Vampire Form

[WolfHound]

I hope there is future DLC that allows us to turn into an elder vampire. Like in Skyrim, with enhanced attributes and special abilities.

[Reeva!]

Idk if they made it a proper transformation, and it was good, everyone would use it, breaking the diversity and balance a fair bit. If it was worse than just being a regular vampire with configurable spells, no one would use it cuz it's just worse.

They'd need to make it weak enough so you don't need it, but decent enough to justify using, otherwise it'll just become like another potion to chug. Balancing this one is going to be weird.

[WolfHound]

Originally posted by Reeva!:

Idk if they made it a proper transformation, and it was good, everyone would use it, breaking the diversity and balance a fair bit. If it was worse than just being a regular vampire with configurable spells, no one would use it cuz it's just worse.

They'd need to make it weak enough so you don't need it, but decent enough to justify using, otherwise it'll just become like another potion to chug. Balancing this one is going to be weird.

Maybe it needs to be recharged or you have to farm enough of some special blood type to use it. Hell, it could just be an endgame reward. You only get it after you beat every boss, but then what would be the point of using it unless there was some form of new game +

Yea, it would be tough to balance in such a competitive game like this. It only worked in Skyrim because Skyrim is strictly single player and being a lesser vampire is a disadvantage.

Still, it just feels like the natural next step in vampire evolution. So I really do hope that it gets implemented.

[WolfHound]

The only other way that it could work, that I can think of, is having elder vampire forms with unique appearances that reflect character customisation. Like the Worgen race in World of Warcraft.

[Reeva!]

While back there was a poll for players to pick from 2 options.
First option was, pricier base game, no DLC.
Second option was, cheaper base game, cosmetic DLC only.

Playerbase picked the cheaper base game with cosmetic DLC. There won't be DLC that adds anything non-cosmetic.

[WolfHound]

Originally posted by Reeva!:

While back there was a poll for players to pick from 2 options.
First option was, pricier base game, no DLC.
Second option was, cheaper base game, cosmetic DLC only.

Playerbase picked the cheaper base game with cosmetic DLC. There won't be DLC that adds anything non-cosmetic.

Thats a shame, I was really starting to git gud at this game. Now it has no future?

[This PC]

Originally posted by WolfHound:

Originally posted by Reeva!:

While back there was a poll for players to pick from 2 options.
First option was, pricier base game, no DLC.
Second option was, cheaper base game, cosmetic DLC only.

Playerbase picked the cheaper base game with cosmetic DLC. There won't be DLC that adds anything non-cosmetic.

Thats a shame, I was really starting to git gud at this game. Now it has no future?

I do believe that they will pursue the model of releasing content update for free + matching paid cosmetic DLC with the update. Wouldn't be unheard of, Space Engineers follows a similar model.

[Army of Optimists]

Originally posted by WolfHound:

Originally posted by Reeva!:

While back there was a poll for players to pick from 2 options.
First option was, pricier base game, no DLC.
Second option was, cheaper base game, cosmetic DLC only.

Playerbase picked the cheaper base game with cosmetic DLC. There won't be DLC that adds anything non-cosmetic.

Thats a shame, I was really starting to git gud at this game. Now it has no future?

The game has at least two more Gloomrot-sized updates on the roadmap leading to launch. Post-launch support has yet to be discussed, I believe, but this is Stunlock's most successful game by far so I wouldn't rule it out.

[Caz]

Originally posted by Reeva!:

Idk if they made it a proper transformation, and it was good, everyone would use it, breaking the diversity and balance a fair bit. If it was worse than just being a regular vampire with configurable spells, no one would use it cuz it's just worse.

You mean like everyone using end game gear? Man, it would suck if everyone used the same armor.

Originally posted by Reeva!:

They'd need to make it weak enough so you don't need it, but decent enough to justify using, otherwise it'll just become like another potion to chug. Balancing this one is going to be weird.

So make it useless. Glad you're not on the design team.

[Boiledteabag]

Originally posted by WolfHound:

Originally posted by Reeva!:

While back there was a poll for players to pick from 2 options.
First option was, pricier base game, no DLC.
Second option was, cheaper base game, cosmetic DLC only.

Playerbase picked the cheaper base game with cosmetic DLC. There won't be DLC that adds anything non-cosmetic.

Thats a shame, I was really starting to git gud at this game. Now it has no future?

You don't get it do you, they rigged it.
They knew people would want a cheaper game, so they could make cosmetic dlc to get more money.

I personally have all the dlc, and dlc means more money for the dev crew.
More money means more resources etc.
If you don't plan on buying the dlc then.... don't? also kudos you got the game for cheaper due to community decision. Just because they made the bar of entry cheaper doesn't mean they have less resources, if anything it would of resulted in more sales due to it being more accessible to more people.

[Reeva!]

Originally posted by WolfHound:

Originally posted by Reeva!:

While back there was a poll for players to pick from 2 options.
First option was, pricier base game, no DLC.
Second option was, cheaper base game, cosmetic DLC only.

Playerbase picked the cheaper base game with cosmetic DLC. There won't be DLC that adds anything non-cosmetic.

Thats a shame, I was really starting to git gud at this game. Now it has no future?

Not quite. P2W or paying for features locked behind paywalls is how some games fall. People do not enjoy P2W schemes. If you're referring to DLCs that add more content to the maps, Gloomrot released as part of the basegame, no extra cost attached, I imagine other areas that are to be added in future will follow this method.

Game very much has a future, but them making the basegame cheaper does mean development will slow if people do not buy the DLC, as opposed to a pricier basegame with no DLC; the extra money would not be needed if people paid more simply to play the game. From what I've seen here, people are into the idea of the DLC, a lot of them treat it as a donation to the developers due to the poll. A way of thanks for allowing players to make decisions that impact their income.

[WolfHound]

Originally posted by HammyBread:

Originally posted by WolfHound:

Thats a shame, I was really starting to git gud at this game. Now it has no future?

You don't get it do you, they rigged it.
They knew people would want a cheaper game, so they could make cosmetic dlc to get more money.

I personally have all the dlc, and dlc means more money for the dev crew.
More money means more resources etc.
If you don't plan on buying the dlc then.... don't? also kudos you got the game for cheaper due to community decision. Just because they made the bar of entry cheaper doesn't mean they have less resources, if anything it would of resulted in more sales due to it being more accessible to more people.

I do get it, what you don't get is that you should have saved your response for Reeva!, not me. I was only bouncing off him/her.

[Nilvus The Pure]

I could see it working as an endgame ability like the bat form.

PVP is fundamentally unbalanced due to gear levels and unlocks so I don’t see much reason balancing the game around it.

Ideally I’d make it a timed ability that needs to be recharged. Like a hail mary for when you’re in deep trouble.

[Army of Optimists]

Originally posted by humtumtum in chinatawuuuuuun:

Ideally I’d make it a timed ability that needs to be recharged. Like a hail mary for when you’re in deep trouble.

That just sounds like an ultimate skill. Which I could see. 10-15s transformation that gives a new skillset. Probably not what the OP really wants, though.