A.I Vampires for Solo Play

[PsycoShogun]

Hi,

Firstly i really love this game, i feel like its something we vampire fans have been waiting for since Nosferatu :D.

However, when playing solo, it would be cool if there was A.I controlled Vampires that you could choose to fight against (PVP) or could team with (PVE) communication would be pre determined options like "Help me" or "Build near me" and even an ability to organise raids.

I know we could just opt to play online in a server, but i feel having the option to have a similar experience with A.I controlled Vampires would be an awesome feature for those who arn't really keen to play with real players, but want the ability to have a PVE experience with raids, command lists and seeing other vampires building their own castles.

Understandably this would be a huge challenge for the devs especially in regards to pathing and a.i task management, however RTS games have had this kind of system since at least 1997 or sooner.

Anyway what do we all think?

Please keep the discussion constructive, creative criticism is welcome but please be civil and respect other peoples ideas, there is no such thing as a bad idea, if it creates ideas for a positive change.

[Mango]

i second this

[Bomoo]

Yeah this'd be good.

[Gilmore]

I don’t think you know what PVP means… It’s not PVP if they are AI.

[Many-Named]

Originally posted by Gilmore:

I don’t think you know what PVP means… It’s not PVP if they are AI.

OP suggestion is great but like Gilmore said, pvp is player vs player, whenever ai is involved vs the player it is called PVE. Just a detail but may be important.

EDIT: I too am not too keen to play with players, but this game is really great with other people, and lessens greatly the ressource grind.

[Strongeststraw]

Originally posted by PsycoShogun:

Hi,
Understandably this would be a huge challenge for the devs especially in regards to pathing and a.i task management, however RTS games have had this kind of system since at least 1997 or sooner.

Ya, those AIs were more build order and time-scheduled attack algorithms. They weren't that sophisticated. Well, the AI in V Rising is also pretty basic, even for bosses. AI has a really really hard time trying to take in information and plan ahead.

However, if you just want a servant to follow you and use their normal mob AI when aggro'ed, that might not be that hard. They would be worthless against bosses though. Like I said before, AI is really bad a looking ahead. They wouldn't know to save rolls or blocks for specific bosses like Behemoth.

[Myrkana]

AI is much harder to make than you think. The AI in RTS is much simpler than the AI in this type of game. You're not going to see a sophisticated AI in a game like this, its much too hard to do.

Also as others have said, pvp is Player versus Player. you cant have pvp with computer played units.

[Sundance]

Originally posted by Myrkana:

AI is much harder to make than you think. The AI in RTS is much simpler than the AI in this type of game. You're not going to see a sophisticated AI in a game like this, its much too hard to do.

Also as others have said, pvp is Player versus Player. you cant have pvp with computer played units.

I am little confused cuz in the settings it says there AI players

https://hostari.com/blog/v-rising-server-settings

GameModeType - PvP or PvE depending on whether you want to fight other players or AI

but you can have PVP and AI all tossed to gather,


I think what game could use is Vampire Vpower Lords bosses in game and a castle built for them placed in each zone kind of like how there two necromancers in game why not a low see Vampire faction with vampire running around we see werewolfs i mean. why not vampire faction.

[TheS1X]

Ai vampires and them building castles, raiding and gathering resources would be sooo dope but I imagine how difficult it would be to program.

[Carnwulf]

Considering they are a small team. Maybe in V Rising 2?

[Mockingcrow]

Originally posted by Carnwulf:

Considering they are a small team. Maybe in V Rising 2?

Don't think its in the realm of impossibility to give us a vampire "beloVed" though for at least solo play.

[FateWeaver]

I would very much like to see this feature implemented, if time and resources permit it.
Thumbs up from me.

[Steven]

Originally posted by Mockingcrow:

Originally posted by Carnwulf:

Considering they are a small team. Maybe in V Rising 2?

Don't think its in the realm of impossibility to give us a vampire "beloVed" though for at least solo play.

I dont know if they could build castles and stuff but in each area they could put a vampire lord that you have to over throw and that vampire could also send out patrols, I wish they allow us to send out patrols also not just hunting party from the throne.

we got bone yards so forth be kinda of cool if we could have our own clan AI partys wandering around like pc factions do. be them skeleton zombies and other minion servants we convert so forth.

right now I wish the slaves we take that we transform into mindless vampires that just follow you as servents I wish we could could dress them up like our own chars and that that clothes we put on them would appear on them just like it does for our main char.

all the things that are need to do these three ideas are already present in this game because they are already implemented there just need to be expanded on to allow above things to happen in this manner.


for example all every single idea here is full implemented by the AI and even by the player all features are there just like i said need to be expanded on.

example

we already customize and able to dress our own vampires just need to allow this to happen on the servants

there already party combat and path finding and factions built in to the game just need add some vampire factions into areas on map

there already patrols that happen and we have ability to build skeletons and ghoul so forth and even vampires that serve us no reason we send out hunting party to collect resources just make it so the party move across map to the location killing stuff along the way and then attack camp gather stuff and bring it back.

unit behavior is in game already and the path finding and combat it all is happening in real time as it is if you see it or not happening so I am not sure why that couldn't be extended on also.

these system would work great in both PVP and PVE

sense game is coming out in may they could do it as a DLC expansion

[Dim]

Dark Souls style Dark Spirits (Phantoms), both Hostile/Friendly, would be awesome addition. Plus Factions maybe. But dev team should focus on end game content 1st i think, and in general, some kind of randomized encounters, like Dungeons, mini bosses, elite mods and such.

[Sparow]

They had a post some time back about factions such as undead/hunters etc traveling around the map. I always like the though of them raiding you and others making the world feel more alive. This would help PVE and make PVP more interesting as you could take advantage of someone getting raided by one of these faction or have it happen to you.

If they have the above option it wouldn't be to hard to add some PVE vampires running around the map and maybe have them build so pre designed castles every now & then. Then give you the option to automate the golem and you get some good PVE & PVP benefits.

[Aetemes]

It's an interesting concept for sure, but honestly it sounds daunting contemplating how much effort would it need to be fun/practical/balanced, and I dunno if the effort should go into that concept before getting the game super super fleshed out in other more attainable ways first?