PVPers are the reason PVP is dead in this game

[Just a Gamer]

Ok, full disclaimer, I suck at pvp but I only play on pvp servers, even when I just want to pve. I hate PVE servers because you have no option to get rid of a problem if you have one.


But PVP servers, players take PVP as a licence to grief everybody.


I understand if I am in an end game zone, I am going to get kos, but when players are level 87 to 91 and camping the forgotten cemetery just to slow your progression as a new player, then repeat kill you just to cause your gear to break, from level 27 back to 13, is pretty toxic.

But hey, that is pvp. So they say.


When you raid bases, anything you cant carry, you dump on the ground, just to cause the person extra grief and longer to recover.

But hey, that is pvp. So they say.


Those same people, are posting on steam crying about how PVP is dead, when they are the actual reason PVP is dead.


Stop heckling and repeat killing players 40 levels lower and maybe help them level up, then get a nice fight going.


Take what you can carry when you loot a base, dont be a mega douche bag and despawn everything, just because you raided the base and are pissed that you cant carry that extra stack of ore or hide.

If I cant have it, nobody can.


These are the reasons why people leave the servers. I enjoy the game. I play on official duo as a solo and I keep a low profile.

The very few times I have raided, and even fewer successful raids, I took only what I could carry. But I guess not everybody was raised with gamer etiquette.


So the next time you see people leaving a pvp server, ask yourself, did you really have to despawn all their loot or kill spawn them 5x over to break there gear?


I am addressing the toxic side of V Rising, if you never did this, then this rant isnt for you.

And no, I dont leave my server, I dont rage in chat, I never actually used chat, I just am posting as a person who has experienced this in nearly every raid loss offline or online.

I wont even touch the teaming thing, since that is a different topic and is not the main focus of this rant.


So when 1.1 comes out, please, dont be toxic asshats when your raid and pvp, and the servers might stay populated longer than a week.


Ill be there either way.

[Kurumachine]

while i agree,that also why i Never play any offi public server on all game with any base-raid/Pvp..

but private server with good community and staff who will hammerban griefer,are really cool

[Just a Gamer]

Originally posted by Kurumachine:

while i agree,that also why i Never play any offi public server on all game with any base-raid/Pvp..

but private server with good community and staff who will hammerban griefer,are really cool

Sadly I dont do the community servers, those 2 week wipe cycles are too fast for me. I am old, and I like my 3 month long servers-plus many community servers make those bosses so strong that I cant do them, And they show what boss you killed, making you a target for attackers.


But yeah, if a server is policed, I guess you could avoid much of the issues I outlined.


I would have 2 suggestions to fix both issues.


Inventory can not be dumped while a base is on raid timer. From storage or a player. It can only transfer, so if a person wants to drop loot you, they would have to leave the base, drop it, come back in, which would take a ton of time.


And if a player kills a player that is say 25 levels lower, they get a debuff, though I could see skilled players dropping gear score to troll. So the PVP part I dont have a fix for,


But drop loot raiding is 110% easy to fix. Loot can only go inventory to inventory while a base in breach timer. Just sold a massive grief issue. But Stunlock Studio doesnt seem to care to address that issue at all. So if they are not addressing it, it means it is not a problem to them.

[Muu]

Getting nuked back to the stone age is sadly part of just about every PVP survival game out there at the moment. It sucks developers aren't giving a more appropriate reward and punishment to the involved parties, but that's just how it is. Half the survival games out there currently don't even have copy/paste, the ability to move your base, or using your base's storage in crafting.

In V Rising's case, there's two very specific reasons it's PVP is dead: A failure to roll out content and balance changes for PVPers at release and designing the game around gear level.

There's nothing stopping the first players to join a server from blocking the rest of the server from leveling up. Sure, this is somewhat true of other games: Rust, DayZ, Conan Exiles, Minecraft, etc. but in their cases progression resources are plentiful and enough skill/finesse or a large enough alliance can throw the alpha clan off balance. Thats not a possibility in V Rising.

[Demox]

This is purely an official server problem as private servers and communities nearly wipe out all the problems you seem to have with the game. The people who are doing these things don't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ what you say here or in-game, only that your words and possible departure from the server is precisely what they want. You need to understand there is something psychologically wrong with these people and you -cannot- reason with them or sometimes even understand their actions. Nothing you say here will make sense to these people and for some it might even give them great pleasure. That is the risk you take when playing official servers, sorry but unless the either the devs or the hosting company doles out real moderators, you have no choice but to fight fire with fire on these servers.

Your claim with 2 week resets is only half right, not every server does that, I usually play on ones with 4-8 week cycles, probably closer to 8 now with the new patch. With 1.1 coming out soon, private and -moderated- servers will be exploding with activity. They will literally solve every single problem you have with official servers and then some. This is the last big patch afaik, so this is your last chance to enjoy the game in a way you like, don't waste it getting mad about socially inept people doing psychopathic things.

I suggest anyone to reconsider playing on an official server but it's your choice to make, good luck.

[123]

No.

[Just a Gamer]

Originally posted by Demox:

This is purely an official server problem as private servers and communities nearly wipe out all the problems you seem to have with the game. The people who are doing these things don't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ what you say here or in-game, only that your words and possible departure from the server is precisely what they want. You need to understand there is something psychologically wrong with these people and you -cannot- reason with them or sometimes even understand their actions. Nothing you say here will make sense to these people and for some it might even give them great pleasure. That is the risk you take when playing official servers, sorry but unless the either the devs or the hosting company doles out real moderators, you have no choice but to fight fire with fire on these servers.

Your claim with 2 week resets is only half right, not every server does that, I usually play on ones with 4-8 week cycles, probably closer to 8 now with the new patch. With 1.1 coming out soon, private and -moderated- servers will be exploding with activity. They will literally solve every single problem you have with official servers and then some. This is the last big patch afaik, so this is your last chance to enjoy the game in a way you like, don't waste it getting mad about socially inept people doing psychopathic things.

I suggest anyone to reconsider playing on an official server but it's your choice to make, good luck.

I have been practicing on 4/142025 Quick Start PVP(powered by QUESO to get back into the game(only because its wiping for 1.1 soon)

Server is a duo server, 2x rates, bosses harder. Been there for 3 days, never once seen a mod, seen racism in chat, seen the kill feed show level 91s farming lower levels and them leaving.


This is NOT just an official server issue, but a PVP issue itself. I get it it, the game is PVP, and there are only so many targets. But not everybody is as old and stubborn(and maybe a bit of a sadist? lol) to play through the hell that is involved.

I dont expect anything to change, I just figured I would give my 2 cents, since I play alot see alot but rarely say anything.

[Just a Gamer]

Originally posted by 123:

No.

Go back to Ark

[Tyo_ma]

Originally posted by Just a Gamer:

Ok, full disclaimer, I suck at pvp

So your point is completely irrelevant, got it. The end.

[x-siffror - Tsume - Shadow]

Originally posted by Just a Gamer:

Stop heckling and repeat killing players 40 levels lower and maybe help them level up, then get a nice fight going.

They are too WEAK to have a nice fair leveled fight going.
These types are the COWARDS that only can harass those underleveled otherwise they dont stand a chance.

[Brother Nagoor Babu]

Its damn easy to fix your mentioned problems and the first thing I did when trying pvp: Look up the rules. Can they overlevel me? Okay I dont pvp. Since when you can overlevel in pvp encounters and theres no way of evening the odds during fights - theres no point for me to play pvp since you get stomped regularly and thats not fun. Never was. Never will be.

[Tychus]

In most servers your gear is bloodbound, and your gear is the real progression in the game. You can't be put in a state where you have to completely restart. unless your gear gets so badly damaged that its unusable.

[Yumeko]

hehe. Incredibly irrelevant post for the low population. And dont play on officials if you need admins to enforce rules.

[Tychus]

Originally posted by Tychus:

In most servers your gear is bloodbound, and your gear is the real progression in the game. You can't be put in a state where you have to completely restart. unless your gear gets so badly damaged that its unusable.

Also you have the Lockbox.

[Thwartgorgon75]

Originally posted by Just a Gamer:

Ok, full disclaimer, I suck at pvp but I only play on pvp servers, even when I just want to pve. I hate PVE servers because you have no option to get rid of a problem if you have one.


But PVP servers, players take PVP as a licence to grief everybody.


I understand if I am in an end game zone, I am going to get kos, but when players are level 87 to 91 and camping the forgotten cemetery just to slow your progression as a new player, then repeat kill you just to cause your gear to break, from level 27 back to 13, is pretty toxic.

But hey, that is pvp. So they say.


When you raid bases, anything you cant carry, you dump on the ground, just to cause the person extra grief and longer to recover.

But hey, that is pvp. So they say.


Those same people, are posting on steam crying about how PVP is dead, when they are the actual reason PVP is dead.


Stop heckling and repeat killing players 40 levels lower and maybe help them level up, then get a nice fight going.


Take what you can carry when you loot a base, dont be a mega douche bag and despawn everything, just because you raided the base and are pissed that you cant carry that extra stack of ore or hide.

If I cant have it, nobody can.


These are the reasons why people leave the servers. I enjoy the game. I play on official duo as a solo and I keep a low profile.

The very few times I have raided, and even fewer successful raids, I took only what I could carry. But I guess not everybody was raised with gamer etiquette.


So the next time you see people leaving a pvp server, ask yourself, did you really have to despawn all their loot or kill spawn them 5x over to break there gear?


I am addressing the toxic side of V Rising, if you never did this, then this rant isnt for you.

And no, I dont leave my server, I dont rage in chat, I never actually used chat, I just am posting as a person who has experienced this in nearly every raid loss offline or online.

I wont even touch the teaming thing, since that is a different topic and is not the main focus of this rant.


So when 1.1 comes out, please, dont be toxic asshats when your raid and pvp, and the servers might stay populated longer than a week.


Ill be there either way.

There are certain things you will want despawned rather than taken. I found an entire vault of castle keys when I infiltrated this one groups massive castle. I definitely think castle keys are fair game since they are used for the worst of war crimes in this game.

If you getting hit constantly by the same individuals rather than many different people... I gotta ask how many opps you have irl.

[w̲ppr̲r̲z̲]

Guy complains he hates PVP, but only plays PVP servers. OP's opinion is dented.