Tips for progression?

[&rew]

I've been playing this game co-op with a friend, and we're hitting some periodic roadblocks with getting further. I've played other survival crafting games like Factorio, but I'm not used to being lost as to what the next thing I need to do is. There are the missions at the top, and I can make slow progress against those. There are the V Blood hunts, and I've gone through everything up to level 27 or so. But now while I can complete the missions to upgrade the castle, they're very slow going.

Certain key upgrades are locked behind resources that I don't yet have the ability to produce myself. Like I needed stone dust in order to build a Grinder, which outputs stone dust. So I had to go to enemy camps and wait for it to drop. Fair enough, but it took a while to figure out where to get it. Now I'm at a point where my stone can only be processed so quickly, and I can't really pursue the next V Bloods because I don't have any better gear to craft (we tried taking on a level 30 boss while we're a few levels below 30, and we got wrecked). The rewards for the V Bloods don't seem to be recipes for better gear, and I'm not sure how to unlock them. I can't really upgrade my castle heart beyond level 2, because it requires resources like glass that I can't yet produce, and I don't see glass as drops from enemy camps when I go to look at the map.

So I think the loop is supposed to be 1. upgrade the base, 2. kill some stuff, 3. go back to base and repeat, but I'm struggling make progress in either front, and I'm not sure why the game keeps putting these barriers in front of progression without telling me how I'm supposed to get around them. Any tips that will keep us moving?

[Suzaku]

The main quest continues all the way up to the final boss, so sometimes the goal you are given is quite far away. Don't stress on completing it ASAP. You'll reach it as you progress at your own pace.

Just make sure your weapon, armor, and jewelry are at their best, including unlocking research tables and the upgrades they provide. If you keep your gear at the best you can make, then you should *mostly* always be above or equal to your next boss.

[Glyph]

Do your quests until you can't, then fight the bosses until you can't. If you fight the bosses from bottom to top in power order you will always have the capability to at least match them in gear score with the recipes you unlock on the way, though you will need to find the enhanced gear recipes out in the world for the last few of the tier.

[&rew]

Originally posted by theworld:

You need to research better gear.

From the research bench? There's nothing left to research on it. It's mostly empty boxes.

[Glyph]

Then you have much to research on it. There are 3 ways to get recipe books: find them as a random drop, make enough paper at the press to draw random tech, or buy them at a merchant.

[&rew]

Originally posted by theworld:

Bro, you trolling? You should upgrade your gear if research is done.

The best gear available to me at the work bench leaves me at about level 27. I've upgraded as far as it will let me. The research desk has basically nothing in it except for two things I already researched and crafted.

[&rew]

Originally posted by Glyph:

Then you have much to research on it. There are 3 ways to get recipe books: find them as a random drop, make enough paper at the press to draw random tech, or buy them at a merchant.

I think the paper press only just became available to me before I last logged off, but I haven't built it yet. Coins have been pretty hard to come by. So it's a bit of a grind for a little while to make research available by one of those means?

[Suzaku]

Originally posted by &rew:

Originally posted by theworld:

Bro, you trolling? You should upgrade your gear if research is done.

The best gear available to me at the work bench leaves me at about level 27. I've upgraded as far as it will let me. The research desk has basically nothing in it except for two things I already researched and crafted.

As you explore the game, you find books to research at the research table. You can also use paper to research random things that you don't already have. If you get books for things you've already researched, you can feed them to a Devourer to turn them into their base research materials.

There will be similar unlock progress later for Tier 2 and Tier 3 unlocks.

[&rew]

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Originally posted by &rew:

The best gear available to me at the work bench leaves me at about level 27. I've upgraded as far as it will let me. The research desk has basically nothing in it except for two things I already researched and crafted.

As you explore the game, you find books to research at the research table. You can also use paper to research random things that you don't already have. If you get books for things you've already researched, you can feed them to a Devourer to turn them into their base research materials.

There will be similar unlock progress later for Tier 2 and Tier 3 unlocks.

Thanks, I'll prioritize building the paper press and keep this in mind next time.

[ToeSama]

Originally posted by &rew:

So I think the loop is supposed to be 1. upgrade the base, 2. kill some stuff, 3. go back to base and repeat, but I'm struggling make progress in either front, and I'm not sure why the game keeps putting these barriers in front of progression without telling me how I'm supposed to get around them. Any tips that will keep us moving?

Slow down. Look at the basics again.

Lets take your need for Stone Dust to make Whetstone for a Grinder. But you don't need to make your own Whetstones. You can find them in some of the various bandit camps and strongholds in Farbane. Hit the Bandit Armor and Copper Mine, or a few encampments. You can find drops at other places ocassionally too. Looking at areas you've been to on the map tells you what you can find there regularly.

Your Research Table is a second point of progress, but it looks like others have already helped on that front.

V Rising is about maximizing time spent for profit earned. If you go out into the world to do something, you should do so with a plan. You might be stuck to one or two weapons at your highest grade for a bit, but so long as you match I-Level with the bosses, you should be able to progress, even if slowly. While you wait for whatever current thing you're cooking in your base to finish, go chop some trees and smash some rocks. Cut grass and plant seeds. Harvest flowers and restock your consumables. If you aren't doing something in the game, you should be. It all goes towards the same goal in the end.

[torqueblue]

Personally I'd avoid the paper press. You'll spend a lot more time gathering materials to make paper and more time gathering materials to turn paper to the next level of research. You can literally walk into buildings in the farmlands and steal paper and other materials that'll be much faster then gathering mats for paper and it's upgrades.

Not to mention you'll gather money, clothing material, spell jewels, seeds, and other stuff that'll save lots of time. If you doing your vampire duty and killing everything trying to kill you you'll wind up with more materials.

Also be a vandal and destroy crates, barrels, and other stuff. They drop material and stuff as well.

BUT, if you aren't interested doing the above and really wanna give the paper press a go, by all means go for it. You'll wanna get some farm plots going so you'll have flowers blooming so you'll have pollen and other stuff. Keep a look out for Workers with High Quality blood and remember where they are at so you can come back and capture them.

[Mercurial]

Paper Press is very useful for turning Scrolls into Schematics later. It's not so useful for paper or scrolls, mostly because copper and silver coin is a lot easier to collect than gold coin, and T3 books cost a lot more than T1/T2 books on top of that.

Early on, you should mostly be able to get by just farming enemy areas for resources you need and bosses, and using those coins to buy books for weapons/armor you need from the vendors.

At most, you might need 1 part natural play to 1 part farming for drops and chests.

[ledkit]

The game can be quite grindy, so be prepared for non-stop resource hunts

[Shift]

There's always something to do in between each V-Blood tier, be it researching on each of the 3 tiers of research stations, each unlocked at a point your old equipment won't hold up anymore. Also, there are some ingredients that drop down from camps, so you don't need to kill a boss much higher to unlock them. Use the in game map, hunt the resources needed if needed.