¿What do they mean by 'reset' the servers with the next major update?

[Alundor]

Are we going to lose everything we have worked so hard to obtain? Materials, Buildings, the character with all the unlocked powers & crafting knowledge? Tell me this is a bad joke :S

[Valion]

Originally posted by AmericanTeenageGirl:

Originally posted by Valion:

so what about PVE servers?

an extreme minority and not the intended audience.

good to know you throw people to the side just because they are not the majority

[Hank Hilldiver]

Skill issue

[Boiledteabag]

Originally posted by Valion:

Originally posted by AmericanTeenageGirl:

an extreme minority and not the intended audience.

good to know you throw people to the side just because they are not the majority

go into the game right now and tell me people play on pve servers...

you pve andies are all offline or private, and you want the devs to care about your precious pve experience when YOU DONT EVEN FILL PVE SERVERS.

As of this post:
Searched by player count, any latency, any clan size, show also merciless settings included;

Best pve server pop counts: 11/40 and 12/40
best pvp server pop counts: 27/40, 27/50 and 19/35 etc
pvp servers are way more filled then pve servers right now.

Also as of this post there are 2127(not counting pirated copies of course) people playing the game, IF YOU CARE ABOUT PVE SO MUCH WHY AREN'T YOU BOZO'S FILLING THE PVE SERVERS.

If you want the devs to give a rats ass about pve changes then actually come and fill the servers or start your own public ones.
The devs only gave you a convoluted offline method because you cried like babies for it, they basically shoved you into the cellar and threw away the key. Deal with it.

Like if you actually think about it, pve players are actually the majority as pvp players get bored easy with no updates or changes applied to the game, you pve players just spit your dummys out and cried until you were given a roundabout offline method and just abandoned the game.

You pve players not using the server space given to you is your downfall, ask yourself this if you were a dev and people said "I ONLY do pve and I want OFFLINE NOW DEVS GIVE IT NOW WHY NO OFFLINE" and then the devs say "do x, y and z and you are offline play now, have fun" do you really think you are in a position to demand anything when you willingly jump into the solo/offline cellar and refuse to come out when the devs aim is to make a ONLINE SERVER game with PVP balancing?

So maybe instead of complaining actually get to filling those pve servers with players that the devs PAY MONEY FOR
Think about it this way: If you open a huge public pool and pay rent, utilities etc to keep it running but only like max 10 - 12 people are in it and it never goes above that, you'd be running at a loss right because all that space is not being filled and you are paying money to maintain the entire thing.

So why should the devs care about pve players complaining when they don't even use the gameplay space provided that they pay for you to enjoy in.

[Soren]

Originally posted by HammyBread:

you pve andies are all offline or private, and you want the devs to care about your precious pve experience when YOU DONT EVEN FILL PVE SERVERS.

But if you count private and offline experiences, PVE is the majority by in far.

Originally posted by HammyBread:

Also as of this post there are 2127(not counting pirated copies of course) people playing the game, IF YOU CARE ABOUT PVE SO MUCH WHY AREN'T YOU BOZO'S FILLING THE PVE SERVERS.

The answer is quite simple. You lack control when you put your progress on an external server.

Here are some disadvantages to playing on a PVE server instead hosting your own private session.

- You don't have admin privilleges and other players could possibly effect your experience in negative ways even in PVE servers. This can include other players build blocking your base or taking resources you want.
- You have to pay a blood tribute as upkeep to your castle while you're offline. So if you're gone for a month your progress can be deleted.
- You don't own your save file and your progress can be wiped at any time. Did the server go inactive? If so be prepared to gamble that the host doesn't wipe it or take the whole thing offline.
- Playing online requires decent internet. Your experience now has a ping if you take your experience online, possibly even a large one tied too it when you could have had a 0 ping experience just by playing solo
- You want to solo all the bosses and don't want other players carrying you through any of the content.

[Valion]

Originally posted by HammyBread:

Originally posted by Valion:

good to know you throw people to the side just because they are not the majority

go into the game right now and tell me people play on pve servers...

you pve andies are all offline or private, and you want the devs to care about your precious pve experience when YOU DONT EVEN FILL PVE SERVERS.

As of this post:
Searched by player count, any latency, any clan size, show also merciless settings included;

Best pve server pop counts: 11/40 and 12/40
best pvp server pop counts: 27/40, 27/50 and 19/35 etc
pvp servers are way more filled then pve servers right now.

Also as of this post there are 2127(not counting pirated copies of course) people playing the game, IF YOU CARE ABOUT PVE SO MUCH WHY AREN'T YOU BOZO'S FILLING THE PVE SERVERS.

If you want the devs to give a rats ass about pve changes then actually come and fill the servers or start your own public ones.
The devs only gave you a convoluted offline method because you cried like babies for it, they basically shoved you into the cellar and threw away the key. Deal with it.

Like if you actually think about it, pve players are actually the majority as pvp players get bored easy with no updates or changes applied to the game, you pve players just spit your dummys out and cried until you were given a roundabout offline method and just abandoned the game.

You pve players not using the server space given to you is your downfall, ask yourself this if you were a dev and people said "I ONLY do pve and I want OFFLINE NOW DEVS GIVE IT NOW WHY NO OFFLINE" and then the devs say "do x, y and z and you are offline play now, have fun" do you really think you are in a position to demand anything when you willingly jump into the solo/offline cellar and refuse to come out when the devs aim is to make a ONLINE SERVER game with PVP balancing?

So maybe instead of complaining actually get to filling those pve servers with players that the devs PAY MONEY FOR
Think about it this way: If you open a huge public pool and pay rent, utilities etc to keep it running but only like max 10 - 12 people are in it and it never goes above that, you'd be running at a loss right because all that space is not being filled and you are paying money to maintain the entire thing.

So why should the devs care about pve players complaining when they don't even use the gameplay space provided that they pay for you to enjoy in.

dear god you call me whiny but you wrote all that?, fun fact i AM on a official server come by [AU] Official #7018, we have about 10 regulars and regular migrations of about 20 none regulars since the Halloween drop, lots of fun about six of us are built up around the Colosseum while the other big four are hanging out in the Silverlight Hills, lots of space if you want to do something other then sweat over beating someone else for like 20 seconds

[Boiledteabag]

Originally posted by Soren:

Originally posted by HammyBread:

you pve andies are all offline or private, and you want the devs to care about your precious pve experience when YOU DONT EVEN FILL PVE SERVERS.

But if you count private and offline experiences, PVE is the majority by in far.

Originally posted by HammyBread:

Also as of this post there are 2127(not counting pirated copies of course) people playing the game, IF YOU CARE ABOUT PVE SO MUCH WHY AREN'T YOU BOZO'S FILLING THE PVE SERVERS.

The answer is quite simple. You lack control when you put your progress on an external server.

Here are some disadvantages to playing on a PVE server instead hosting your own private session.

- You don't have admin privilleges and other players could possibly effect your experience in negative ways even in PVE servers. This can include other players build blocking your base or taking resources you want.
- You have to pay a blood tribute as upkeep to your castle while you're offline. So if you're gone for a month your progress can be deleted.
- You don't own your save file and your progress can be wiped at any time. Did the server go inactive? If so be prepared to gamble that the host doesn't wipe it or take the whole thing offline.
- Playing online requires decent internet. Your experience now has a ping if you take your experience online, possibly even a large one tied too it when you could have had a 0 ping experience just by playing solo
- You want to solo all the bosses and don't want other players carrying you through any of the content.

Then get off the game?
The devs want to make an on server experience, not solo. Sorry to say but this might not be your game.

[Boiledteabag]

Just saying, if people care about the devs making pve balancing, maybe they should use the servers they rent for you to play on, you know the things they rent using real money.

Any player on private or offline is basically invisible to the devs as the pve servers are pretty much empty so those pve servers are a dead investment and you wonder why they don't care about you.

[Soren]

Originally posted by HammyBread:

Then get off the game?

I mostly played online on PVP servers back when I used to play. I'm simply arguing specific points and how much merit those points have.

Originally posted by HammyBread:

The devs want to make an on server experience, not solo. Sorry to say but this might not be your game.

This isn't exactly a zero sum game. The devs do indeed want to make an online server experience, but they also want to offer alternatives to that experience for those who want them. Hence why private and offline server experiences are possible.

And they are financially incentivised to do so because that generates more sales when you offer more ways to play your game.

[Balsin]

why do pve players keep buying pvp survival games and then get confused when they are ignored?
Ignoring the doubtful claim you are in the majority this happens in every pvp game.

[Boiledteabag]

Originally posted by AmericanTeenageGirl:

why do pve players keep buying pvp survival games and then get confused when they are ignored?
Ignoring the doubtful claim you are in the majority this happens in every pvp game.

Someone with common sense, thank you.

[Dribs]

For people who claim that it's not necessary to wipe all servers when such a big update is done to the game, you don't understand game developing. The potential bugs that could arise from not wiping servers when updating them, is quite enormous, and probably inevitable.

In addition to that, they are making quite extensive changes to the whole base building system, which means that every castle that exist in the game doesnt use the new, and quite different base building mechanic.

Thats only mentioning one issue that definitely will introduce bugs or not wanted "situations".

When the new update rolls out, all servers will be wiped. Even your local single player game.

But don't worry. Starting fresh allows you to play the game again. It's where the fun is.

[Boiledteabag]

Not to mention you can get stone castle in less then an hour if you really try.

[DaWeezerd]

Originally posted by Alundor:

Are we going to lose everything we have worked so hard to obtain? Materials, Buildings, the character with all the unlocked powers & crafting knowledge? Tell me this is a bad joke :S

That's exactly what will happen.

[Balsin]

Originally posted by DaWeezerd:

Originally posted by Alundor:

Are we going to lose everything we have worked so hard to obtain? Materials, Buildings, the character with all the unlocked powers & crafting knowledge? Tell me this is a bad joke :S

That's exactly what will happen.

It's worth it for a pvp experience that isn't terrible. Multiple floors is just a big bonus.
Can get to end game is like a day or two anyway.

[Smug Kot]

Originally posted by AmericanTeenageGirl:

why do pve players keep buying pvp survival games and then get confused when they are ignored?
Ignoring the doubtful claim you are in the majority this happens in every pvp game.

they start bashing everyone... like dude, they need to do some research before buying something for ♥♥♥♥ sake.