Can we get a definitve answer from the devs/mods if this is the last time we need a new save for new content.

[alden.monzon]

Title. Obviously this matter is a big deal for many players so please give us a definitive answer.

[Monty]

Originally posted by alden.monzon:

Originally posted by TastyMercury:

This happens every time there is a major patch. Not sure why people have an issue with it NOW.

Originally posted by alan0n:

It has literally been this way for every major content update... It will very likely continue on in this fashion for as long as they keep updating the game.

Except you two are missing context that the game is now out of early access. It was acceptable and tolerable before the 1.0 release. But to keep doing this after the game's full release is just unacceptable.

So you don't want new content?

[Juggoire]

This thread feels a little entitled, to be fair. Previous iterations of this game were complete, with a start, middle and end game. If you don't wish to 'break your save', switch off updates for this game? You can do that, if it's what you wish for.

For me, I love this game and really enjoy running through it all again with the additions, tweaks and QoL improvements the developers keep giving us.

I wouldn't dare suggest that I'm definitive here on what you should enjoy, but it seems odd to complain about 'breaking saves' when they were clear that that would be the case on major updates. (ie: you seem to believe yourself to be 'definitive' on what I should find upsetting).

tl:dr - stop whining, the game's fun to play through again. If not, play something else.

[Juggoire]

Originally posted by average:

I thought a friend was joking when he told me not to buy the game because saves get erased on updates. Doesn't matter how they've decided and/or managed to code their engine, this is not an excuse in 2025 to use this type of unreliable saving system.

If someone can confirm for me that there is no way for me to somehow keep my progress locally (i.e. make a backup of my save), then I'd request a refund immediately, even though I did 4 hours into the game. This is NOT OK.

I don't play often and I don't want to come back after a week or a month to unwind, only to find that all my time into the game went to waste.

Defend the game as much as you want, but I value my time for certain things and this is just wasteful.

And the level of 'Karen' here warrants no more than simply quoting it. Get over yourself, you entitled twonk.

(Sorry - dammit - I have to address the obvious here: turn off the updates for the game. Save not broken. Progress not lost. Happy chappy is you. Bleating about it because you want the new, shiny patch but don't want to lose progress, even in 2025, is beyond entitled.)

[Monty]

Originally posted by Juggoire:

This thread feels a little entitled, to be fair. Previous iterations of this game were complete, with a start, middle and end game. If you don't wish to 'break your save', switch off updates for this game? You can do that, if it's what you wish for.

For me, I love this game and really enjoy running through it all again with the additions, tweaks and QoL improvements the developers keep giving us.

I wouldn't dare suggest that I'm definitive here on what you should enjoy, but it seems odd to complain about 'breaking saves' when they were clear that that would be the case on major updates. (ie: you seem to believe yourself to be 'definitive' on what I should find upsetting).

tl:dr - stop whining, the game's fun to play through again. If not, play something else.

Agreed, nobody seems to understand that V Rising is more of a seasonal game. You play the season, it lasts a year, then you come back for the next patch and start a fresh run, that's kind of the gameplay loop at this point.

[Thwartgorgon75]

Originally posted by alden.monzon:

Title. Obviously this matter is a big deal for many players so please give us a definitive answer.

It is cheaper to deal with people complaining for 1 month than do this, especially as this was the last planned update.

[Juggoire]

For those unsure how to stop it updating:

Right click - 'updates' - 'wait til I launch the game'

Just remember to go in to offline mode before launching.

Voila - play old version to your heart's content.

[alden.monzon]

Originally posted by Monty:

Originally posted by alden.monzon:

Except you two are missing context that the game is now out of early access. It was acceptable and tolerable before the 1.0 release. But to keep doing this after the game's full release is just unacceptable.

So you don't want new content?

Did I say that I didn't want new content? Upon backreading that, all I can read is me saying that that this practice of requiring players to startover when they release updates is not acceptable anymore.

Originally posted by Juggoire:

This thread feels a little entitled, to be fair. Previous iterations of this game were complete, with a start, middle and end game. If you don't wish to 'break your save', switch off updates for this game? You can do that, if it's what you wish for.

For me, I love this game and really enjoy running through it all again with the additions, tweaks and QoL improvements the developers keep giving us.

I wouldn't dare suggest that I'm definitive here on what you should enjoy, but it seems odd to complain about 'breaking saves' when they were clear that that would be the case on major updates. (ie: you seem to believe yourself to be 'definitive' on what I should find upsetting).

tl:dr - stop whining, the game's fun to play through again. If not, play something else.

It's entitled to ask for answers from the devs mods about what their future plans are in an open platform meant to discuss their games? I remember a time when the devs answer players in this platform. Also, they are not clear if this will keep happening in the future, hence the public callout.

[Glyph]

It's really on you if you think it's ambiguous whether or not they require new saves for new content, when they are 3 for 3 in the affirmative in every update so far.

[alden.monzon]

Originally posted by Glyph:

It's really on you if you think it's ambiguous whether or not they require new saves for new content, when they are 3 for 3 in the affirmative in every update so far.

But it is ambiguous in the sense that in the three or so major updates, all except one were made during early access. It is just this latest major update when the game is already officially launched when they still required new save that they received as much backlash as this. I don't even know why apologists like you keep answering for them.

A single post or reply from one of the devs or mods here saying a "yes, we will continue to do this practice" or a "no, we will find a way not to break saves anymore" will lay this one issue at rest and will give us players a reasonable expectation moving forward.

[Glyph]

Give it up. You are not owed anything. Live in the looming shadow that a possible future update will require a new save to experience, huddled pitifully around the empty argument of 'but it's not EA anymore!!!!!'.

[AbraCadaver]

at this point I would just assume yes. it is definitely frustrating though

[alden.monzon]

Originally posted by Glyph:

Give it up. You are not owed anything. Live in the looming shadow that a possible future update will require a new save to experience, huddled pitifully around the empty argument of 'but it's not EA anymore!!!!!'.

You give it up. It's consumers like you that give game companies the encouragement to slip in quality standards. I hope Steam and Sony clamps down on what games can be tagged as fully released in the name of consumer protection.

[Monty]

Originally posted by alden.monzon:

Originally posted by Monty:

So you don't want new content?

Did I say that I didn't want new content? Upon backreading that, all I can read is me saying that that this practice of requiring players to startover when they release updates is not acceptable anymore.

Originally posted by Juggoire:

This thread feels a little entitled, to be fair. Previous iterations of this game were complete, with a start, middle and end game. If you don't wish to 'break your save', switch off updates for this game? You can do that, if it's what you wish for.

For me, I love this game and really enjoy running through it all again with the additions, tweaks and QoL improvements the developers keep giving us.

I wouldn't dare suggest that I'm definitive here on what you should enjoy, but it seems odd to complain about 'breaking saves' when they were clear that that would be the case on major updates. (ie: you seem to believe yourself to be 'definitive' on what I should find upsetting).

tl:dr - stop whining, the game's fun to play through again. If not, play something else.

It's entitled to ask for answers from the devs mods about what their future plans are in an open platform meant to discuss their games? I remember a time when the devs answer players in this platform. Also, they are not clear if this will keep happening in the future, hence the public callout.

Who decided it was unacceptable? I accept it.

[Glyph]

Come back when your argument graduates beyond No You and perhaps we can discuss your baseless assertions about what constitutes game completeness. Something tells me you won't, because that argument holds no water at all.

[Monty]

Originally posted by alden.monzon:

Originally posted by Glyph:

It's really on you if you think it's ambiguous whether or not they require new saves for new content, when they are 3 for 3 in the affirmative in every update so far.

But it is ambiguous in the sense that in the three or so major updates, all except one were made during early access. It is just this latest major update when the game is already officially launched when they still required new save that they received as much backlash as this. I don't even know why apologists like you keep answering for them.

A single post or reply from one of the devs or mods here saying a "yes, we will continue to do this practice" or a "no, we will find a way not to break saves anymore" will lay this one issue at rest and will give us players a reasonable expectation moving forward.

The proof is in the pudding, you shouldn't need further clarification for what is self evident.