Using server settings for solo play

[Thwartgorgon75]

A lot of people have said that a reason to not use server settings is because its like cheating, so therefore the game should have already been balanced to their own requirements. The devs gave you the option to lessen the grind or difficulty, if need be. This is just user error. V rising was built for squad play, not solo, in its grind.

Combat is fine and even scales on player numbers, so anyone altering that is actually just a hack, but if you feel grind is too much solo. It is. No shame in dialling it down to a more respectable level. Even with loot drops set to maximum, it still takes a while to accumulate resources solo.

If anybody sees that as an issue, then they probably just salty that someone actually wanted to have fun, instead of playing like its a second job.

[Xero]

No one is saying it's cheating. The more options in games, the better. Especially for server options. Some players like myself like to go into games and play them the way it was meant to be played - with default settings. The developers choose these variables and attributes as what they find standard should be.

Not every game is meant to be fun at all times. Which is why players increase difficulty after completing the lower difficulties. The goal is to master the game mechanics and use everything in the arsenal to be the best you can be.

And this can also be the same for grinding. You grind to achieve a goal, which makes it that much more rewarding once you achieve the goal. You may even find ways to grind faster by discovering game mechanics like using 100% worker blood.

Finding the best locations to gather resources, increasing the number of servants you have, maxing out their gear levels, sending them out at all times, storage management, having large field plots of material plants, queuing your crafting stations while your away from the castle, how to be efficient in a small amount of time, etc. When lowering these settings, no one considers any of these things because it's easily gathered and crafted.

If anyone wants to edit the settings or difficulty for whatever reason, by all means, it's your game and you should enjoy it the way you want to. No one is telling anyone how to play. Some may edit the settings because they're short on time. Some may just want to enjoy an adventurous experience without the grind or challenge. You play the way you want to play.

[Thwartgorgon75]

Originally posted by Xero:

No one is saying it's cheating.

You are one of them who said that to some it felt like cheating. You said it in a response to a question as why don't players change the settings.

Originally posted by Xero:

Not every game is meant to be fun at all times.

wat? This game is fun at all times for me. Any game (or even part of a game) that is made so that it is "not meant to be fun" defeats the purpose of being a product of entertainment. Most games are unable to be fun all the time, but they should try to.

Originally posted by Xero:

Some players like myself like to go into games and play them the way it was meant to be played - with default settings. The developers choose these variables and attributes as what they find standard should be.

Originally posted by Xero:

If anyone wants to edit the settings or difficulty for whatever reason, by all means, it's your game and you should enjoy it the way you want to. No one is telling anyone how to play.

I'm seeing a conflict of interest here.


Aside from these few quotes, I am mostly in agreement.

[Xero]

Originally posted by Thwartgorgon75:

Originally posted by Xero:

No one is saying it's cheating.

You are one of them who said that to some it felt like cheating. You said it in a response to a question as why don't players change the settings.

"Not everyone touches these settings. To those who don't, it would give you a guilty feeling as if you were cheating."

I said this in reply to someone telling me after the fact I have to start over and that I can always edit the settings to put me at the same gear level as I was before, because I'm the type of player who always plays default settings. For me and others who don't touch these settings, after starting a new game and immediately having max gear level would make me and others like me, feel like it's cheating.

We just want the developers to respect the time and effort we put into the game. We shouldn't have to start over or edit the server settings. The game is no longer in early access.

Originally posted by Thwartgorgon75:

Originally posted by Xero:

Some players like myself like to go into games and play them the way it was meant to be played - with default settings. The developers choose these variables and attributes as what they find standard should be.

Originally posted by Xero:

If anyone wants to edit the settings or difficulty for whatever reason, by all means, it's your game and you should enjoy it the way you want to. No one is telling anyone how to play.

I'm seeing a conflict of interest here.

There's no conflict of interest. It's how you decide to play the game. Some play with default settings like myself, while others may choose to edit the settings.

[Xero]

Happy Thanks Giving by the way. And to all that read this. Be safe everyone.

[Thwartgorgon75]

Originally posted by Xero:

Originally posted by Thwartgorgon75:

You are one of them who said that to some it felt like cheating. You said it in a response to a question as why don't players change the settings.

"Not everyone touches these settings. To those who don't, it would give you a guilty feeling as if you were cheating."

I said this in reply to someone telling me after the fact I have to start over and that I can always edit the settings to put me at the same gear level as I was before, because I'm the type of player who always plays default settings. For me and others who don't touch these settings, after starting a new game and immediately having max gear level would make me and others like me, feel like I'm cheating.

We just want the developers to respect the time and effort we put into the game. We shouldn't have to start over or edit the server settings. The game is no longer in early access.

Ultimately all substantial updates would include world changes which change how the world is generated. Most of the space in the game is already taken so the only additions that can be made is dlc cosmetics that are not attached to V bloods.
Similar to minecraft, you need a new world to experience the new features (example for minecraft being that you are playing a decade old save that already has a generated world that did not already generate ancient cities or trial chambers). Imagine the world being changed on your old save and it caused some issues like spawning inside a rock or having your castle location get turned into a road. That is why the old worlds are not updated for these new content patches.
There are multiple games where enjoy some of it's content requires a new character: Nomansky (for expeditions) and minecraft (new world generation required for new areas to spawn) are a few examples. This is not V rising specific.

Originally posted by Xero:

Originally posted by Thwartgorgon75:

I'm seeing a conflict of interest here.

There's no conflict of interest. It's how you decide to play the game. Some play with standard settings like myself, while others may choose to lower the settings.

I'd look at the language used. "Some players like myself like to go into games and play them the way it was meant to be played - with default settings." This is a bit of a conflict with the whole play as you want attitude because you are also saying that default settings are the way the game is meant to be played. Better phrasing would be that you like playing how devs originally intended, not that it is the way it was meant to be played.

[Xero]

Yes, I understand this and know this. I've been around since the game was first introduced during early access. When incompatible saves are to be expected and I played during this time knowing I was going to have to start over.

The game is no longer in early access and those who bought the game during the full release and even during early access are going to be upset. The developers haven't officially announced to everyone outside of discord chat. Only a small percentage knows.

I'm sorry you're taking it the wrong way or taking offense to it, but that's just how it is. Players who edit the settings aren't playing the default settings the way the developers decided the game should be played as default settings. Instead, the settings are being altered to accommodate those for their own reasons.

[Thwartgorgon75]

Originally posted by Xero:

I'm sorry you're taking it the wrong way or taking offense to it, but that's just how it is.

I was not offended. Now I am. You just assumed intent that did not exist. In the most disgusting way possible.

Originally posted by Xero:

Players who edit the settings aren't playing the default settings the way the developers decided the game should be played as default settings. Instead, the settings are being altered to accommodate those for their own reasons.

The default settings are the way that the devs have balanced the game based on what they think will work for most. It is not the way it "should" be played because if that was the case the devs would not have server settings in the first place. The devs made it quite clear with the presence of server settings, that the way you play should be what is right for you, even if it requires changing the setting away from default.

[Xero]

The server settings are there for options to modify how the game is being played. Not everyone modifies the way the game is played. It would be no different from playing doom and modifying how much ammo and health you get from the pickups or damage the enemies can deal or take.

As I stated in my first post : The developers choose these variables and attributes as what they find standard should be. As you said, balanced for most.

The more options in games, the better. Especially for server options. It can even make some servers have unique experiences than the default settings. Some may even try to make the game more difficult than brutal by modifying the settings. Or less of a grind or easier.

[Thwartgorgon75]

Originally posted by Xero:

The server settings are there for options to modify how the game is being played. Not everyone modifies the way the game is played. It would be no different from playing doom and modifying how much ammo and health you get from the pickups or damage the enemies can deal or take.

As I stated in my first post : The developers choose these variables and attributes as what they find standard should be. As you said, balanced for most.

The more options in games, the better. Especially for server options. It can even make some servers have unique experiences than the default settings. Some may even try to make the game more difficult than brutal by modifying the settings. Or less of a grind or easier.

Yep. Exactly. As I said, your original phrasing was off, this response does not have the same issue.

[Xero]

It's up to the player to decide how they want to play their game or server.

[Exodite-Dragon]

Weirdly preachy post, OP, about something that seems like personal beef rather than an actual issue with the game.

[Thwartgorgon75]

Originally posted by Exodite-Dragon:

Weirdly preachy post, OP, about something that seems like personal beef rather than an actual issue with the game.

More of a PSA that options exist for new players. That being said, you trying to be funny? Because that was pretty aggressive.

[Yumeko]

the more clan members you have, the bigger the farming is.

[Thwartgorgon75]

Originally posted by Yumeko:

the more clan members you have, the bigger the farming is.

counter argument: Still need to build several sets for servants. So multiple players eases the grind overall.