework if not outright removal.

How is it super good?

[Storm's End]

Originally posted by Korintheblack:

Originally posted by Carnage:

Something really needs to be done about void. It's been a very long time where nearly every player has come to the conclusion that void is required for PvP. It's utility alone without damage would be good enough but even then it's existence removes counterplay and good neutral/positioning. I think it's beyond time this spell has been looked at for a rework if not outright removal.

How is it super good?

I don't PVP but I'm guessing it's because void can pull enemies to the center of it, so you can use it to get enemies out of position, IE if they hide behind a tree you pull them into the open and unload on them.

[Korintheblack]

Originally posted by Storm's End:

Originally posted by Korintheblack:

How is it super good?

I don't PVP but I'm guessing it's because void can pull enemies to the center of it, so you can use it to get enemies out of position, IE if they hide behind a tree you pull them into the open and unload on them.

Oh that is good.

[Storm's End]

Originally posted by Korintheblack:

Originally posted by Storm's End:

I don't PVP but I'm guessing it's because void can pull enemies to the center of it, so you can use it to get enemies out of position, IE if they hide behind a tree you pull them into the open and unload on them.

Oh that is good.

You also get two casts of it too so I can imagine it's pretty rough. Pulled and then pulled again. I was using it in PVE but now that I think about it, yeah I can see the trouble lol

[Yumeko]

it's a classic noob stomper even when nerfed in 1.0, as it no longer cancels hard defensives.
Its easy to use and spammable. You can easily deal with average players using void via mov speed and good mechanical usage of wep abiltiies like the ones that move your character and iframes (slasher Q and pistol E). So, again, it's a classic noob stomper because noobs typically use 1-3 weapons and therefore lack answers, and then possibly non mov speed blood as well.

Average players can typically only dream of landing a void on a solid player or win trades where the void hit.

[Carnage]

Originally posted by Kebabmix:

it's a classic noob stomper even when nerfed in 1.0, as it no longer cancels hard defensives.
Its easy to use and spammable. You can easily deal with average players using void via mov speed and good mechanical usage of wep abiltiies like the ones that move your character and iframes (slasher Q and pistol E). So, again, it's a classic noob stomper because noobs typically use 1-3 weapons and therefore lack answers, and then possibly non mov speed blood as well.

Average players can typically only dream of landing a void on a solid player or win trades where the void hit.

Such a Gamer™ response.

If a move is good a move is good. Almost every offensive spell requires aim. None of those things prevent void from being the best of the offensive spells.

[Yumeko]

even if you cast void directly on someone they can still just walk out of it. If you sidestep into the direction the enemy threw a fast projectile, youre gonna get hit.

I got some vids containing void usage from gloomrot where void was better. https://youtu.be/P9_lLi85sfY

https://youtu.be/JR7RP1nhxIM?t=1434
And then here on timestamp is a void duel, maybe useful insight. Again 2 duels later from that timestamp.

Arena players typically mix in void into combos which average players basically never do. A simple combo can be cc + void + spear Q.
A more advanced combo can be cc + void + axe E incap + 2nd void + spear Q.