To the Devs: Paper, Schrolls, Schematics

[SCM of 2814]

I'm a solo player and have completed all the research. Ever since them, I've had paper products pilling up in my inventory, mostly because a lot of places I send servants to hunt have them as a loot. I don't want to throw them away, but they're functionally useless now. Can you add some sort of consumable item that has a use for them, or have them be a fuel source for the mist brazier or something?

[Ryvucz]

I'm curious about something.

How many chests do you have?

[SCM of 2814]

Not a lot, but that's because I set item stacking to max (x3). It's less about my inventory space and more like I'm frustrated there's nothing else to use it on, but it keeps showing up? It's not even a component of wallpaper.

[何]

have you used your stygian summoning circle?

[doubledgedboard]

We definitely need a way to salvage or consume paper products. During progression, a large garden produces enough excess to grind into pollen, which makes thread, which then makes scrolls. By end game, there's no need to produce scrolls from pollen anymore, so both flowers and paper products become a nuisance.

It gets to the point where you start micromanaging your inventory during resource runs to drop paper/books, because they are so worthless to even bring back to your castle. It's an annoying change in the game flow.

If we could use paper products in something, then we still have a use for excess flowers into pollen, as well.

[Shift]

You use schematics and scrolls to summon things in the stygian summoning circle, whose drops are used by endgame equipment.

[SCM of 2814]

Originally posted by 何:

have you used your stygian summoning circle?

... all it does is give you MORE paper, scrolls and schematics....

[Tanyon]

Who cares.. there are plenty of resources that become useless.. stone.. wood.. ♥♥♥♥.. I have an entire chest of just blood essence that I don't need.. that's how survival/crafting games work.. you sometimes end up with a lot of stuff you don;t need.. either stop collecting it.. or drop it on the ground and forget about it..

[Jacobin Laden]

Originally posted by SCM of 2814:

Originally posted by 何:

have you used your stygian summoning circle?

... all it does is give you MORE paper, scrolls and schematics....

Yeah idk why people are bringing up the stygian summoning circle. Its just a reverse Devourer - scrolls and schematics gets you study and atheneum books. Clearly OP doesn't need them.

Knowledge based items are the only thing in the game that aren't part of the end-game economy. We should be able to break them down to fiber.

[Shingou]

A recipe where you summon monsters in the stygian cirlce that require scrolls but then give stygian shards, technical scrap, batteries, seeds and seedlings, radium or something else would be nice. I always started research early and basically only did the bosses again when I had researched everything. When I farm gold jewelry, I usually throw several stacks of paper, scrolls, books, etc. just go away. It's a shame actually.

[Jacobin Laden]

A monster that drops shards would be 10/10 perfect. Folds the resource into the gamble economy, closing the loop.

e: recipe ingredients would just be the knowledge paper and gem dust. This would also create a more cyclic relation with the other circle summons since you're generating resources for the tool.

[Darth_Angeal]

Originally posted by Tanyon:

Who cares.. there are plenty of resources that become useless.. stone.. wood.. ♥♥♥♥.. I have an entire chest of just blood essence that I don't need.. that's how survival/crafting games work.. you sometimes end up with a lot of stuff you don;t need.. either stop collecting it.. or drop it on the ground and forget about it..

They could simply add use for everything. The current system isn´t bad, but so much stuff becomes pretty much useless because you jump from V to V, gear to gear.

They could add for example:

- an upgrade-system where you would use old armor to infuse new ones with slightly better stats or special perks

- more housing-stuff

- change repair-costs to either have 1 x item Y OR 100 x item Z as requirement

- let us use scrolls/paper to cover magical inscriptions for a one-time use in a fight. (or with 5min cd)

- more armor-types


Just some brainstorming, but there are ways to make old stuff more useful or still needed even without playing on a PvP server where you´ve to repair stuff more often.

It´s just on the devs to make it happen.

[jordop]

Originally posted by doubledgedboard:

We definitely need a way to salvage or consume paper products. During progression, a large garden produces enough excess to grind into pollen, which makes thread, which then makes scrolls. By end game, there's no need to produce scrolls from pollen anymore, so both flowers and paper products become a nuisance.

It gets to the point where you start micromanaging your inventory during resource runs to drop paper/books, because they are so worthless to even bring back to your castle. It's an annoying change in the game flow.

If we could use paper products in something, then we still have a use for excess flowers into pollen, as well.

The game needs loot filters. AND control over what gets put on my f'in hotbar

[torqueblue]

The ability to make disposable one time use spell scrolls would be awesome. Crafting paper bombs, hell Let me use those papers as material needed for wallpaper, cause for whatever reason wallpapers no longer need mats.....I wonder if I can mod that to make it to where I can make wallpapers cost papers and scrolls. Off to the Modding Discord to ask.

[traviniperv]

Yeah without the ability to sell back or make crafted items into raw materials again, the game gets slightly frustrating. Too much useless junk. I find myself dropping it in the woods and leaving game just to make it disappear. I thought I'd need tons of paper so I set up a massive production factory but turns out I really did not. Wish I could get that wood back.

[何]

Originally posted by Jacobin Laden:

Originally posted by SCM of 2814:

... all it does is give you MORE paper, scrolls and schematics....

Yeah idk why people are bringing up the stygian summoning circle. Its just a reverse Devourer - scrolls and schematics gets you study and atheneum books. Clearly OP doesn't need them.

Knowledge based items are the only thing in the game that aren't part of the end-game economy. We should be able to break them down to fiber.

it's not just more paper and scrolls. I've recieved weapons, and other loot from the summoned mob.