Why is PvP not popular?

[ryan]

I don't understand why people aren't playing Merciless PvP in V-Rising. It's like cutting out half the content in the game. Alternatively you play with PvP on but with such limited raiding and looting, what's the point in playing a survival game at that point?

[homothug]

unfortunately the devs didnt overhaul pvp and add new core mechanics/balance so the game will completely die soon like it did last time, because people will cry and go to pve-only servers a week in only to realize the game has at best 2 weeks worth of content you repeat forever. pvp is the only true endgame angle for this but the community ditches it. look at rust, sure you can solo farm monuments on a private pve server, but theres a reason no one plays like that.

[Saucy Wiggles]

It's the second night of raids in 1.0 and I'm watching groups of 12 dudes who are level 80-90 slaughter everyone. Why bother?

[TheS1X]

They should really make servers were pvp area is only the last area.

[Mr. Fibble]

During early access the devs noticed the lack of interest in pvp and their response was to ask folk to please give it a go. Predictably that didn't seem to go anywhere but they steadfastly ignored the metrics and carried on with the pvp focus, fair play to them but doing that has hamstrung a pretty decent pve game.

The one thing they can't control is the players

[theworld]

Because it's insane time commitment. Even playing 8 hours a day is rookie numbers when you're playing PvP in this game.

Raiding is fun for a few days, but it does get old.

[snares]

I'd love to play PvP if it was balanced. Remove castle raiding, because it's pointless (let people just enjoy the stuff they have built), remove open world PvP (goodbye gankers and griefers). Have multiple 'Dungeon' entrances on the map - each set to a specific gear tier where only those with XX gear score can enter.
The dungeon is a large instanced area with free for all PvP and bosses (think Dark and Darker but MOBA style, Similar to Albion Online dungeons). Clans cannot enter as a team - only one person per clan may enter at a time (have a separate clan dungeon for team V team).
But as that kind of thing will never be in the game, i'll stick to solo play :D

[balmora pete]

I usually like PvP in games but this one I don't even want to try.

[The Time Traveler]

No one wants to play with you anymore. Why is this so hard to understand?

[R131]

Originally posted by ryan:

I don't understand why people aren't playing Merciless PvP in V-Rising. It's like cutting out half the content in the game. Alternatively you play with PvP on but with such limited raiding and looting, what's the point in playing a survival game at that point?

because the RNG on gruel and jewels is insane, its not competitive when you kill 3 96% servants in a row with gruel when everyone else is running about with 100%, same with the jewels and there being no way to charge them up to max stats some how, the RNG is so wide even if you do get lucky with 1 jewel of 1 type with all 3 stats that you need, it will probably only be half stats, and you are going to want several different setup so we're talking 10+ jewels, wouldnt be too bad if it was an MMO or something, but this isnt a persistent mega server.

RNG isnt a bad thing, infact it can make things interesting, but this insane amount of RNG overrules the competitive part of the game so its just not viable in that department. The game was much better on early access initial release, this gloomrot level of RNG trashed it.

Originally posted by Mr. Fibble:

During early access the devs noticed the lack of interest in pvp and their response was to ask folk to please give it a go. Predictably that didn't seem to go anywhere but they steadfastly ignored the metrics and carried on with the pvp focus, fair play to them but doing that has hamstrung a pretty decent pve game.

The one thing they can't control is the players

they must be deluded then because this isnt fit for PvP what so ever

[Fuji]

The biggest problem with the pvp is how the level differential can just cause higher level players to completely steamroll anyone else repeatedly. It's a very boring way to do it and imo the level should only count for PvE. I think in pvp the damage etc. should be equalized regardless of level, so in the end it's skewed to be more skill-based. There's nothing that can be done about ganking though unfortunately.
Also the castle raiding really should just be redone entirely. Castles demolishing due to inactivity is to free up space for other players to make bases so that's fine, but if they want raiding to exist I think the raid should just be to steal resources or something else valuable instead of just completely destroying someone's base.

[forumcrybaby]

Originally posted by Kaede:

PVP is for sweats and no lifes. Passssssssssssssssssssss

with that profile you have no business calling anyone a no life. Just make sure you make time to feed the cat in between drawing anime cat girls

[Mythical]

Originally posted by ryan:

I don't understand why people aren't playing Merciless PvP in V-Rising. It's like cutting out half the content in the game. Alternatively you play with PvP on but with such limited raiding and looting, what's the point in playing a survival game at that point?

Full loot/Full Loss PVP has generally not appealed to most users and most survival games that include it nearly always turn into "Alright, who's offline and can't fight back?" or "Alright, there's 5 of us, let's go find some solo player and stomp them while we circle jerk about what gods we are"

Most people don't want to deal with it. Being offline raided isn't fun, it isn't engaging and most adults don't have 40 hours to sink into a game in a week just to have their progress reset while they're not even around to fight back. There's simply too much time demanded by this game to justify the risk of PVP unless you have a dedicated group. How many times have you logged onto Ark, Rust or >Insert other similar survival game< as a solo player/small group to find everything you worked for gone? There's your answer for why people aren't playing.

Personally I prefer PVP, but I can absolutely see why many don't.

[Jason Eroge]

i feel like at the start the progression gets in the way of pvp and make people fear of lossing their hardwork stuff but than at end game they get bored to even pvp because theres nothing to gain...lol. the other problem for me is the map i guess it feels....too static? theres no like exploration. or hidden stash
idk maybe chat/names/castle names/ need to be hidden and lock or something the other problem is getting targetted by everybody lol
its always the same people fighting or ganging each other because they hate each other lol

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by ryan:

I don't understand why people aren't playing Merciless PvP in V-Rising. It's like cutting out half the content in the game. Alternatively you play with PvP on but with such limited raiding and looting, what's the point in playing a survival game at that point?

Because its not real content... Its the weakest saddest excuse for game content in the entire gaming industry. and it never works lol. It was cool back when only like few thousand of ADULTS did pvp. Now that any one can do online pvp from squeaker kid, to the old man who is super toxic as hell. Its not fun anymore.

Like I played those games they were alright at first then second the toxic peopel found out they can ruin peoples day by camping low levels it just kills the game community wich in turn kills the games player count. Like my pal use to be hard core like that its like dude I just saw you KOS a dude who was just starting out then take all his loot and delete you didn't even need it, you just being a ♥♥♥♥ on purpose.

Him "yeah that is the what makes it fun some one did it to me, now I do it to him, he have to get better or always be my ♥♥♥♥♥!" Its like and this is why no one wants to play this game and player count went from thousands to 200 and is on verge of losing even that...

[TheS1X]

It would be super cool if there is wilderness type area for pvp and where all the high value resources are. Also it should be difficult pve area.