Is there an actual endgame now....

[lemstryz]

Or is this game going to die again once people beat the story?

[[STG] Dante]

Originally posted by lemstryz:

Or is this game going to die again once people beat the story?

You are focusing on the wrong things and any servers staying alive lasting beyond just beating the game are going to be well maintained pvp servers.

[Suzaku]

Anyone remember when games were simply beaten and people enjoyed them instead of "dying"?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[Sythalin]

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Anyone remember when games were simply beaten and people enjoyed them instead of "dying"?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

This. The younger gamer generations' faux entitlement to games having endless content is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rampant these days. If a game doesn't have infinite content and/or get free DLC every 3 days, the game is "bad" and "should be cancelled".

Based on that logic, Super Mario Bros. (the original) is "dead", despite millions of people still playing it to this day.

[donut32]

it will die sooner, as the bosses are just overtuned bullet sponges.

and as far as pvp mode goes you know how that works. fresh wipe server and the no lifers seek them out like bloodhounds and by the time you log back in the next day to your sweet wooden fort you made at level 25 the no lifer crew already has all 3 shards and full legendaries and is camping the copper mine because they are "bored" and will raid you the second the raid window opens

lol

game is DOA until proc gen maps are out

[donut32]

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Anyone remember when games were simply beaten and people enjoyed them instead of "dying"?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

yeah i remember the original zelda being an online live service type game. does pepperidge farm remember that too

oh wait.

[Sythalin]

Originally posted by donut32:

I don't like the game as-is so I'm going to copy/paste the same thing over and over instead of doing something else I enjoy!

This ♥♥♥♥'s been copy/pasting the same "gIvE uS pRoC gEn" and grief ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on almost every thread because they had a bad experience once. Just ignore them.

[mimi]

pvp is endgame

[galacticcorgi]

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Anyone remember when games were simply beaten and people enjoyed them instead of "dying"?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

I do. I miss those days.

[foolexia]

Originally posted by galacticcorgi:

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Anyone remember when games were simply beaten and people enjoyed them instead of "dying"?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

I do. I miss those days.

I miss them too.

[lemstryz]

Originally posted by Sythalin:

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Anyone remember when games were simply beaten and people enjoyed them instead of "dying"?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

This. The younger gamer generations' faux entitlement to games having endless content is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ rampant these days. If a game doesn't have infinite content and/or get free DLC every 3 days, the game is "bad" and "should be cancelled".

Based on that logic, Super Mario Bros. (the original) is "dead", despite millions of people still playing it to this day.

If I was playing a single player game, then yeah I wouldn't give af the game died but this game is a survival game with online play including PVP. What other games are like that in this genre? Oh yeah, Rust and Ark Survival. Those games is still popping to this day after years since launch.

[lemstryz]

Originally posted by Technisches.KO:

pvp is endgame

Did they revamp pvp? Cause before full release, pvp was very lackluster and the game only had like 3k concurrent players

[Sythalin]

Originally posted by Technisches.KO:

pvp is endgame

Originally posted by lemstryz:

pvp was very lackluster and the game only had like 3k concurrent players

That's pretty much standard for PvP in most games that have base raiding. It usually goes something like this:

Originally posted by SuperPvPBro:

♥♥♥♥ YEAH!!! PvP!!!! EVERYONE CAN SUCK DEEZ NUTS!!! GONNA ♥♥♥♥ ALL YOU LOSERS UP, STEAL YOUR ♥♥♥♥, AND RAZE YOUR BASES TO THE GROUND WHILE YOU'RE OFFLINE!!!!

after 100 hrs of no-lifeing the game, cutting off every resource point, and griefing everyone until they leave "their" server that they honestly think they own

Originally posted by SuperPvPBro:

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY NO ONE PLAYS?!?! DEAD GAME. TRASH GAME. EVERYONE BUT ME SUXX!!!!

[Sifo Dyas]

It will die again despite being a fun game while it lasts, the tiny PvP population is not enough to keep the game alive, and no-one will want to continue to play casually as you have to login every five minutes to feed your castle heart or risk losing all your progress.

It's a difficult balance to be fair. The Devs best bet is some sort of procedural late game content and/or organised server/ clan wars even on PvE servers.

[CT-99 STRIKER]

Ruins of mortium events, get shards and stuff to get stuff. This ain't an MMO so don't expect an infinite loop at the end. PVE in a public server will keep you going for a long while or go pvp and your endgame reward is grief and everything undone.

[Sythalin]

Originally posted by Sifo Dyas:

It will die again despite being a fun game while it lasts, the tiny PvP population is not enough to keep the game alive, and no-one will want to continue to play casually as you have to login every five minutes to feed your castle heart or risk losing all your progress.

It isn't a live service game, so it's not going to "die". People will play through the available content (whether it's PvE or 'PvP til everyone else quits') and move on to another game. This has been the way of gaming since forever.

The fact that the younger generation of gamers equate "finishing a game" to being "dead and should be refunded" is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mindbogglingly asinine.