Stop trolling people who want advice

[FuNb0Y86]

Stop trolling people who think the game is unnecessarily grindy while on their own private, solo, PvE servers. Also please stop trolling those who advise those players on steps they can take to make the game more fun for them.

The troll mentality that everyone should just git gud is toxic, and it makes no sense considering the advice, most of the time, is for people playing alone.

There are quite a few posts talking about how hard the game is, or how long it takes to get things done. There are quite a few posts complaining about inventory management as well. All of those posts are valid conversation points, but flaming or trolling people just to deal with the dilemma doesn't help people. Being a troll only serves to diminish the community.

I understand that it can be annoying to read or listen to people with divergent opinions, but "git gud..." is not an opinion, it's a statement -- and an antagonistic statement at that.

Consider that some players need a relaxed experience for their real life health and well being. Also consider that some players want to play the game as intended, but at the moment are just having a hard time accessing a style that's unique and different to them. There is nothing wrong with relaxing the experience to learn the ropes. Some people just complain about it more than others, and that's fine. All it takes is some consideration for why they feel this way.

Some advice for would-be trolls: Consider asking why, instead of accusing people outright. You might find there's a good reason why people can't play at your level.

[Glyph]

No

[Skillo]

Thats the average mentality of the rust/conan/ark player, you can't cure the brainrot. These games are inherently toxic and vrising appeals to the same crowd

[Rager]

The community is trash, so what do you expect? lol

[Mikail]

You again, in why forum i told you you lying to new players when you did not played far than 1st location?

U good bro?

I told you reasons why you are wrong and you said nothing about that, instead go here and rant about troilling?

Tell me, where is this "grind".
Tell me why you saying new players it will take like 70h to complete game when im on 30h and im at the end with normal settings, tell me why should you disable teleport when you missing NPC with good blood and only hurting yourself by playing like that.

Tell me, who knows more, you with 20h and still in first location or me with 120h 30h in 1.0 and im at the end, who should help new players how to play this game.

[Alun1]

steam forums are notorious for lax moderation and trolls. also "git gud" posts are often removed and the poster gets warned.

this thread will only draw attention to you and most likely get trolled, unless that is your intention to jester farm.

[Mikail]

One more time.

Originally posted by FuNb0Y86:

Well, on default, the game is designed to be played with friends. The game is very grind heavy -- think Age of Conan, meets Diablo with Vampires.

Just like in AoC, you can customize your own private server, inflate material drop rates, damage to enemies, etc.

If you're looking for a standard 60 hour RPG, I would highly recommend tweaking the following settings:

-Material drop rate up 50%
-Stacks to 2 (for double stacks for time management)
-crafting speed increased by 50% at the very least

-No teleport restrictions (base game doesn't let you use vampire portals if you have any materials)
-damage per weapon increase by 50% (1.5 in other words because sponge enemies suck)
-Easy mode due to the fact that every boss is hard hitting on normal through hard for online play. If you think you can handle normal, then by all means have at it. I felt the player progression was a bit unbalanced for solo play, so easy feels more like a Diablo game to me. Bosses are still pretty hard if you make repeated mistakes even on easy.

So those are the things to keep in mind if you want a decently paced game. I have put in over 15 hours so far on a fresh playthrough, and I am barely through the first zone. It's built like a MMO btw, so the more crafting you have to put up with, the spongier the enemies, and the lower your damage done/taken, the longer you will play -- and the more grindy the experience will be.

You are wrong here, you did not played game like you said, stop calling us trolls when you are one who doing this, you will only hurt new players and you trying to scare them because you got your personal issues with game.
You dont have to speed your craft speed bcs in late game you got upgrades for speed, you got rooms for speed.

Just tell me where is that grind when you are talking about it everywhere and you are still in first location.

Normal setting are fine, there is no grind, you can travel with horse, you dont need disable teleports bcs you missing kinda big part of the game.

You dont need tweak your DMG cuz you got blood boosts, so with them its easy walk for you and you dont have to try.

Git gud, or dont lie about this game.

[Professor Goat]

bro, you can simply adjust settings to make it easier for you..

[FuNb0Y86]

Originally posted by Alun1:

steam forums are notorious for lax moderation and trolls. also "git gud" posts are often removed and the poster gets warned.

this thread will only draw attention to you and most likely get trolled, unless that is your intention to jester farm.

If this brings out the trolls, they'll get reported, so I'm not concerned about that.

The main idea is that the rest of the community help bolster it with positive behavior rather than egotism every time someone is struggling with the game and needs help. If someone suggests difficulty level or server tweaks, it's a valid suggestion -- the same as learning how to manage the content by default is.

The problem is people are already getting trolled for their threads complaining the game is either too difficult or too grindy. It isn't necessary to hate on these people because they don't understand the game, or they don't want to give it a chance. The advice given is positive feedback -- even if it's about changing game mechanics; furthermore, when someone trolls people who try and give that advice, they're attacking the people are trying to create a better community.

If all we have is trolls playing the game, then when people new to the genre play the game for the first time, post about how hard it is for them, then all they get is ridicule instead of help.

[harald]

don't...
feed...
the trolls....

[draoniaskies]

I'm playing on my own, and I'm really digging the standard settings. My only complaint is that i cant speed up servant missions, even in the server settings. I get they yield a lot of materials, but even being able to cut it in half would make it more fun, or speed it up with less loot. Otherwise, i play how i want.

[Khaylain]

Originally posted by draoniaskies:

I'm playing on my own, and I'm really digging the standard settings. My only complaint is that i cant speed up servant missions, even in the server settings. I get they yield a lot of materials, but even being able to cut it in half would make it more fun, or speed it up with less loot. Otherwise, i play how i want.

You can change how long they are away for with the slider in the mission menu...

[FuNb0Y86]

That's the idea really. There isn't really a right or wrong way to play games like this. I had a Conan Exiles server just for messing around. We threw parties, and rolled on a server that was very lax in all aspects.

I have two saves right now on this game contrary to someone who posted here.

I have a standard difficulty save, and a custom server just so I can experiment with the game and see what I can get away with. When I'm interested in the challenge, I'll play my standard save, but right now I really don't care except to sim the vampire life. I am truly enjoying myself with the game.

Edit: I was actually pretty ecstatic a developer even made a diablo-like game into a survival mechanic hack n slasher. I am really impressed how well the game play concepts fit together.

[Nihil]

Usually these forums are full with kids. And we know how cruel kids can be.

[Terminal Desolation]

Originally posted by Mikail:

One more time.

Originally posted by FuNb0Y86:

Well, on default, the game is designed to be played with friends. The game is very grind heavy -- think Age of Conan, meets Diablo with Vampires.

Just like in AoC, you can customize your own private server, inflate material drop rates, damage to enemies, etc.

If you're looking for a standard 60 hour RPG, I would highly recommend tweaking the following settings:

-Material drop rate up 50%
-Stacks to 2 (for double stacks for time management)
-crafting speed increased by 50% at the very least

-No teleport restrictions (base game doesn't let you use vampire portals if you have any materials)
-damage per weapon increase by 50% (1.5 in other words because sponge enemies suck)
-Easy mode due to the fact that every boss is hard hitting on normal through hard for online play. If you think you can handle normal, then by all means have at it. I felt the player progression was a bit unbalanced for solo play, so easy feels more like a Diablo game to me. Bosses are still pretty hard if you make repeated mistakes even on easy.

So those are the things to keep in mind if you want a decently paced game. I have put in over 15 hours so far on a fresh playthrough, and I am barely through the first zone. It's built like a MMO btw, so the more crafting you have to put up with, the spongier the enemies, and the lower your damage done/taken, the longer you will play -- and the more grindy the experience will be.

You are wrong here, you did not played game like you said, stop calling us trolls when you are one who doing this, you will only hurt new players and you trying to scare them because you got your personal issues with game.
You dont have to speed your craft speed bcs in late game you got upgrades for speed, you got rooms for speed.

Just tell me where is that grind when you are talking about it everywhere and you are still in first location.

Normal setting are fine, there is no grind, you can travel with horse, you dont need disable teleports bcs you missing kinda big part of the game.

You dont need tweak your DMG cuz you got blood boosts, so with them its easy walk for you and you dont have to try.

Git gud, or dont lie about this game.

bro is so mad someone dares to enjoy the game differently he pulled a post from a DIFFERENT THREAD to hate on OP

seek help, you should not get THIS MAD over someone else's opinion on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ video game

[Skillo]

Originally posted by Mikail:

One more time.

Originally posted by FuNb0Y86:

Well, on default, the game is designed to be played with friends. The game is very grind heavy -- think Age of Conan, meets Diablo with Vampires.

Just like in AoC, you can customize your own private server, inflate material drop rates, damage to enemies, etc.

If you're looking for a standard 60 hour RPG, I would highly recommend tweaking the following settings:

-Material drop rate up 50%
-Stacks to 2 (for double stacks for time management)
-crafting speed increased by 50% at the very least

-No teleport restrictions (base game doesn't let you use vampire portals if you have any materials)
-damage per weapon increase by 50% (1.5 in other words because sponge enemies suck)
-Easy mode due to the fact that every boss is hard hitting on normal through hard for online play. If you think you can handle normal, then by all means have at it. I felt the player progression was a bit unbalanced for solo play, so easy feels more like a Diablo game to me. Bosses are still pretty hard if you make repeated mistakes even on easy.

So those are the things to keep in mind if you want a decently paced game. I have put in over 15 hours so far on a fresh playthrough, and I am barely through the first zone. It's built like a MMO btw, so the more crafting you have to put up with, the spongier the enemies, and the lower your damage done/taken, the longer you will play -- and the more grindy the experience will be.

You are wrong here, you did not played game like you said, stop calling us trolls when you are one who doing this, you will only hurt new players and you trying to scare them because you got your personal issues with game.
You dont have to speed your craft speed bcs in late game you got upgrades for speed, you got rooms for speed.

Just tell me where is that grind when you are talking about it everywhere and you are still in first location.

Normal setting are fine, there is no grind, you can travel with horse, you dont need disable teleports bcs you missing kinda big part of the game.

You dont need tweak your DMG cuz you got blood boosts, so with them its easy walk for you and you dont have to try.

Git gud, or dont lie about this game.

the lack of self awareness is amusing
A lot of Vrising is balanced around multiplayer servers with pvp. The risk/reward balancing accounts for the threat of other players fighting you and taking your stuff.

The teleporters are the easiest example of this, you are unable to teleport with resources cause you are expected to move around with them and have the risk of meeting another hostile player. That threat does not exist on a private server (which was the topic of the person you quoted for playing "wrong"), so not being able to teleport with resources is just a waste of time in exchange of nothing.

The same can be said about resource acquisition rates and crafting speed. Basebuilding is a matter of managing your limited space to optimize base defense and efficiency, you could have 10 furnaces at full speed but that takes a lot of space. But if you don't, it takes more time to refine your resources and time is a valuable resource aswell, people will be at your door eventually and you have to be prepared.
Again, does not exist with private servers. Theres no one trying to raid you, theres no schedule, you do whathever you want. So its a waste of time.

the wonderful thing about sandbox settings is that it can be tailored to each person based on what they want from the game, and that mileage can vary wildly. Sometimes the default experience should be kept at least for the first playthrough, since people don't exactly know what they need until they experience it. But thats not the case with vrising, firstly because again, single player is not the main focus of the game and because the gameplay loops are easily identifiable early on.

This could extend much further when discussing things that don't apply for singleplayer but your ignorant replies tell me that not even this one will be productive, so i'll stop here.