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Today I learned that my corpse disappears after a few in-game days
Got my ass handed to me yet again by the bandit king (I suck at targeting), so decided to build a small base next to his camp. It took me about 3 in-game days to do so, and I was all ready to run back, grab my corpse, and try again for the 10th? 15th? time.

Imagine my surprise (and rage) when I realized that my fallen body had disappeared, taking all my hard-earned loot with it. Granted, this was still act 1 loot and I can always earn it back but it took me quite a while to get it in the first place. To say I'm angry is a vast understatement. I don't remember this being a thing back in beta.

Please tell me this is a bug. I'm already about to uninstall over the Bandit King, and now this. The game isn't fun for me anymore (or for my husband who gets to hear the stream of profanities), and I HATE that key progression items are locked behind mobs. I can farm iron but it's useless until I go fight this boss and die AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. And then I lose everything that I was carrying because I took some time to prepare better???

Also, I play on a PVE server that's password protected with player count set to one (I'm paranoid) so it's not like someone else could have just popped on and looted my body.
Last edited by silverwoodcreations; May 22, 2023 @ 5:25pm
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Shazza May 22, 2023 @ 5:30pm 
..So, rather than dash in to grab your loot and run out, you decided the best course of action was to spend a ridiculous amount of time building a base?

And you're surprised you were punished for doing this?

Bruh.

Of course it's not a bug. Disappearing loot is a mainstay feature in virtually every survival game ever; it's to actually give death some consequence if you fluff about for too long. You can't blame the devs for you making a false assumption of how the deathloot system works.

ETA: If you're genuinely still having difficulties beating Quincy (suggestion: Chaos Dash + Chaos Volley + Spirit Barrier), there are guides floating around on how to tweak your server settings on an existing game (read: difficulty by increasing your personal damage output).
Last edited by Shazza; May 22, 2023 @ 5:32pm
Originally posted by Shazzamon:
..So, rather than dash in to grab your loot and run out, you decided the best course of action was to spend a ridiculous amount of time building a base?

And you're surprised you were punished for doing this?

Bruh.

Of course it's not a bug. Disappearing loot is a mainstay feature in virtually every survival game ever; it's to actually give death some consequence if you fluff about for too long. You can't blame the devs for you making a false assumption of how the deathloot system works.

ETA: If you're genuinely still having difficulties beating Quincy (suggestion: Chaos Dash + Chaos Volley + Spirit Barrier), there are guides floating around on how to tweak your server settings on an existing game (read: difficulty by increasing your personal damage output).

I didn't think 3 in-game days was that much time. Also, it's not a simple thing to run all the way to Quincy's camp, get past all those mobs (damn deadeyes) and get my body back. Trust me, I've been doing this for a couple nights now which is why I wanted to be a bit more prepared first.

Also, I must not play enough survival games. I don't recall dealing with this in Valheim or Ark. I've also been playing V Rising since beta and never had this happen before, which is why I was quite gobsmacked by it.

And yes, I've watched multiple videos and read several game guides on Quincy. I know my biggest issue is positioning and targeting. I can't aim worth a damn, which is why I don't PvP. :P Still wasn't expecting my corpse to decay that rapidly (I did check the forums first too to see if anyone else ran into this, but didn't see a post about it).
Last edited by silverwoodcreations; May 22, 2023 @ 5:47pm
Shazza May 22, 2023 @ 5:48pm 
Originally posted by silverwoodcreations:
I didn't think 3 in-game days was that much time. Also, it's not a simple thing to run all the way to Quincy's camp, get past all those mobs (damn deadeyes) and get my body back. Trust me, I've been doing this for a couple nights now which is why I wanted to be a bit more prepared first.

Also, I must not play enough survival games. I don't recall dealing with this in Valheim or Ark. I've also been playing V Rising since beta and never had this happen before, which is why I was quite gobsmacked by it.

And yes, I've watched multiple videos and game guides on Quincy. I know my biggest issue is positioning and targeting. I can't aim worth a damn, which is why I don't PvP. :P Still wasn't expecting my corpse to decay that rapidly (I did check the forums first too to see if anyone else ran into this, but didn't see a post about it).
3 in-game days is (at default settings) just under a whole hour, because a day is 18 minutes. Valheim is one of the sole exceptions to the rule, to which it doesn't have a despawn timer at all, but ARK very much has a timer.

Here's a few examples of survival games with death loot timers:

Minecraft: 5 minutes
ARK Survival Evolved: 20 minutes
Grounded: 30 minutes
RUST: 30 minutes
Conan Exiles: 20 minutes (seems to depend on the server)

V Rising has had the death loot timer since day one, I can attest to that personally. It may have decreased since EA launched and wasn't documented, but by a 2022 count it was 45 minutes.
V rising has a 45 minute death timer on your grave as Shazzamon stated if you look on the map after you die you can see the marker with the time remaining until it despawns.

It sucks that you lost your stuff, but what might help next time when you go get your loot the wolf form as a 2 charge leap that give you invulnerability during it that should help avoid the dead eyes and other mobs

Best of luck you you getting revenge on Quincy mate, i remember when i first tried fighting him i died like 8-9 times to him. the Ward of the dammned has personally has helped me in fighting him making skeletons that pull aggro.
ARiMA May 22, 2023 @ 5:59pm 
You are getting frustrated because I am guessing you may not have upgraded your weapons and outfit. Quincy shouldn't be an issue if you have a merciless copper weapon and a ranged magic attack boosted by an enchanted ring with a decent blood percentage. If you don't have the recipe for a merciless copper weapon, then pay a visit to the shady dealer with some copper coins.

Heck, you don't even need an upgraded copper weapon, just get a strong percentage of blood and just run circles around Quincy, use Veil of Chaos when he dashes. Next time you die, just take the wolf form and grab your stuff quickly, a quick in and out. Don't engage in any combat just use Veil of Chaos to get away.
WaterMelwin May 22, 2023 @ 6:02pm 
you could have just gotten 10x the loot doing whatever you did for the loot you died with lol
Originally posted by Shazzamon:
3 in-game days is (at default settings) just under a whole hour, because a day is 18 minutes. Valheim is one of the sole exceptions to the rule, to which it doesn't have a despawn timer at all, but ARK very much has a timer.

Here's a few examples of survival games with death loot timers:

Minecraft: 5 minutes
ARK Survival Evolved: 20 minutes
Grounded: 30 minutes
RUST: 30 minutes
Conan Exiles: 20 minutes (seems to depend on the server)

V Rising has had the death loot timer since day one, I can attest to that personally. It may have decreased since EA launched and wasn't documented, but by a 2022 count it was 45 minutes.

Oof. Good to know then. Also good to know that I don't want to wishlist those other games either (I was considering buying a few of them).
Originally posted by ARiMA:
You are getting frustrated because I am guessing you may not have upgraded your weapons and outfit. Quincy shouldn't be an issue if you have a merciless copper weapon and a ranged magic attack boosted by an enchanted ring with a decent blood percentage. If you don't have the recipe for a merciless copper weapon, then pay a visit to the shady dealer with some copper coins.

Heck, you don't even need an upgraded copper weapon, just get a strong percentage of blood and just run circles around Quincy, use Veil of Chaos when he dashes. Next time you die, just take the wolf form and grab your stuff quickly, a quick in and out. Don't engage in any combat just use Veil of Chaos to get away.

All merciless gear w/ dayrunner ring (for mobility). Was using a merciless sword but upgraded to a merciless spear. Spear worked a LOT better. Spells were Veil of Chaos, Frost Bat, and Chaos Volley (which really didn't matter because I kept forgetting to use them - I'm still not used to the R and C buttons for fighting).

Also used the spear to take down the bear and rat boss while waiting for castle mats.

I ALWAYS use wolf form when travelling a distance, because it's convenient and fast. Got and have been using veil of chaos these last two nights with a gem to modify its duration. Still doesn't make the run to the boss easy, even with rat form for sneaking in, which is why I wanted to build a base closer.

The last time I battled Quincy I had 74% rouge blood. Got him down to the last 25% of his health so I felt I had a chance if I prepared a bit more. And then lost my corpse and all the loots on it. Also broke most of my equipped gear, which only added to the frustration.
Jimmy the Crow May 22, 2023 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by silverwoodcreations:
Originally posted by Shazzamon:
..So, rather than dash in to grab your loot and run out, you decided the best course of action was to spend a ridiculous amount of time building a base?

And you're surprised you were punished for doing this?

Bruh.

Of course it's not a bug. Disappearing loot is a mainstay feature in virtually every survival game ever; it's to actually give death some consequence if you fluff about for too long. You can't blame the devs for you making a false assumption of how the deathloot system works.

ETA: If you're genuinely still having difficulties beating Quincy (suggestion: Chaos Dash + Chaos Volley + Spirit Barrier), there are guides floating around on how to tweak your server settings on an existing game (read: difficulty by increasing your personal damage output).

I didn't think 3 in-game days was that much time. Also, it's not a simple thing to run all the way to Quincy's camp, get past all those mobs (damn deadeyes) and get my body back. Trust me, I've been doing this for a couple nights now which is why I wanted to be a bit more prepared first.

Also, I must not play enough survival games. I don't recall dealing with this in Valheim or Ark. I've also been playing V Rising since beta and never had this happen before, which is why I was quite gobsmacked by it.

And yes, I've watched multiple videos and read several game guides on Quincy. I know my biggest issue is positioning and targeting. I can't aim worth a damn, which is why I don't PvP. :P Still wasn't expecting my corpse to decay that rapidly (I did check the forums first too to see if anyone else ran into this, but didn't see a post about it).
3 days time is over an hour. All survival games have a timer. Ark is 30 mins. Rust is 30 mins. So, by that, you should aim for less than 30 minutes. Your main priority after dying with loot is to get back to it as fast as possible. Either itll disappear and if im in the neck of the woods ill take it.
ARiMA May 22, 2023 @ 6:43pm 
Originally posted by silverwoodcreations:
All merciless gear w/ dayrunner ring (for mobility). Was using a merciless sword but upgraded to a merciless spear. Spear worked a LOT better. Spells were Veil of Chaos, Frost Bat, and Chaos Volley (which really didn't matter because I kept forgetting to use them - I'm still not used to the R and C buttons for fighting).

Also used the spear to take down the bear and rat boss while waiting for castle mats.

I ALWAYS use wolf form when travelling a distance, because it's convenient and fast. Got and have been using veil of chaos these last two nights with a gem to modify its duration. Still doesn't make the run to the boss easy, even with rat form for sneaking in, which is why I wanted to build a base closer.

The last time I battled Quincy I had 74% rouge blood. Got him down to the last 25% of his health so I felt I had a chance if I prepared a bit more. And then lost my corpse and all the loots on it. Also broke most of my equipped gear, which only added to the frustration.

Well am lost then. All I had was a common Copper Spear with Veil of Chaos and Aftershock to take on Quincy. I fought him exactly how I fought the Putrid Rat. I did have jewels to empower my Aftershock and Veil of Chaos though. I just kept going in circles and stayed out of his attack and used Aftershock like a ranged weapon. When Quincy got groggy after a failed dash, I just used the special attack with my spear or replenished my health. Nothing special.
Originally posted by Someone Suspicious:
V rising has a 45 minute death timer on your grave as Shazzamon stated if you look on the map after you die you can see the marker with the time remaining until it despawns.

It sucks that you lost your stuff, but what might help next time when you go get your loot the wolf form as a 2 charge leap that give you invulnerability during it that should help avoid the dead eyes and other mobs

Best of luck you you getting revenge on Quincy mate, i remember when i first tried fighting him i died like 8-9 times to him. the Ward of the dammned has personally has helped me in fighting him making skeletons that pull aggro.

Didn't know about the timer. Just used the marker to help me go in the right direction but didn't even think to look for a countdown.

Thanks for the encouragement. I might try getting Ward of the Damned the next time I feel up to playing again. Right now, it can all rot away again IMHO. I may even just delete the character and start fresh whenever next time rolls around. For now, I have Roots of Pacha to calm my roll, and if I feel like survival adventure I'll just patch and fire up Valheim. They're almost finished with their roadmap.

Hopefully this post helps others out who may be experiencing the same frustrations.
CamGG May 22, 2023 @ 6:48pm 
One of the most simple bosses in the game, and you decided to build a base rather than picking up your loot... Sorry man, pure skill issue.
Originally posted by ARiMA:

Well am lost then. All I had was a common Copper Spear with Veil of Chaos and Aftershock to take on Quincy. I fought him exactly how I fought the Putrid Rat. I did have jewels to empower my Aftershock and Veil of Chaos though. I just kept going in circles and stayed out of his attack and used Aftershock like a ranged weapon. When Quincy got groggy after a failed dash, I just used the special attack with my spear or replenished my health. Nothing special.

Oh, it all boils down to two things. 1. I'm not used to using R and C and having to constantly move while turning and facing the mob, and 2. I SUCK at aiming and turning to face the mob while constantly moving. I'm from the Diablo 3 and FFXIV camp where you lock onto your target and don't have to worry about aiming so much. It's a bit of a harsh learning curve for me. :P
ARiMA May 22, 2023 @ 7:02pm 
Originally posted by silverwoodcreations:
Oh, it all boils down to two things. 1. I'm not used to using R and C and having to constantly move while turning and facing the mob, and 2. I SUCK at aiming and turning to face the mob while constantly moving. I'm from the Diablo 3 and FFXIV camp where you lock onto your target and don't have to worry about aiming so much. It's a bit of a harsh learning curve for me. :P

Oh I get it. The camera was a problem for me too, having to constantly press the Right Mouse button was/is very annoying. For the attacks, I just reassigned my keys so that the E and R are assigned to spells so that I don't have to stretch for C, as for secondary melee attack I assigned it to Left Shift key.

Anyway, if you are not having fun, just stop and give it a few days, you might just be relaxed enough to beat Quincy. I reckon, after you beat Quincy, you are just going to feel a bit disappointed for all the frustration he caused and move on.
Last edited by ARiMA; May 22, 2023 @ 7:02pm
Originally posted by ARiMA:
Oh I get it. The camera was a problem for me too, having to constantly press the Right Mouse button was/is very annoying. For the attacks, I just reassigned my keys so that the E and R are assigned to spells so that I don't have to stretch for C, as for secondary melee attack I assigned it to Left Shift key.

Anyway, if you are not having fun, just stop and give it a few days, you might just be relaxed enough to beat Quincy. I reckon, after you beat Quincy, you are just going to feel a bit disappointed for all the frustration he caused and move on.

Thank you! I spent a good bit of time last night looking for how folks re-assigned their keys in order to make the fights easier, but couldn't find anything helpful. I might try this when I feel up to giving it a go again.

What key do you use for jumping down cliffs then? The default is shift, and using the left shift is so cumbersome (I keep hitting capslock).
Last edited by silverwoodcreations; May 22, 2023 @ 7:16pm
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