Please remove the overpowerered spearman summon from quincy the bandit king

[Klarka]

Im not joking. that fcking mob is so powerfull it should be separate bossfight. no joke. i mean if it returns 2 more times after you killed it...

it has at least a third of quincy's total health, deals the exact same damage (not counting burn from chaos) and has way more dangerous mechanics.

quincy alone is easy once you get the hang of it. he does not hit me once because i got it down i know everything about him. i know what to do, what to not do, i make no mistakes.

but that fcking spearman...it's so overpowered. its broken in the wild already but puttin him up with quincy is just bad design.

it has too much health, too fast attack to counter or dodge, too much damage for a summon, and the skill to pull the player is just an overkill.

dont tell me im wrong.. that spearman is fcking insane.

[burner19]

Did it on brutal and ignored the summon. Take 1 shield spell and 1 for seleton summon and just trow skeleton time to time and she will focus on skeleton. also a tip shield from undead spells tree summons skeleton beside person that hit the shield so use shield to block her shot and skeleton will apear beside her and she will focus it. I kinda just ignored add because its not that hard to dodge. Killed him on brutal. I think that the biggest difficulty this game has is its realy badly designed controlls.

[Pay Child Suport]

if you're playing brutal then sure I'll agree. that spearman is hard to dodge when there's fire on the ground. and god that fire DoT damage is ridiculous.

[Klarka]

Oh and btw. i wrote this AFTER i beat him. i wasnt just upset :D

[burner19]

Klarka a écrit :

Oh and btw. i wrote this AFTER i beat him. i wasnt just upset :D

The problem with this game is that every boss fight is a bullet hell and cam controlls suck ass its even worse on controller where you either turn cam or attack because they put attack and camera turning with the same buttons without rebinding settings. In my opinion with bullet hell pve game design you need responsive and fluid controlls and this game has none. You cant have cam controll and weapon skills with same buttons because it makes game unnecessarily harder. Dont know how m+k is but propably better thou i saw people also writing that its bad. And if bandit king is bad wait till you fight a guy that summons 3 demons on you and shot lasers and other homing projectiles while teleporting on you. The bandit king will be a joke in comparison.

[jordop]

burner19 a écrit :

Klarka a écrit :

Oh and btw. i wrote this AFTER i beat him. i wasnt just upset :D

The problem with this game is that every boss fight is a bullet hell and cam controlls suck ass its even worse on controller where you either turn cam or attack because they put attack and camera turning with the same buttons without rebinding settings. In my opinion with bullet hell pve game design you need responsive and fluid controlls and this game has none. You cant have cam controll and weapon skills with same buttons because it makes game unnecessarily harder. Dont know how m+k is but propably better thou i saw people also writing that its bad. And if bandit king is bad wait till you fight a guy that summons 3 demons on you and shot lasers and other homing projectiles while teleporting on you. The bandit king will be a joke in comparison.

The camera, the UI, and lack of settings is pretty disappointing. Why is crap automatically added to my hotbar? Such basic features missing.

[Klarka]

I don't understand why discusions on steam about a specific idea or complaint turn into a general conversation about anything and everything in the games :D

[burner19]

Klarka a écrit :

I don't understand why discusions on steam about a specific idea or complaint turn into a general conversation about anything and everything in the games :D

Because that little thing as add summon isnt a problem in this boss fight. If you had problem with this boss it will get much worse later on, much, much worse and you would had to nerf every boss later on because the boss mechanics later are crazier and harder to deal with. In comparison i realy think bandit king is one of the easier bosses in this game. Later you will for example have boss that can spawn multiple adds that you need to kill or run away from while boss is attacking you with multiple projectiles and healing itself while you need to deal with all of that at once and dont let boss heal forcing you to rush and play recklesly and it is not even dificult one. Thats why i wrote that in bullet hell boss designs it isnt important if he summons or not but to have realy precise controlls to deal with that.

[theworld]

Klarka a écrit :

dont tell me im wrong..

Okay, I'll tell you you're bad.

[Klarka]

theworld a écrit :

Klarka a écrit :

dont tell me im wrong..

Okay, I'll tell you you're bad.

go to bed

[theworld]

I'm not the one creating threads complaining about Act 1 bosses, bro.

[Klarka]

burner19 a écrit :

Klarka a écrit :

I don't understand why discusions on steam about a specific idea or complaint turn into a general conversation about anything and everything in the games :D

Because that little thing as add summon isnt a problem in this boss fight. If you had problem with this boss it will get much worse later on, much, much worse and you would had to nerf every boss later on because the boss mechanics later are crazier and harder to deal with. In comparison i realy think bandit king is one of the easier bosses in this game. Later you will for example have boss that can spawn multiple adds that you need to kill or run away from while boss is attacking you with multiple projectiles and healing itself while you need to deal with all of that at once and dont let boss heal forcing you to rush and play recklesly and it is not even dificult one. Thats why i wrote that in bullet hell boss designs it isnt important if he summons or not but to have realy precise controlls to deal with that.

but this isnt about the boss or summons. its about this specific spearman being fcking insane.

It's brutal in the forest already. putting him into a boss fight is stupid.

This spearman needs a nerf.

[theworld]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6lyPaQyxLw

Nah, the OP spearman didn't stop this guy, dude.

[burner19]

Klarka a écrit :

burner19 a écrit :

Because that little thing as add summon isnt a problem in this boss fight. If you had problem with this boss it will get much worse later on, much, much worse and you would had to nerf every boss later on because the boss mechanics later are crazier and harder to deal with. In comparison i realy think bandit king is one of the easier bosses in this game. Later you will for example have boss that can spawn multiple adds that you need to kill or run away from while boss is attacking you with multiple projectiles and healing itself while you need to deal with all of that at once and dont let boss heal forcing you to rush and play recklesly and it is not even dificult one. Thats why i wrote that in bullet hell boss designs it isnt important if he summons or not but to have realy precise controlls to deal with that.

but this isnt about the boss or summons. its about this specific spearman being fcking insane.

It's brutal in the forest already. putting him into a boss fight is stupid.

This spearman needs a nerf.

Than i will tell you that act 2 boss is the same. He summons spearman and when spearman will no hit you with fire bos will shot projectiles that throw you in to air and in the middle of that fire that spearman leaves. So you need to dodge them both and 1 mistake and you are in the fire while being slowed. If you wasted dodge than gg you will fry. Also later on boss summons adds that deal 2x damaga that spearman does. Thats why i said if you need to nerf spearman than you need to nerf all the other bosses monster spawns.

[Akulvo]

theworld a écrit :

I'm not the one creating threads complaining about Act 1 bosses, bro.

act 1 generic mobs*

[Akulvo]

If strafing the spearmen is too hard for you, I think you'll find a lot of the later game bosses to be a nightmare.

You can avoid ALL of the spear girl's attacks just by circle strafing them to the side. I highly recommend using a counter / shield ability to also help out since a lot of attacks later on will be unavoidable with just WASD movement later on. Hell, double counter / shield will help you out a lot since it sounds like you're missing defensive abilities.